3sgte swap/ still no spark??, Have power going to coil on acc. ( both sides ) Options

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I have literally checked everything on this car, had engine harness redone for 3sgte st205, ( originally 5sfe ) coil checks out good, but have power going to coil when key turned on, as well as negative side of coil has constant power, is this right???? Is something screwed up in the wiring? As well, checked an injector clip, and have constant power to black/ orange wire, but nothing on the other...when trying to crank, could my coil check out good from a multimeter, and still be shot or something? Have no spark coming from coil, to coil wire, really driving me nuts right now. I'm plugin, but I'm not playin.

[presure2]

silly question, but the ignitor is making good ground thru the bracket to the firewall, right?

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silly question, but the ignitor is making good ground thru the bracket to the firewall, right?

Very good question actually, yes, just thought of that last night and scraped the bracket and firewall down to nice bear shiny metal, and torqued tight against firewall, coil is tight against igniter as well,
Reason why I keep going back to wiring, is because I had spark before harness was converted....now after conversion, I have no spark, I guess it is possible for a part to fail consequently in that time but I've checked everything, Am2 fuse, Am1 fuse, ignition fuse 7.5a, igniter, coil, grounds-I have 3 total, heard of this problem in toyotas about something called a condensor inside the distributer that can meltdown causing my problem, or a noise filter, or both...was told to disconnect which ever one the Problem is, and car will start, but I don't know where these items are???

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silly question, but the ignitor is making good ground thru the bracket to the firewall, right?

Very good question actually, yes, just thought of that last night and scraped the bracket and firewall down to nice bear shiny metal, and torqued tight against firewall, coil is tight against igniter as well,
Reason why I keep going back to wiring, is because I had spark before harness was converted....now after conversion, I have no spark, I guess it is possible for a part to fail consequently in that time but I've checked everything, Am2 fuse, Am1 fuse, ignition fuse 7.5a, igniter, coil, grounds-I have 3 total, heard of this problem in toyotas about something called a condensor inside the distributer that can meltdown causing my problem, or a noise filter, or both...was told to disconnect which ever one the Problem is, and car will start, but I don't know where these items are???

in theory it could be wiring...but they shouldnt be touching any of that stuff in the harness anyway..its just one wire on the interior (clutch start switch), and a handfull at the EA1 plug in the fusebox that need to be worked with that are for the w2a ic system, and the fuel pump relay.

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silly question, but the ignitor is making good ground thru the bracket to the firewall, right?

Very good question actually, yes, just thought of that last night and scraped the bracket and firewall down to nice bear shiny metal, and torqued tight against firewall, coil is tight against igniter as well,
Reason why I keep going back to wiring, is because I had spark before harness was converted....now after conversion, I have no spark, I guess it is possible for a part to fail consequently in that time but I've checked everything, Am2 fuse, Am1 fuse, ignition fuse 7.5a, igniter, coil, grounds-I have 3 total, heard of this problem in toyotas about something called a condensor inside the distributer that can meltdown causing my problem, or a noise filter, or both...was told to disconnect which ever one the Problem is, and car will start, but I don't know where these items are???

in theory it could be wiring...but they shouldnt be touching any of that stuff in the harness anyway..its just one wire on the interior (clutch start switch), and a handfull at the EA1 plug in the fusebox that need to be worked with that are for the w2a ic system, and the fuel pump relay.

What about if I don't have a water pump for my w2a unit, and bought a bosch aftermarket pump to circulate water off a toggle in dash switch, cause that's what I did, and harness was wired as if I was running a front mount cause that's how they wired it when I told them what I was doing, so the clip that plugs into intercooler pump has been eliminated from harness, as well as my intercooler level sensor clip, it's probably routed in the harness to the right spots to eliminate error codes, but if something was wrong in this circuit, could that cause my problem...

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nope, the car will run without the pump being wired correctly.
if there is a problem with the IC pump, or level sensor, it will set a code 54.

[Culpable04]

the fuel circuit and intercooler pump circuit run really close especially where the plugs for the relays are, and is easy to mess something up on the fuel pump relay while working with the pump relay.

make sure is not a fuel issue you are having rather than ignition

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Mar 26, 2011 - 12:05 PM

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nope, the car will run without the pump being wired correctly.
if there is a problem with the IC pump, or level sensor, it will set a code 54.

Ok, that's what I thought as well, figured maybe there was more to it. How bout the coil...is it odd to you that when key in on position, the clip that plugs in to it has two wires....both light up as constant powers, is that strange,

the fuel circuit and intercooler pump circuit run really close especially where the plugs for the relays are, and is easy to mess something up on the fuel pump relay while working with the pump relay.

make sure is not a fuel issue you are having rather than ignition

Well, I do smell fuel when cranking......can that circuit cause no spark? If hooked up wrong?

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the fuel circuit and intercooler pump circuit run really close especially where the plugs for the relays are, and is easy to mess something up on the fuel pump relay while working with the pump relay.

make sure is not a fuel issue you are having rather than ignition

Where do you suggest I look for this, in the engine bay driverside fuse box?

[Culpable04]

that will depend on how they converted your harness, I did mine myself and I still have the ST205 factory relays on a box mounted by the radiator.

[brenton1919]

I have literally checked everything on this car, had engine harness redone for 3sgte st205, ( originally 5sfe ) coil checks out good, but have power going to coil when key turned on, as well as negative side of coil has constant power, is this right???? Is something screwed up in the wiring? As well, checked an injector clip, and have constant power to black/ orange wire, but nothing on the other...when trying to crank, could my coil check out good from a multimeter, and still be shot or something? Have no spark coming from coil, to coil wire, really driving me nuts right now. I'm plugin, but I'm not playin.

HEY TRY THIS OK are you ready! send it to dr tweak save your self now before u mess somthing up like i did lol i tired to wire my cadlina harness oh yeah i messed it up bad so call him and just let him do it for u it would have cost me just 500 dollars to get it done the first time since i messed it up so bad it cost my a 1000+

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Iirc he had the harness done by tweak.

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Iirc he had the harness done by tweak.

Ok Pressure, here it goes, what do you think of this, pick-up coil, the clip that goes to distributer, R, Y, B, L, colored wires right, traced wires back to C4, C5, C17, C18, are the pinouts for the ECU clip C......Well, red, black, and yellow are correct, but the solid blue wire from distributer, turns into a blue with a thick black stripe at ECU pin.....there is a solid blue wire in this clip, but it's going to C 21 or 22 ( can't remember ) will have to see when I'm home. Point is maybe these two wires need to be reversed?? Regardless, I will take loom out of ECU/firewall tonight. And test distributer wires to ECU, make sure there is a path....

[Neon90424]

My 205 had problems with the relays I would lose spark and my gauges would go to 0...a good kick into the relays got it running again....Ive had it ziptied as best as zipties can zip tie

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I have literally checked everything on this car, had engine harness redone for 3sgte st205, ( originally 5sfe ) coil checks out good, but have power going to coil when key turned on, as well as negative side of coil has constant power, is this right???? Is something screwed up in the wiring? As well, checked an injector clip, and have constant power to black/ orange wire, but nothing on the other...when trying to crank, could my coil check out good from a multimeter, and still be shot or something? Have no spark coming from coil, to coil wire, really driving me nuts right now. I'm plugin, but I'm not playin.

Lol, nice man, just did ohm test on distributer, I believe you hold multimeter on G- and test with the other end G2 G1 and NE my readings were 154ohms across the board, except NE, that read 191ohms......big difference there, don't know the ohm range for the disstributer to be good though,

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If the fuel resister shorts out, could that cause my problem of no spark????

[Stambo]

i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

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i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

I will have to check that, when home from work, I will check the fuel resister first, Manuel says operation is 0.73ohms. Anything else, replace.
Where exactly is the cam sensor.... Distributer side or timing belt side???

[brenton1919]

i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

I will have to check that, when home from work, I will check the fuel resister first, Manuel says operation is 0.73ohms. Anything else, replace.
Where exactly is the cam sensor.... Distributer side or timing belt side???

if you had your harness done by tweak then its right check the Distributer coil wen im working on cars and they wont start i find this to be my problem most of the time check your relay's fuses and make sure your engine is grounded your fuel has nothin at all to do with your car not gettin spark i can tell u that right now check your starter relay to by the ecu but if u have power going to the Distributer then your problem is the coil i can put my money on it and if not then its your ecu its not gettin the signal to the Distributer coil telling it to spark your ecu might be bad but if your have power to the Distributer there is no reason at all u should not be getting a spark unless u have a bad coil and remember just because its new doesn't mean its good they seel bad coils all the time make sure your rotor button is good to it maybe bad or your cap

[brenton1919]

i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

even if u have a bad cam sensor your car will still spark ive had that problem before to the way u see if the cam sensor is bad the best way is to take it out and see if it will pick up anything metal or steel if it doesn't it is bad now if u have a bad crank sensor your car will not start because the cam sensor keep it in time the crank sensor does both it lets your ecu know the car is trying to start and it work with the cam sensor to keep your car in time

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i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

I will have to check that, when home from work, I will check the fuel resister first, Manuel says operation is 0.73ohms. Anything else, replace.
Where exactly is the cam sensor.... Distributer side or timing belt side???

if you had your harness done by tweak then its right check the Distributer coil wen im working on cars and they wont start i find this to be my problem most of the time check your relay's fuses and make sure your engine is grounded your fuel has nothin at all to do with your car not gettin spark i can tell u that right now check your starter relay to by the ecu but if u have power going to the Distributer then your problem is the coil i can put my money on it and if not then its your ecu its not gettin the signal to the Distributer coil telling it to spark your ecu might be bad but if your have power to the Distributer there is no reason at all u should not be getting a spark unless u have a bad coil and remember just because its new doesn't mean its good they seel bad coils all the time make sure your rotor button is good to it maybe bad or your cap

Hey Brenton, well, my issue is have no spark from discharge in coil to cap, I have power to coil + and - but I have no pulse when cranking, same with injectors....I hear what your sayin about Tweak, he does do awesome work, very impressed with how clean and perfectly routed my harness is,checked every wire at ECU, and all is correct....
Pulled distributer off and tested, G1, G2 checked out at 154ohms and NE+ was 190ohms and of course G- is ground, that I tested from, and from what I can tell, it is in good shape within ohm spec, today when home from work will hook coil directly up to battery to see if I can get discharge to arc...then I will know if it's shot or not. If nothing comes out.....anymore thoughts man??

[brenton1919]

i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you wouldn't be getting fuel pressure.

Do you get a signal from the cam sensor at all? You should see a on off on off on off type of signal correct?

I will have to check that, when home from work, I will check the fuel resister first, Manuel says operation is 0.73ohms. Anything else, replace.
Where exactly is the cam sensor.... Distributer side or timing belt side???

if you had your harness done by tweak then its right check the Distributer coil wen im working on cars and they wont start i find this to be my problem most of the time check your relay's fuses and make sure your engine is grounded your fuel has nothin at all to do with your car not gettin spark i can tell u that right now check your starter relay to by the ecu but if u have power going to the Distributer then your problem is the coil i can put my money on it and if not then its your ecu its not gettin the signal to the Distributer coil telling it to spark your ecu might be bad but if your have power to the Distributer there is no reason at all u should not be getting a spark unless u have a bad coil and remember just because its new doesn't mean its good they seel bad coils all the time make sure your rotor button is good to it maybe bad or your cap

Hey Brenton, well, my issue is have no spark from discharge in coil to cap, I have power to coil + and - but I have no pulse when cranking, same with injectors....I hear what your sayin about Tweak, he does do awesome work, very impressed with how clean and perfectly routed my harness is,checked every wire at ECU, and all is correct....
Pulled distributer off and tested, G1, G2 checked out at 154ohms and NE+ was 190ohms and of course G- is ground, that I tested from, and from what I can tell, it is in good shape within ohm spec, today when home from work will hook coil directly up to battery to see if I can get discharge to arc...then I will know if it's shot or not. If nothing comes out.....anymore thoughts man??

did u check the ignitor if u have power to the Distributer coil and your ignitor is good check your relays tho's will really get you but i really think its the coil the cap rotor botton relay or ignitor try to get a another Distributer the whole thing see what happens i really have that problem alot when imm working on peoples car those coils gooo outt alll the timeeee and i put a new one on and bam it starts righttt upp but i really think it has nothin to do with the wires tweak has been doing them to long to mess them up wat gen do you have i think the 3rd gen has a cam sensor it should still spark if its bad the car just wont be in time take the cam sensor out and try to pick up something metal with it if it doesn't pick up anything its bad if that is the Distributer coil that came with the engine and you never got a new one im almost sure that that is your problem

[Culpable04]

are you saying you don't have pulse signal to distributor cap and injectors ?

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3rd gens do not have a cam sensor..(well, technically, the do, but it's part of the distributor.

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are you saying you don't have pulse signal to distributor cap and injectors ?

Yes, when cranking, have no pulse signal to cap......just a constant power,

[brenton1919]

are you saying you don't have pulse signal to distributor cap and injectors ?

Yes, when cranking, have no pulse signal to cap......just a constant power,

it might be your ecu if your not getting a signal call tweak tomorrow and ask him can he look at your ecu this is why i got a caldina i have c.o.p's and dont have to worry about the Distributer and ignitor just my crank sensor c.o.ps and cam sensor

[Culpable04]

are you saying you don't have pulse signal to distributor cap and injectors ?

Yes, when cranking, have no pulse signal to cap......just a constant power,

and injectors ?

if both systems are affected, I would look into the COR

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are you saying you don't have pulse signal to distributor cap and injectors ?

Yes, when cranking, have no pulse signal to cap......just a constant power,

and injectors ?

if both systems are affected, I would look into the COR

Yes, no pulse at injectors either.....

[Stambo]

so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

[brenton1919]

so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

yep same thing i told him

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so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

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so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

[brenton1919]

so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

uve took the harness off make sureeeeeee u ground those ecu cables in a gud spot put them back where they were wen u had it on there before u sent it and yes u can replace just the coil inside if u really wanted to

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so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

uve took the harness off make sureeeeeee u ground those ecu cables in a gud spot put them back where they were wen u had it on there before u sent it and yes u can replace just the coil inside if u really wanted to

What ECU cables to ground?? Wait does ECU need to be bolted down to centre console on bracket, to be grounded???

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so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

uve took the harness off make sureeeeeee u ground those ecu cables in a gud spot put them back where they were wen u had it on there before u sent it and yes u can replace just the coil inside if u really wanted to

What ECU cables to ground?? Wait does ECU need to be bolted down to centre console on bracket, to be grounded???

the ecu does not have to be bolted in.
here are the specs for the 3rd gen distributor.

[brenton1919]

so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

uve took the harness off make sureeeeeee u ground those ecu cables in a gud spot put them back where they were wen u had it on there before u sent it and yes u can replace just the coil inside if u really wanted to

What ECU cables to ground?? Wait does ECU need to be bolted down to centre console on bracket, to be grounded???

no there are cables that cum out from the ecu to the engine bay they should be grounded to the block on the caldina they are under the intake man i have no idea where they are on the st205 can sumbody please help him out with a st205 he needs to find the ecu ground cables

so looks like either something with the ecu or dizzy. Correct? The injectors won't pulse unless having a signal from the dizzy.

Does dizzy stand for distributer.....sorry, had to ask, is that what you mean though, if so Brenton told memto replace it, can't I just replace the pick-up coil inside, or should I just get a whole new one.

I will say this to you guys, I had spark before harness was sent out........I get harness back 2 months later, and now no spark.....think that's why it makes this so much more confusing, because it's hard to believe a part would just go on my car in that time the harness was gone, I guess it's because of coinsidence, that I'm suspect of the harness, cause the car would barely roll over twice before firing, now nothing????????

uve took the harness off make sureeeeeee u ground those ecu cables in a gud spot put them back where they were wen u had it on there before u sent it and yes u can replace just the coil inside if u really wanted to

What ECU cables to ground?? Wait does ECU need to be bolted down to centre console on bracket, to be grounded???

and the not cables sry i just say that for wires but they are wires they come out of your harness they should be brown unless tweak used a different color but im sure they are still brown

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

[brenton1919]

Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking,

[brenton1919]

Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking,

did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?

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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking,

did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?

yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??

[brenton1919]

Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

yes you will still see a spark thats why i think u have a bad ecu or tweak might have wired a wire wrong but i really dont think its his wires like ive said he's down to many to mess up give him a call tell him wats going and see what he says and then call ATSRACING in denton tx tell them your problem and see what they say

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking,

did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?

yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??

[injection]

Well,'just finished installing new coil.....tried cranking again n nothin......this reappoint SUCKS!!

[brenton1919]

Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness

Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????

yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem

K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????

Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU.

yes you will still see a spark thats why i think u have a bad ecu or tweak might have wired a wire wrong but i really dont think its his wires like ive said he's down to many to mess up give him a call tell him wats going and see what he says and then call ATSRACING in denton tx tell them your problem and see what they say

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking,

did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?

yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??

yes you would see a spark even if the timing is off umm man the only thing i could think off is the ecu or tweaksss wires but i really dont think its the wires but u never know how do u know its not e=gettin a spark did u stick a screw driver in there and let it light u up lol i kno it sound crazy but thats what i do lol call tweak if i was u i would send him my ecu and the wires let him go over it and make sure its good there find the ground to the ecu like u did the power see if your ecu is getting ground i think u are having a ground problem if i was near u i kno i could fix your problem but not being around the car is kind of hard lol i know how to make a car start when its not getting a spark but like i said im not near u so lol i have to go off your info does all your dash lights come on then u turn the key i kno this sound crazy but sometimes these cars get a short mine had this problem the check engine light wont come on when u turn the key that means some where those wires i was tellin u about has a short your car will turn over but wont start its a purple wire a pink wire and the other one is either white black or brown i cant remember but we had to e run that wire because it was trippin i know the prolem u are having because my car use to do it