ANOTHER problem w/ my new Celi, only one wheel gets power Options

[Mycurse180]

Been driving it in the snow now and I notice every time I get home there's only snow build up behind the drivers side tire, NEVER behind the pass side.

So today it was raining and I did a couple little burnouts from stop signs and it's ALWAYS the driver side spinning.
I took a tight right turn and made it spin [which should ALWAYS engage the pass side] yet the drivers side was the one spinning.

It is NEVER getting power. I'm not hearing any clicking like a bad axle would.

What could be the culprit and what should I check out?

[SupraKid]

The snow backup is most likely just a fender well plastic that got unhindged. The burning out is most likely a crappy tire or a suspension thing.

Also our cars stock are NOT lsd therefor when you burnout only one tire would spin.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 18, 2011 - 9:50 PM

[SeverX13]

Been driving it in the snow now and I notice every time I get home there's only snow build up behind the drivers side tire, NEVER behind the pass side.

So today it was raining and I did a couple little burnouts from stop signs and it's ALWAYS the driver side spinning.
I took a tight right turn and made it spin [which should ALWAYS engage the pass side] yet the drivers side was the one spinning.

It is NEVER getting power. I'm not hearing any clicking like a bad axle would.

What could be the culprit and what should I check out?

you dont have an LSD. only 1 tire will spin. OH NOES!

EDIT: i would also suggest just keep adding problems to your other thread but change the subject line

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jan 18, 2011 - 9:54 PM

[NOVAKx17]

gotta love it bro... speaking of one tire spinning.... you should make it spin over to brookville sometime! ha

[Mycurse180]

Did you guys not read what I said?

It only engages the driver side in ALL situations. An open differential will spin whichever tire has the least traction, and that varies between driver/pass side according to road conditions, left or right turns etc.

Even in the snow in the driveway, turning sharp right and flooring it [should engage pass side and it should spin, but the DS spins]. This is not right, the passenger side should spin, but it will not.

Been driving it in the snow now and I notice every time I get home there's only snow build up behind the drivers side tire, NEVER behind the pass side.

So today it was raining and I did a couple little burnouts from stop signs and it's ALWAYS the driver side spinning.
I took a tight right turn and made it spin [which should ALWAYS engage the pass side] yet the drivers side was the one spinning.

It is NEVER getting power. I'm not hearing any clicking like a bad axle would.

What could be the culprit and what should I check out?

you dont have an LSD. only 1 tire will spin. OH NOES!

EDIT: i would also suggest just keep adding problems to your other thread but change the subject line

You try to make a smartass comment when you don't even know how an open differential works, really? LOL
Also if people didn't make new threads this [and all] forums would be quite dead.

This post has been edited by Mycurse180: Jan 18, 2011 - 11:18 PM

[Batman722]

the driver's side always gets power first.
It's the shorter axle with less resistance, it spins first.

"smartass" ? that's just not right
don't be upset, it's the way a Celica s54 tranny works, maybe you should know that before you insult this site and the people on it first.

[Batman722]

also, change your plugs and wires, that will solve your 4K rpm problem.

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jan 18, 2011 - 11:30 PM

[4-eyed-freek]

path of least resistance... nuf said

well put batman722

[SeverX13]

Did you guys not read what I said?

It only engages the driver side in ALL situations. An open differential will spin whichever tire has the least traction, and that varies between driver/pass side according to road conditions, left or right turns etc.

Even in the snow in the driveway, turning sharp right and flooring it [should engage pass side and it should spin, but the DS spins]. This is not right, the passenger side should spin, but it will not.

Been driving it in the snow now and I notice every time I get home there's only snow build up behind the drivers side tire, NEVER behind the pass side.

So today it was raining and I did a couple little burnouts from stop signs and it's ALWAYS the driver side spinning.
I took a tight right turn and made it spin [which should ALWAYS engage the pass side] yet the drivers side was the one spinning.

It is NEVER getting power. I'm not hearing any clicking like a bad axle would.

What could be the culprit and what should I check out?

you dont have an LSD. only 1 tire will spin. OH NOES!

EDIT: i would also suggest just keep adding problems to your other thread but change the subject line

You try to make a smartass comment when you don't even know how an open differential works, really? LOL
Also if people didn't make new threads this [and all] forums would be quite dead.

I smell a pissy newb. Ive been here for years and went to school for automotive high performance. I know how and open diff works. you seem to know ALOT. so why dont you figure it out your damn self then??????? and with my edit i was talking about changing the description because you have like 3 problems that arent major problems. sorry i dont like seeing the forum clogged up. and the inside wheel is the wheel taht will spin slower. the outside will be the one faster. you made a right turn. therefor making the right tire on the outside and spin faster. drivers side is shorter. it spins 1st.

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jan 18, 2011 - 11:41 PM

[Mycurse180]

the driver's side always gets power first.
It's the shorter axle with less resistance, it spins first.

"smartass" ? that's just not right
don't be upset, it's the way a Celica s54 tranny works, maybe you should know that before you insult this site and the people on it first.

I did not know that, good info. How come the driver side axle is shorter?
Am I the only one then who doesn't like the fact that the DS always spins? It pulls the car in odd directions sometimes.

I didn't insult the site, this seems to be the spot for 6GCs and most of you have killer rides.
I learn things by asking lots of questions. For some reason people get pissed off about this, but the explanations provided help me learn a lot
of things I otherwise wouldn't know.

So does this driver side always getting the most power affect the handling of the Celi's negatively?

[HectortheRican]

Am I the only one then who doesn't like the fact that the DS always spins? It pulls the car in odd directions sometimes.

Accelerate from a stop light like everyone else and you won't have that problem.

[nics]

the driver's side always gets power first.
It's the shorter axle with less resistance, it spins first.

"smartass" ? that's just not right
don't be upset, it's the way a Celica s54 tranny works, maybe you should know that before you insult this site and the people on it first.

I did not know that, good info. How come the driver side axle is shorter?
Am I the only one then who doesn't like the fact that the DS always spins? It pulls the car in odd directions sometimes.

I didn't insult the site, this seems to be the spot for 6GCs and most of you have killer rides.
I learn things by asking lots of questions. For some reason people get pissed off about this, but the explanations provided help me learn a lot
of things I otherwise wouldn't know.

So does this driver side always getting the most power affect the handling of the Celi's negatively?

driver side is shorter because the engine is transversely mounted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-engine,...el_drive_layout

[SupraKid]

We don't like answering the same damned question over and over. I can assure you the majority of questions you'll ask or have already asked have been covered. Use the search function.

[eboz74]

lol reading all this made me laugh

[mkernz22]

What I've learned pretty fast for being new:


This post has been edited by mkernz22: Jan 19, 2011 - 9:14 AM

[Mycurse180]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

[HectortheRican]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

Yes. It does.

You just aren't typing in the initial search specifically enough. Treat it more like tags instead of single words. Looking for someone's 3SGTE swap? Type in like 6 or 7 words associated with that instead of just "3SGTE swap".

[4-eyed-freek]

or beter yet. become friends with hector and he will make your day! hahah

[SupraKid]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

Now,had you looked around the site youd find how to use the search function properly. There is a thread about it,I'm not going to just tell you.

[95CelicaST]

Don't make me start being a douchebag again...

[SwissFerdi]

or beter yet. become friends with hector and he will make your day! hahah

No, Hector will just try to fondle your silly ol' -

Never mind.

New guy, welcome. We're a good bunch, just don't mind the few buttholes.

PS: I'm on that list of buttholes.



This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 19, 2011 - 1:04 PM

[95CelicaST]

Buttholes is a funny word.

[mkernz22]

*hint* *hint*
when you click on the search button, look for the bold lettering in the small pop out window. if you click on those bold letters it will lead you to a world of wonders

[Mycurse180]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

Now,had you looked around the site youd find how to use the search function properly. There is a thread about it,I'm not going to just tell you.

Drop the condescending ****, chump.

[Stambo]

even if there was a problem with the diff. You wouldn't be able to really know until you take the trans apart and take a look see. If it worrys you that much thats what i would go after

[HectortheRican]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

Now,had you looked around the site youd find how to use the search function properly. There is a thread about it,I'm not going to just tell you.

Drop the condescending ****, chump.

I know that Andrew can be a bit testy, but seriously, you're not helping your situation either.

[SupraKid]

Trust me I've tried the search function. The one on this site doesn't work very well.

Now,had you looked around the site youd find how to use the search function properly. There is a thread about it,I'm not going to just tell you.

Drop the condescending ****, chump.

Then stop asking questions that have been answered before and acting like youve actually looked.

[Keiri]

IBTL.

PS new guy: Don't go to Off Topic because this unruly group really loses their minds there. Best of luck.

[Mycurse180]

IBTL.

PS new guy: Don't go to Off Topic because this unruly group really loses their minds there. Best of luck.

I'll be sure to check it out. :]

[mkernz22]

and btw, only one of my tires spin when i burnout turning. going straight they both spin.

[95CelicaST]

I don't do burnouts. They're against my religion.


And I'll set you a place at the table in OT. We hope you will join us for tea and crumpets.

[Mycurse180]

I still don't think this is settled...I'm 100% sure the pass side should spin on occassion...Otherwise I'll just have a bald driver side tire.

[Imawakeyo]

I thought I'd add to the tomfoolery with a simple statement.

I like ponies.

[SeverX13]

I thought I'd add to the tomfoolery with a simple statement.

I like ponies.

^ uncalled for

I still don't think this is settled...I'm 100% sure the pass side should spin on occassion...Otherwise I'll just have a bald driver side tire.

when your going straight. both wheels have the same amount of torque applied which means both wheels are locked in the cage. when youre turning the pinions in the cage start to turn. the inside tire spins slower while the outside spins faster. You make a right turn, the left tire will rotate more due to it having a further distance to travel and the right side less do to the shorter travel distance. either wheel will spin when the other has exceeded the threshold of traction available, it all depends on the conditions, such as how heavy the vehicle is, how much drag, how much friction there is, gradient of the road, the vehicle's momentum , weather and what ever else. your diff seems to be working fine

/thread

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jan 20, 2011 - 1:13 AM

[Mycurse180]

when your going straight. both wheels have the same amount of torque applied which means both wheels are locked in the cage. when youre turning the pinions in the cage start to turn. the inside tire spins slower while the outside spins faster. You make a right turn, the left tire will rotate more due to it having a further distance to travel and the right side less do to the shorter travel distance. either wheel will spin when the other has exceeded the threshold of traction available, it all depends on the conditions, such as how heavy the vehicle is, how much drag, how much friction there is, gradient of the road, the vehicle's momentum , weather and what ever else. your diff seems to be working fine

/thread

When I have the wheels straight I still only get power to the drivers side.
Tomorrow I will make a sharp turn to the left and make it spin. You're telling me that if I do this the pass tire will spin, correct?

[SupraKid]

So..ill be the one to ask..Is your driver side tire bald?Are both your front tires the same brand,size and tread?Are you on stock suspension?

[SeverX13]

when your going straight. both wheels have the same amount of torque applied which means both wheels are locked in the cage. when youre turning the pinions in the cage start to turn. the inside tire spins slower while the outside spins faster. You make a right turn, the left tire will rotate more due to it having a further distance to travel and the right side less do to the shorter travel distance. either wheel will spin when the other has exceeded the threshold of traction available, it all depends on the conditions, such as how heavy the vehicle is, how much drag, how much friction there is, gradient of the road, the vehicle's momentum , weather and what ever else. your diff seems to be working fine

/thread

When I have the wheels straight I still only get power to the drivers side.
Tomorrow I will make a sharp turn to the left and make it spin. You're telling me that if I do this the pass tire will spin, correct?

when you have the wheels straight and are doing burnouts the driverside wheel will spin and the passenger side wont. when your driving normal they will both spin and be distributed the same amount of torque. If your driving normal and straight and one wheel seems to feel like it has more traction than the other, it could possibly be a wheel bearing

[presure2]

when your going straight. both wheels have the same amount of torque applied which means both wheels are locked in the cage. when youre turning the pinions in the cage start to turn. the inside tire spins slower while the outside spins faster. You make a right turn, the left tire will rotate more due to it having a further distance to travel and the right side less do to the shorter travel distance. either wheel will spin when the other has exceeded the threshold of traction available, it all depends on the conditions, such as how heavy the vehicle is, how much drag, how much friction there is, gradient of the road, the vehicle's momentum , weather and what ever else. your diff seems to be working fine

/thread

When I have the wheels straight I still only get power to the drivers side.
Tomorrow I will make a sharp turn to the left and make it spin. You're telling me that if I do this the pass tire will spin, correct?

when you have the wheels straight and are doing burnouts the driverside wheel will spin and the passenger side wont. when your driving normal they will both spin and be distributed the same amount of torque. If your driving normal and straight and one wheel seems to feel like it has more traction than the other, it could possibly be a wheel bearing

thats not a hard rule tho.

i have vids of my car, when i had the 5sfte, leaving an "LSD" style burnout iwth the S54..i've been in others where it never happens.

alot of diffrent factors come into play, fluid, wear, suspension, tires, all play a part.

[Neon90424]

This may be the reason your driver side wheel spins while the other one doesnt.

[SwissFerdi]

And I'll set you a place at the table in OT. We hope you will join us for tea and crumpets.

But how do we break dessert to him? Not for the faint of heart...

...giggity.

I thought I'd add to the tomfoolery with a simple statement.

I like ponies.

Well I personally like turtles, but we'll agree to disagree tharr friend.

OP, I'm interested in hearing what your suspension setup is as well, this is a curious mystery. Maybe the snow is throwing another element of less traction in, but then again you could say that lack of traction is lack of traction...who knows.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 20, 2011 - 9:04 AM

[Mycurse180]

To answer the legit questions, the car is completely stock suspension, stock GT wheels with 205/55/15 BFGs, tires are basically brand new.

I'm just trying to figure out if something is wrong or not. With all my of previous vehicles with open diffs, the tire with the least traction will always spin, no matter whether it's DS or PS. It just does not make sense to me that only one side gets power all the time.

[richee3]

It was my passenger side tire was the one with all the power in my old Celica, except when traction was an issue or when I turned. My open diff acted exactly as you are saying it should. My passenger side tire would always go bald quicker than my driver's side because it pulled more often than the driver's side. The power always took the path of least resistance. I don't necessarily think that it's something wrong with your car if all the power is going to the driver's side wheel, but your passenger side wheel should pull from time to time.

[stephen_lee]

what could have happened: your diff locked up and broke the pinion gears, and lodging into the DS, causing the PS to spin freely.

way to check: leave car in park(auto) or in 1st(manual) jack the passenger side ONLY off the ground and try to spin it. it shouldn't spin. now jack both front tires off the ground, spin either one, and the opposite tire should spin in the opposite direction.

[Batman722]

how are your tires ?

[nics]

To answer the legit questions, the car is completely stock suspension, stock GT wheels with 205/55/15 BFGs, tires are basically brand new.

I'm just trying to figure out if something is wrong or not. With all my of previous vehicles with open diffs, the tire with the least traction will always spin, no matter whether it's DS or PS. It just does not make sense to me that only one side gets power all the time.

[czwalga]

Just jack the front of the car up (use jack stands). Put the car in drive.... one wheel will spin. Get some gloves and slow the rotation down, see if the other wheel starts to spin.

If it does you dont have a problem. If you stop that wheel and the other wheel isn't spinng somethings wrong, but i'm willing to bet its fine.

[Mycurse180]

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

[NOVAKx17]

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

dude, these cars are sweet. you just have to put the time, and love into them.
you were all for this car, until you started with some little problems, and this , might not even be
a problem.... just make it as nice as a car as you can, and be proud of it.
there aren't many around in our area at all

[Mycurse180]

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

dude, these cars are sweet. you just have to put the time, and love into them.
you were all for this car, until you started with some little problems, and this , might not even be
a problem.... just make it as nice as a car as you can, and be proud of it.
there aren't many around in our area at all

I need to get back in a Jeep. I'm 6'2, big, and this car is just not for me at all. It's old, ugly, tiny and crappy. If it was a hatch I'd like it more...

[SupraKid]

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

dude, these cars are sweet. you just have to put the time, and love into them.
you were all for this car, until you started with some little problems, and this , might not even be
a problem.... just make it as nice as a car as you can, and be proud of it.
there aren't many around in our area at all

I need to get back in a Jeep. I'm 6'2, big, and this car is just not for me at all. It's old, ugly, tiny and crappy. If it was a hatch I'd like it more...

O my lord.....I'm literally crying right now out of laughter. God bless you sir...

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 21, 2011 - 9:27 PM

[NOVAKx17]

well if you decide to keep it, good, its a great car..
but if you decide to sell it, let me know first because i'll be looking for a gt celica for a future swap.
and your only like 20 minutes away. so either way. keep it in your mind.

Anddddddddd if its so old, tiny, ugly and crappy, you should give me a hell of a deal on it, RIGHT?

haha (=

This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 21, 2011 - 10:17 PM

[enderswift]

this car is embarrassing?

dude do you realize what site your on?

[Batman722]

he doesn't care about the car and that's ok.
Not everyone cares about their Celica like most of the people on this site.

His car most likely is a piece of crap and is embarrassing, let him junk it, who really cares.
I'm happy he's getting something that will make him happy and there will be one less knucklehead here.

[SeverX13]

I'm gonna say screw it and drive it. I'm not investing much at all in to this car. I want to get another Jeep after this semester. This car is embarrassing.

RANT TIME!


If the car is so fukcin embarrassing then why the hell are you on this site? You do realize this site if full of hardcore enthusiests. take the god damn time and search the site and read the stories of what people poured there hard earned cash and blood sweat and tears into this "embarrasing" car. you will find some AMAZING cars on here. some noob joins a site for enthusiasts and people who love their car or like it in someway and insults the car that they love and put such work in? You have some nerve buddy. if you took the time to listen to WHAT THE FUKC everyone has been telling you, you would be in fine shape. this thread was answered to the extent that you dont need to worry about sh!t. and if you are so worried then take it to a shop. you unbelievable man. Im 6 foot 3 and fit fine in my celicas so i dont know what your bitchin about. do us all a favor and sellt he car to someone who will love it and take care of it, and who actually has a brain because obviously you dont. listen to what people are telling you. we are tryin to help but your being a prick about it.