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post Oct 21, 2010 - 9:20 AM
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was looking to get some 25mm bolt on hubcentric wheel spacers from ebay, looked at a couple of different brands, dont really want to be cheap but i have not read too many bad things about them, what bad i did read about them was from retarded people installing them.... so thoughts?


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post Oct 21, 2010 - 5:43 PM
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I'd also like info on this.. looking to get the adaptors to allow bolting my lexus rims that are 5x115 on my v6 swap...


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post Oct 21, 2010 - 6:09 PM
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In my experiance with spacers....
If you get the spacers that DONT already include the wheel bolts than you should be okay with just extended studs on the hub... the spacers WITH wheel studs built in i wouldn't trust!

Spacers are mainly all the same just make sure you dont go too thick, cause the hubs/bearing take a beating! especially if you're slammed!



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QUOTE (sphinxxx @ Oct 21, 2010 - 7:09 PM) *
In my experiance with spacers....
If you get the spacers that DONT already include the wheel bolts than you should be okay with just extended studs on the hub... the spacers WITH wheel studs built in i wouldn't trust!

Spacers are mainly all the same just make sure you dont go too thick, cause the hubs/bearing take a beating! especially if you're slammed!



first, spacer that include the studs and the ones that use extended studs can be both safe if you get the right ones

second, not all spacers are the same

the key word when buying spacers is HUBCENTRIC

your spacer selection should go like this

1- how thick you need it ?
2- do you need bolt pattern conversion
3- MAKE sure they are hubcentric and designed for your specific car

you should stay away from ANY universal spacer, spacers should be made for an specific application, like for example, a spacer made for the celica will not fit a Dodge neon even when both cars have the same bolt pattern, the hub is different.

the spacers with studs already on them are mainly used for bolt pattern conversion or very thick spacers where extended studs are not available ( 1 inch or more )
you can get extended studs for up to 20 mm spacers, and this should be your first option, but not because the ones with studs are not safe, but because the less nuts you have to torque down, the less likely you are to leave one loose or not torqued to spec.




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QUOTE (sphinxxx @ Oct 21, 2010 - 4:09 PM) *
In my experiance with spacers....
If you get the spacers that DONT already include the wheel bolts than you should be okay with just extended studs on the hub... the spacers WITH wheel studs built in i wouldn't trust!

Spacers are mainly all the same just make sure you dont go too thick, cause the hubs/bearing take a beating! especially if you're slammed!


The OP def doesn't have to worry about that.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Oct 21, 2010 - 7:06 PM
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to the OP, if the spacer is hub centric ( 54.1 center bore ) and is made by some reputable company. just make sure they are truly hubcentric and not just saying they are.




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first, spacer that include the studs and the ones that use extended studs can be both safe if you get the right ones

second, not all spacers are the same

the key word when buying spacers is HUBCENTRIC yes your right about this! VERY IMPORTANT!

your spacer selection should go like this

1- how thick you need it ? IMO if you have to use more than 20mm spacers, you`re better off just getting lower offset rims!
2- do you need bolt pattern conversion why would you! 5x100 rules! we can rock all types of subaru rims!!
3- MAKE sure they are hubcentric and designed for your specific car YES MAKE SURE!!

you should stay away from ANY universal spacer, spacers should be made for an specific application, like for example, a spacer made for the celica will not fit a Dodge neon even when both cars have the same bolt pattern, the hub is different.

the spacers with studs already on them are mainly used for bolt pattern conversion or very thick spacers where extended studs are not available ( 1 inch or more )
you can get extended studs for up to 20 mm spacers, and this should be your first option, but not because the ones with studs are not safe, but because the less nuts you have to torque down, the less likely you are to leave one loose or not torqued to spec. That alone is more than enough reason for me to worry!
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Not going to be just the cheap plate inserts, i was going to go with the bolt on spacers, if anyone knows the hub diamater of the 7th gen rims that would be great too, not sure how similar the two are but i know that getting the 7th gen rims on and sitting right is a PITA because of the mag lugs rather than the acorn style
Edit: i did find 25mm bolt on spacers on ebay with 5x100 lug pattern and 54.1 center bore, magnesium/aluminium alloy for around 100 to 150 bucks


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Hubcentric isn't to the wheel its to the hub on the car. ie the 54.1 mm as Culp said.
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Oct 23, 2010 - 5:08 PM) *
Hubcentric isn't to the wheel its to the hub on the car. ie the 54.1 mm as Culp said.


is actually to both, it should meet the hub and fit snugly on it, and the wheel should do the same to the hub or spacer, that's what the hub centric rings are for, universal wheels need hub centric rings to fit properly and spin true to the hub, thus avoiding undesired vibration.


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post Oct 24, 2010 - 8:54 PM
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QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Oct 23, 2010 - 5:11 PM) *
QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Oct 23, 2010 - 5:08 PM) *
Hubcentric isn't to the wheel its to the hub on the car. ie the 54.1 mm as Culp said.


is actually to both, it should meet the hub and fit snugly on it, and the wheel should do the same to the hub or spacer, that's what the hub centric rings are for, universal wheels need hub centric rings to fit properly and spin true to the hub, thus avoiding undesired vibration.


Ya I was talking about the spacer only. But yes you also should use hub rings.
post Oct 24, 2010 - 9:02 PM
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just get rims with different offset, unless you truly love the ones you have..


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post Oct 25, 2010 - 11:23 AM
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its difficult to find another set of rims that i actually like that dont have a 48 or 38 offset, plus i want to be flush


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post Oct 26, 2010 - 12:40 AM
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closest to 0 as possible without passing the 30mm mark. go get your alignment rechecked just in case.


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post Oct 26, 2010 - 8:58 AM
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pretty sure im going with the 25mm spacers, the 7th gen wheels have a 38 offset so it should look better than now


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post Nov 4, 2010 - 8:31 AM
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uh, i would like to put 5mm spacers(or maybe 3mm)
my question is : if i buy universal ones, just by using a hub ring is that good enough or do i need also to put longer studs?
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QUOTE (zoik @ Nov 4, 2010 - 8:31 AM) *
uh, i would like to put 5mm spacers(or maybe 3mm)
my question is : if i buy universal ones, just by using a hub ring is that good enough or do i need also to put longer studs?


here is your answer read up!! http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.ph...ty-and-legality

also another thing guys. I bought inchiba spacers 10mm, and it's necessary to take out the dust plate cover that sits behind the front brake rotors. Only problem is that the bolts are rusted on mine because I have a 94 with 132,000 miles. Dealer wants to charge me $2 a screw. Although I can get a 20% discount if I speak to my dads friend who works at Toyota. Still that's expensive. There are 4 screws on each side right??


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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 5, 2010 - 8:32 PM) *
QUOTE (zoik @ Nov 4, 2010 - 8:31 AM) *
uh, i would like to put 5mm spacers(or maybe 3mm)
my question is : if i buy universal ones, just by using a hub ring is that good enough or do i need also to put longer studs?


here is your answer read up!! http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.ph...ty-and-legality

also another thing guys. I bought inchiba spacers 10mm, and it's necessary to take out the dust plate cover that sits behind the front brake rotors. Only problem is that the bolts are rusted on mine because I have a 94 with 132,000 miles. Dealer wants to charge me $2 a screw. Although I can get a 20% discount if I speak to my dads friend who works at Toyota. Still that's expensive. There are 4 screws on each side right??


That sounds more like an offset issue then the spacer. Its also a bad idea to remove the plate.
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yes I know dude but nobody answers my questions on the wheel offset guide so that's why I'm posting my problem here. How is it a bad idea it's a must in order to remove the old studs and install the extended studs.

I'm going to have to use a dremel tool and get a line across the screws so I can take them out out with a flat head screw driver cause the inside is of the screw with the allen wrench is so rusted! mad.gif I also have a full little box of allen wrench screws all black so hopefully once I take out the old ones I can replace them with the many different sized screws that I have, hopefully..

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You cant just take a big hammer to the studs? Thats how you get them out, there press in/out. I thought you wher talking about perm. removing your backing plate due to wheel rub.
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i'm currently using 27mm hubcentrics for rears 235/40/18 and 10mm for the fronts 225/40/18.. no issues whatsoever.


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post Nov 7, 2010 - 3:44 PM
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Nov 7, 2010 - 11:13 AM) *
You cant just take a big hammer to the studs? Thats how you get them out, there press in/out. I thought you wher talking about perm. removing your backing plate due to wheel rub.


man Do I really have to take a pic so you guys know what I'm talking about. Yes I am taking out my old studs and replacing them with extended/longer studs, but its a must to take out the backing plate in order to get them in right. I have a ST celica so it might be different for me. I really dont want to take a pic its such a waste of time just to take out the wheels jack up the car take out the caliper and caliper mounts. I'll take pics once the guy from ebay sends me the right extended studs!


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need help! im thinking about getting these hellaflush spacers. http://fatlace.3dcartstores.com/WPN-R-x-HE...20mm_p_525.html


im running 17x7 rims with a +42 offset and want it to sit flush. my car is dropped on megan coils with 205/40/17. im thinking about a 15mm or 20mm spacer. which would you guys recommend? id rather not roll my fenders but if i have to ill take it to a shop to do that too. so if i wanted this itd be the 54.1 x 15mm with 5x100 correct?
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Oct 21, 2010 - 8:01 PM) *
QUOTE (sphinxxx @ Oct 21, 2010 - 4:09 PM) *
In my experiance with spacers....
If you get the spacers that DONT already include the wheel bolts than you should be okay with just extended studs on the hub... the spacers WITH wheel studs built in i wouldn't trust!

Spacers are mainly all the same just make sure you dont go too thick, cause the hubs/bearing take a beating! especially if you're slammed!


The OP def doesn't have to worry about that.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

x3 on culps post,


Dude with your coilovers I wouldn't go more than 15 mm spacers honestly. With those 15mm you'd be at +27mm and with 20mm spacers you'd definitely need to get your fenders rolled. I'm pretty sure of it, but I would wait for confirmation from another member, before you decide on 15mm vs 20mm. I'm getting my spacers installed next weekend so I'll post up the pics. I have 16x7 rims with +42mm offset as well. You can even come over and check it out or we can meet somewhere before you decide to make your buy. Don't buy those hellaflush spacers, those are the type of spacers you definitely do not want to buy. You need a pair like mine.




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Hey, Bonzai. Where did you get yours?


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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Nov 15, 2010 - 3:35 AM) *
Hey, Bonzai. Where did you get yours?


These are Ichiba USA Spacers. I purchased them from Kuruma Motoring Inc from ebay. $230 shipped to my door. If you can see in the pic I have two different colored studs. The bronze ones are actual Ichiba Studs and are 2.40mm longer than the gold colored ones. The gold colored ones have the same diameter and threading but the quality is a bit different and it's probably for a different vehicle?? They contacted ichiba with the pics and I should be receiving my bronze studs by wednesday or thursday. That's the only complaint I have so far and I've been waiting for new studs since November 3rd.


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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 15, 2010 - 2:25 AM) *
QUOTE (SupraKid @ Oct 21, 2010 - 8:01 PM) *
QUOTE (sphinxxx @ Oct 21, 2010 - 4:09 PM) *
In my experiance with spacers....
If you get the spacers that DONT already include the wheel bolts than you should be okay with just extended studs on the hub... the spacers WITH wheel studs built in i wouldn't trust!

Spacers are mainly all the same just make sure you dont go too thick, cause the hubs/bearing take a beating! especially if you're slammed!


The OP def doesn't have to worry about that.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

x3 on culps post,


Dude with your coilovers I wouldn't go more than 15 mm spacers honestly. With those 15mm you'd be at +27mm and with 20mm spacers you'd definitely need to get your fenders rolled. I'm pretty sure of it, but I would wait for confirmation from another member, before you decide on 15mm vs 20mm. I'm getting my spacers installed next weekend so I'll post up the pics. I have 16x7 rims with +42mm offset as well. You can even come over and check it out or we can meet somewhere before you decide to make your buy. Don't buy those hellaflush spacers, those are the type of spacers you definitely do not want to buy. You need a pair like mine.




i wanna get the largest spacers i can without getting extended spacers..haha how well would these be?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUB-CENTRIC...#ht_5647wt_1165

and yea lemme know when you install them and we'll meet up
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dude your not getting it those will work no doubt, they just are not as secure/able to stand as much as a beating as mine would be and are not recommended by other members. We have a celica not a civic remember that.

the Largest spacers you could get without getting extended wheel studs would be 5mm. I remember members saying 15mm and 20mm rear for a real good flush look. Is that what your looking for that real nice show car flush look?


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Just Spend the money and get good ones, i gave up on the ebay spacers, im having mine custom made


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Never fear Ebay is here.
(All Ichiba spacers on ebay.)
ICHIBA 5X100/54.1 5mm-25mm


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I decided on getting mine custom made from a reputable company, going 18 in the front and 33 in back


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so this might be a dumb question. but the lower the drop, the smaller the spacer for a decent flush look. right? so if i just get my car dropped even more and adjust camber and alignment. itll look more flushed right?
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Flush is your offset man (flush with fenders), dropped is your height, and camber is...well your camber. So to answer your question, to look "more flush" you will need spacers or wider wheels.


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yea but i keep hearing that if your car is DROPPED. you wont need as large of a spacer as you would if you werent. to get more flush i have an image on my head as to what i mean but i cant explain it.
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QUOTE (mak5603 @ Nov 18, 2010 - 12:08 PM) *
Flush is your offset man (flush with fenders), dropped is your height, and camber is...well your camber. So to answer your question, to look "more flush" you will need spacers or wider wheels.


flush is not offset, flush is the result of having a low disk offset and suspension droppage. all those factors you mentioned are keys to being flush.

Like i said it doesnt matter what spacers you get to get the look you want, but its important to get the right spacer (w/hubcentric) to have your car safe to drive.

Ideal drivable offset??? I'd say +10front and +5rear


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Oh yeah, does anyone know where i can find a walk through on replacing front wheel bearings and tie rod ends? feeling a winter mod lol


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What spacers would you recommend to me for 17X7 wheels?


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im still rocking my 65 $ ebay spacers...I had them milled down 8mm because of excessive rubbing but now my new suspension can adjust camber smile.gif! I don't dare do a top speed run with the car possibly near 400hp I fear I might lose a wheel even though it has no play/vibration etc what do you guys think??


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Red123, I have the same wheel size and am considering a 25mm spacer at every corner.

Neon...I think...if they're not hubcentric...you should replace them.


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yeah I have to sell them...


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QUOTE (Red123 @ Dec 4, 2011 - 1:24 AM) *
What spacers would you recommend to me for 17X7 wheels?


On my 17x7's i have +25 in the front, +30 in the rear.

But i want wider wheels frown.gif , i hate running 205's.


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QUOTE (mak5603 @ Dec 8, 2011 - 2:20 PM) *
QUOTE (Red123 @ Dec 4, 2011 - 1:24 AM) *
What spacers would you recommend to me for 17X7 wheels?


On my 17x7's i have +25 in the front, +30 in the rear.

But i want wider wheels frown.gif , i hate running 205's.


I have 225's all around; 17 x 7's. I believe I have a 42 offset and I'm running 10mm spacers in the rear and 5mm in the front. I'm not even dropped and I rub whenever I hit decent dips in the road. I rolled the rear quarters myself so it doesn't rub as bad. With the front though, I reinstalled my engine and transmission under panels and it rubs on those when I turn.

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Yeah, i was just getting at the fact i cant run stretched tires on a 17x7 because i dont want to go smaller than a 205. Should've worded it better, i don't like the balloon tire look.

Cant wait for my next set of wheels, 17x8 +32.


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post Feb 14, 2012 - 1:45 PM
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what is the recommended company for spacers?
Is ICHIBA good?


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QUOTE (Red123 @ Feb 14, 2012 - 1:45 PM) *
what is the recommended company for spacers?
Is ICHIBA good?


ichiba version 1 hub centric wheel spacers. The studs aren't high quality but they will do the job. I say this because the threading on the ichiba goes all the way too the end. As to where the arp and oem studs don't thread all the way to the end. This is only an advantage if your removing the hub centric wheel spacers with the extended studs to another car so you don't damage the threading. I've had this happen to me before because I didnt use a nut on the end to create a large flat surface.


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Hey Bobzai.
I got R17 +35 offset wheels on my celica.
Which spacers would you recommend me to fit it perfect?
Can you post the link where can I buy it?

Thanks in advance.

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