Rhode Island Project Celica Options

[LimitedGT4]

hey, not sure if this is the right place to post this and sorry if its not, but here goes.

I live in RI and am trying to do an engine swap and cant decide between the Beams, GT4 or a 4age silver or black top.
i know theres a couple of people in this forum that live in RI and have awesome cars but i havent been able to get their attention or help so lets see if you guys can.
i have a 97 ST limited and so far ive gather that i need new mounts, tranny, possibly exhaust, trans axles, and complete engine for a beams or GT4 swap
and ill need an engine if i plan to go with the 4age or am i missing something else also.

as far as the wiring goes for the beams engine is it a plug n play if i get a celica st202 front clip? or am i better off getting parts seperately

as my project progresses i will continue to post updates, hopefully batman and hurley will help me out.

ill also post pics later

thanks for help in advance




This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 3, 2011 - 5:14 PM

[Batman722]

sorry I haven't responded yet, been a little busy.

as for a swap, it depends on goals and $.
There's a ton of info here about a Beams or 3sgte swap, so far you have the basics.
where in RI are you ?

[LimitedGT4]

well goals are different, im trying to decide which would be better to invest in, as for $ i have a good amount to consider buying an entire GT4 clip and still have some to do the labor and all. i would love to do a GT4 swap or a full GT4 conversion if i find anyone crazy enough to not talk me out of it. and seeing how you done them all if you could give me some insight as to which one has the best results.

i live in Pawtucket but go down to NK every sunday and actually tomorrow sat as well, not sure if you could do a conversion for me or help me do it either thing would be GREAT

p.s meetin up with you guys and seeing your rides would definitely help out ALOT lol

[LimitedGT4]

pics are up, aslo got a front clip from a GT4 which included front and rear suspension and front and rear GT4 breaks and discs, tail lights and spoiler with raiser blocks

ill post pics when i get it

wooo am excited!!!!!!!!!


Batman Harley HEELLLLLP lol

how much for your crew to do the swap? if you guys have the time and all onviously


This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 14, 2011 - 9:12 PM

[smkr3w]

cant wait to see upcoming progress, good luck

btw, what kind of rim are those? size? theyre sick!

[LimitedGT4]

cant wait to see upcoming progress, good luck

btw, what kind of rim are those? size? theyre sick!

thanks i dont know the brand name of the rims because i bought them second hand and the name was painted over, but they are 18x7 front and 18x19 rear i believe

[S8S8]

That's awesome that the package came with so much stuff. The GT4 front end looks to be in good shape, and you even scored the JDM tails. Nice.

You should swap over the auto climate control if your car doesn't have it already. I did this on mine and the job wasn't too difficult, but you have to strip the interior pretty much bare and swap over the harnesses.

Good luck with the project.

[LimitedGT4]

That's awesome that the package came with so much stuff. The GT4 front end looks to be in good shape, and you even scored the JDM tails. Nice.

You should swap over the auto climate control if your car doesn't have it already. I did this on mine and the job wasn't too difficult, but you have to strip the interior pretty much bare and swap over the harnesses.

Good luck with the project.

O i plan to use the climate control u better believe that lol now i know who i can ask for help
Ill even use the stock radio because mine came with after market but that one seems better

[opie_7afe]

nice clip your getting there man comming with alot of goodies...but in all seriousness in a usdm celica compared to the gt4 the whole rear floor pan (from about front of back seats to bumper) is way different to accomodate for the rear differential and subframe connectors as well as beefed up strut towers, i would install the 3sgte as fwd (will need new transmission of course) and i bet you will forget about the awd for a while.....the rhd conversion would be easier then the awd conversion for sure and theres some people who have done this which is done by swapping out firewall and all other stuff from your clip..if you say did the rhd swap before the engine swap well you wouldnt need to get wire harness work done (if that is correct from my research), but if you dont do rhd swap (i wouldnt more hassle imo) you need to send your harness into tweak or some one else who does wire harness's for 'yota engine swaps, unless of course you feel confident enough to do the wireharness work...hell im good with 12v electronics and i wont even mess with a harness due to i dont feel confident i could do it correct without a ton of issues(id rather my swap be as much " plug 'n play" as possible for a swap that is!)...good luck man and i 100% support what you RI guys are doing for the scene...as i was born n raised there

[mkernz22]

The AWD isn't that hard if you can weld
This build thread will really help you out! http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=68701

[LimitedGT4]

nice clip your getting there man comming with alot of goodies...but in all seriousness in a usdm celica compared to the gt4 the whole rear floor pan (from about front of back seats to bumper) is way different to accomodate for the rear differential and subframe connectors as well as beefed up strut towers, i would install the 3sgte as fwd (will need new transmission of course) and i bet you will forget about the awd for a while.....the rhd conversion would be easier then the awd conversion for sure and theres some people who have done this which is done by swapping out firewall and all other stuff from your clip..if you say did the rhd swap before the engine swap well you wouldnt need to get wire harness work done (if that is correct from my research), but if you dont do rhd swap (i wouldnt more hassle imo) you need to send your harness into tweak or some one else who does wire harness's for 'yota engine swaps, unless of course you feel confident enough to do the wireharness work...hell im good with 12v electronics and i wont even mess with a harness due to i dont feel confident i could do it correct without a ton of issues(id rather my swap be as much " plug 'n play" as possible for a swap that is!)...good luck man and i 100% support what you RI guys are doing for the scene...as i was born n raised there

well i dont plan on doing the AWD conversion because i havent found someone crazy enough to convince me to do it lol, and if i was planing on doing it i was planing on gettin the rear undercarrige of the GT4 and CUT & PASTE it lol but i would also need to find a REALLY GOOD WELDER who would be crazy enough to convince me his work will be flawless. in any event thanks for the support, i think my thread might just be one of the quickest conversions ever. my target conversion end date is late may early june

[qtfsniper]

Hey Dude, get a truck and grab that clip already!

[LimitedGT4]

ok guys so i got my front clip, am all excited, now i need someone to help me put the engine in an i got $1000 for the right person if anyone knows anyone that has done a 3sgte swap into a AT200 celica aka 7AFE looking to get this done as soon as possible guys comon who wants to help me out

[Batman722]

got a tranny ?

[LimitedGT4]

got a tranny ?

i need one, cant decide if the GT tranny, the e153 or converting the AWD to FWD i heard its doable, is the 3sge tranny any good also? if it is ill probably go with that

[LimitedGT4]

so i just finished the GT4 front end conversion, now i just need the engine in my car who knows some one or whos done this before? i would like to have the car ready before june 11 :-D lol





This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 14, 2011 - 9:08 PM

[LimitedGT4]

Still looking for a celica mechanic in the RI/MA area to do my swap at least
someone to help me figure out if i have everything i need
So far i got a gt4 full clip with all the parts so i knw ill need a tranny
still not sure whats best if the gt tge 3sge or the mr2 turbo
Besides that do i still need mounts? Or are the ones in the clip sufficient
can i use the same axles if i use the 3sge tranny? what else will i need if i use that tranny
i have all of the jdm components including lights, etc so rewiring the harness will be VERY minimal i think
as i plan to keep all the JDM components i got like the temp control ac, ecu, fuse relay boxes etc,
even the steering column if necessary and doable
if no one can do the swap for me comon guys at least help me finish the list so i can take it to a proshop

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 16, 2011 - 4:45 PM

[LimitedGT4]

Bump

Comon guys dont make me vo to a proshop
If no one wants to help me might aswell just let me know

[Batman722]

ok, some info.
converting the awd tranny to just fwd is not simple.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.
You could use a different tranny (e153) from an MR2 turbo or late 90s Camry/Solara V6, but then you would need a custom axle set up, which would be st185 outers and MR2 turbo inners. Depending on the tranny, the inners may need to be machined to fit correctly. Also, you might want to custom fab a spacer on at least one of the axles, some people have problems without, some don't.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.

Do you plan on doing any sort of maintenance on the motor ? like valve cover gasket, thermostat, plugs, wires, cap/rotor, timing belt, water pump, tensioners, seals ? If so, some of the parts are available in the US, some aren't. Decide what you want to do and start sourcing parts.

Doing a rhd conversion would be a little more time consuming. A few have done it, pipes and jmeyer for example, most don't bother.
You could just cut out the firewall of the clip and your car, weld the clip fw into your car and start swapping everything over like the column, rack, all the brake lines, ect. Then doing the interior you would swap over the wiring, dash, heater core, just everything everything from the clip to your car. Swapping just the climate control without everything else is a pain, some have tried and not many have succeded.

What do you plan on for an exhaust ? what size ? where are you gonna get it or have it done ?

IMO the first thing you need is research.
The best way to do a swap is to know (or al least have a very good idea of) what you need, what you need to do, then buying the motor.

[LimitedGT4]

ok, some info.
converting the awd tranny to just fwd is not simple.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.
You could use a different tranny (e153) from an MR2 turbo or late 90s Camry/Solara V6, but then you would need a custom axle set up, which would be st185 outers and MR2 turbo inners. Depending on the tranny, the inners may need to be machined to fit correctly. Also, you might want to custom fab a spacer on at least one of the axles, some people have problems without, some don't.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.

Do you plan on doing any sort of maintenance on the motor ? like valve cover gasket, thermostat, plugs, wires, cap/rotor, timing belt, water pump, tensioners, seals ? If so, some of the parts are available in the US, some aren't. Decide what you want to do and start sourcing parts.

Doing a rhd conversion would be a little more time consuming. A few have done it, pipes and jmeyer for example, most don't bother.
You could just cut out the firewall of the clip and your car, weld the clip fw into your car and start swapping everything over like the column, rack, all the brake lines, ect. Then doing the interior you would swap over the wiring, dash, heater core, just everything everything from the clip to your car. Swapping just the climate control without everything else is a pain, some have tried and not many have succeded.

What do you plan on for an exhaust ? what size ? where are you gonna get it or have it done ?

IMO the first thing you need is research.
The best way to do a swap is to know (or al least have a very good idea of) what you need, what you need to do, then buying the motor.

Thanks for the advice ive done my reaserch but somethings were still unclear as no one single writeup addresses everythin
As far as the exhaust goes u got a pretty sweet setup but i think ill go for a 3" setup noy sure if the ones being sold for the st205
Are actually any good, anyways the tranny is the thing i cant decide on can someone shed some light on the 3sge tranny ive heard of people doing it
Anyone know how good is it compared to the s54 will i have to get a billion parts to make it work or is it more bolt on
And the reason am interested on using the awd is because i read a writeup that made it seem possible the question would be
Which one would be more cost effective if someone can let me know id appreciate it heres the writeup





from CTech by Torn.


"Im currently converting my AWD tranny that came with the 2nd gen 3sgte I used for my swap.


Converting the AWD to a FWD tranny is not as hard people would think, and when finished, it will be exactly as an MR2 tranny, except with the shifter cables already going in the right direction. Also, with this method, your center differential won't burn since it will be completly removed.


Goodies needed :


-Alltrac tranny.

-GT4 shift cables.

-MR2 turbo differential (open, OEM Toyota VLSD, aftermarket LSD)

-MR2 differential cover.

-Speedometer drive for the differential if it does not come with the diff.

-2 axles seals (optional, but recommended and cheap).

-1 set of alltrac outer axles.

-1 set of inner MR2 axle with passenger axle carrier (get LSD inner axles if going with the OEM Toyota MR2 turbo VLSD unit).

-A puller and access to a press to replace 5th gears on transmission.

-An Alltrac crossmember with the transmission rear mount (or modify your existing one).


I'll try to do a step by step guide (I will really need to post pictures later):


1 - Remove the transfer case by unbolting it from the bellhousing case. Inside this transfer case there is the gear that drives the propeller shaft (that goes to the rear differential). Also there is the center viscous coupling unit. Remove the transfer cases (3 parts) and everything inside. You won't need these anymore.


2 - Open transmission by removing 5th gear case. Remove 5th gears. Remove bellhousing case. Remove shifting forks. Finally you can remove the center/front differential from the bellhousing.


3 - Change drive axle oil seal from the bellhousing if your tranny has high milage (cheap at dealer).


4 - Buy an MR2 differential. I suggest getting an LSD unit, since opening that tranny is a pain and getting LSD with a 3sgte is a must IMHO You either can buy an open MR2 turbo diff, a OEM toyota VLSD diff, or better yet, aftermarket torsen diff. The MR2 differential will work perfectly in the AWD tranny. The bearings will sits nice and thigh.


5 - Remove ring gear from the AWD front/center differential by removing the 16 bolts, and tapping it with a brass hammer (or place a piece of wood and hit it).


6 - Place the ring gear on the MR2 diff, place the 16 bolts.


7 - Order a speedometer drive from Toyota dealer (cost me 80$ can, but I bet you can get a better price than that). Place the speedometer drive on mr2 diff.


8 - Install diff. If your AWD tranny grinds, and you'd like to replace the synchros for not too much, now is a good time to do it.


9 - Re-assemble the tranny: Place the input/output shafts, selecting gear forks, oil cooler lines, bellhousing case, 5th gear, 5th gear cover.


10 - At this point, you'll need the differential cover from the MR2 that will bolt on where you removed the transfer case. You can get this from a toasted MR2 tranny. This cover has the passenger axle seal. Replace it also if worn or old.


11 - Get MR2 turbo inner driveshafts. You need axle with turbo and LSD if using the OEM Toyota VLSD diff. Otherwise, if using open differential or aftermarket LSD (TRD, cusco, etc) use the normal turbo axle. The normal Mr2 turbo non-LSD axle can be modified also to fit the OEM Toyota LSD diff.


12 - You need to make hybrid axles. Use the celica alltrac OUTER axles, and the INNER MR2 axles. The outer axles is those that enters the hub with bearing at the wheels. The inners enters the transmission to plug into the diff. You can separate the outers and inners axles by removing 6 8mm Allenkey bolts.


13 - Install the new alltrac/mr2 hybrid tranny. Use the celica alltrac shifting cables, use either electronic or cable driven speedo by swapping the correct one on tranny. Use 3sgte clutch/flywheel/pressure plate. Place the alltrac/mr2 hybrid axles.


14 - The rear transmission mount will be different. This also happens if you swap the MR2 transmission. You need to get an alltrac crossmember, or modify your existing one (the mount is not at the same place).


15 - Drive

As far as maintenance for the engine not sure i wanna mess with what already works :-/ lol

Any advice is apreciated guys

Ps if some one has a parts list that theyve used and doesnt mind sharing it id appreciate it

[Ted95]

get the s54 tranny (GT tranny) because it will be easier and cheaper to find and it wont be hard to get all the things needed for it, mounts, axels. you can always upgrade to a e153 tranny in the future like i plan to do with my swap.

as for an exhaust, just got to a exhaust shop and have them bend you up a custom exhaust, be alot easier and probably cheaper then trying to find pre-made exhaust.

and deffinately do alot of hw on this stuff, refresh all your gaskets and what not, get the motor ready while its out of the car because its going to add up quick and u dont want to rip your car apart and have it sitting for months like people tend to do. i bought my motor a little over a year ago and im just putting it in now. just go one step at a time, dont rush it.

like i said, my swap has taken over a year now and im glad i took my time with it to make sure i have everything right the first time, and so far, everythings going smooth.

good luck with the research and the swap bro!

[LimitedGT4]

get the s54 tranny (GT tranny) because it will be easier and cheaper to find and it wont be hard to get all the things needed for it, mounts, axels. you can always upgrade to a e153 tranny in the future like i plan to do with my swap.

as for an exhaust, just got to a exhaust shop and have them bend you up a custom exhaust, be alot easier and probably cheaper then trying to find pre-made exhaust.

and deffinately do alot of hw on this stuff, refresh all your gaskets and what not, get the motor ready while its out of the car because its going to add up quick and u dont want to rip your car apart and have it sitting for months like people tend to do. i bought my motor a little over a year ago and im just putting it in now. just go one step at a time, dont rush it.

like i said, my swap has taken over a year now and im glad i took my time with it to make sure i have everything right the first time, and so far, everythings going smooth.

good luck with the research and the swap bro!

thanks for the advice man, but no one has been able to shed any like on the 3sge and the awd to fwd tranny conversion so i think ill jus go with the gt
and am not trying to rush but i dont plan on spending a year to do this i saved up enough ahead of time to be able to do it all at once.
as far as the engine goes its still in the GT4 clip in my backyard ive got all the parts i can think of jus need to pick up the tranny and axles and mounts which am sure i can pick up at a pepboy or autozone or some part shop. and then theres the clutch, lol, i thinl ill go for the act 6 puck since it seems to work for everyone lol
and then i need some frankenstine piece lol that has the outers for the 3sgte and inners for the s54 if am not mistaken. ive done my HW man trust me
thats why am so impatient i got the money the parts and the time since i got a spare car "08 Yaris" lol i just need someone to do the swap and once i find sumone
if im missing anythin ill get it


and my clip looks like this so ppl get an idea of what am talking about

[LimitedGT4]

Anyone in the new england area that has done a 3sgte swap into a celica that wants to make $1,200 just let me know because sad to say thats all am missin for my swap either thator if someone know a garage that i can rent so i can do it myself id appreciate that to como celica family help bring another 3sgte to life

[Culpable04]

1- you need to get your glasses on, and get some reading
2- once you know what's needed get your hands dirty and do this yourself
3- the AWD to FWD conversion is not too hard, I tried it, and the only reason why I failed was becausei rushed it and broke the housing as I didn't follow proper bolting process ( over-torqued onebolt before the case was seated properly )
4- there are great builders / mechanic / entusiast out there, that without a dought will do a great job, but once the car is running the fun begings, you have to work the litte issues out ( every setup has them ) and unless you did your own work, it'll be a very frustrated / expensive or both journey.

bottom line is
GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY and do it yourself


for the AWD to FWD conversion, you need one cover for where the transfer case bolts on on the AWD, a MR2 diff ( lsd prefered ) and misc bolts, that's pretty much it, the rest of the parts that list, are all in your AWD transmission and since you are keeping it FWD, no need to mess with the shift linkage / arms etc. it's time comsuming and it require patience ( as I learned )

[LimitedGT4]

1- you need to get your glasses on, and get some reading
2- once you know what's needed get your hands dirty and do this yourself
3- the AWD to FWD conversion is not too hard, I tried it, and the only reason why I failed was becausei rushed it and broke the housing as I didn't follow proper bolting process ( over-torqued onebolt before the case was seated properly )
4- there are great builders / mechanic / entusiast out there, that without a dought will do a great job, but once the car is running the fun begings, you have to work the litte issues out ( every setup has them ) and unless you did your own work, it'll be a very frustrated / expensive or both journey.

bottom line is
GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY and do it yourself


for the AWD to FWD conversion, you need one cover for where the transfer case bolts on on the AWD, a MR2 diff ( lsd prefered ) and misc bolts, that's pretty much it, the rest of the parts that list, are all in your AWD transmission and since you are keeping it FWD, no need to mess with the shift linkage / arms etc. it's time comsuming and it require patience ( as I learned )

Thanks man i love the support, so if i go with converting the awd to fwd will i use the gt4 transaxles? Or will i need hybrids like for the e153? Is that writeup i found a good guide?

Anyways i feel confident of doing anythin and everythin to my car i know i can do it and work through it what am facing is basically spending alot of money to get all the right tools for the job or paying just about the same to have someone do it :-\ so if at the end of the day ill be in the same place i might as well get someone that knows more and has all the right tools but dont get me wrong if someone offersme some garage space with all the tools for a low price ill do it myself :-D which is what i really want and even if i paid sumone to do it i wanna be involved in the process for the same reason u specified ill know more about my car

[Ted95]

oh well a clip changes alot of things lol. i didnt realize you bought s clip, my bad lol

[LimitedGT4]

So i like the look of my rims but theyre not practical but i fell in love with them when i saw them my first choice was the traditional GTS 5 spoke 16" rims from my old 02 celica (i let that one go with pain in my heart same as my 93 celica im a celi fanatic lmao jajajajaja) anyways. im lovin the staggered look they are 7.5 front 9.5 back if am not mistaken and 18"
so i would like to know if anyone has seen or knows where i can get 17" staggered rims thats fit our lug pattern?

or even 16" although i think they would look weird in 16"

[LimitedGT4]

so while am waiting for the right person to perform my 3sgte swap i decided to do my breaks, u guys tell me what you think







GT Four Hatch for sale





and THIS IS NOT for sale just wanted to show my turbo parts

[mkernz22]

that looks awesome man! i sent you a pm as well

[LimitedGT4]

that looks awesome man! i sent you a pm as well

pm answered

[Batman722]

after you swap how are going to get the car inspected ?

[LimitedGT4]

after you swap how are going to get the car inspected ?

Lol the magic question everyone asks, idk how do others with the swap pass the inspection?

Fortunatly with a fresh new inspection till april of 2013 i wont have to worry till then lol

[Batman722]

most people swap with a 94-95. The 96+ are obd2 and that's a big problem for inspections.

did you convert the tranny yet ?

[LimitedGT4]

most people swap with a 94-95. The 96+ are obd2 and that's a big problem for inspections.

did you convert the tranny yet ?

Aaaaa cool nice to know in that case i still got 2 year maybe ill swap back and swap again who knows thanks for the heads up tho

No i think ill just use the gt tranny and keep the awd in case i wanna use it in the future if making the car awd becomes more popular and easy or i just go crazy and feel like spendin more money and time lol, so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 21, 2011 - 11:45 PM

[Batman722]

ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.

so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it

[Ted95]

ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.

so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it

he has an ST dustin, doesnt he have to do a lil modding to the bay for the GT mounts to fit and use GT cables?

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 22, 2011 - 10:24 AM

[LimitedGT4]

ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.

so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it

thanks, my question was more related to this

"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)"

ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys

i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = GT shifter cables
3sgte disk
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny or 3SGE = GT shifter cables
5sfe/3sge disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny) ??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????
5sfe/3sge throwout bearing
5sfe/3sge alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

1mzfe Solara Tranny = ST205 Cables (GT4)
V6 Camry tranny
1mzfe disk
1mzfe throwout bearing
1mzfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Not sure about the axels needed to run this tranny ?????? ANYONE ANY IDEA ???????[color="#FF0000"][/color]

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 2:48 PM

[LimitedGT4]

.

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 2:18 PM

[Batman722]

thanks, my question was more related to this

"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)"

ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
yes and no, an axle spacer because the pass side axle is too short for some people
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys
you need to buy a new clutch. If you use the GT tranny (s54) then you need or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny
i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = st205 cables and fyi V6 Camry/Solara tranny = e153 also.
3sgte disk
3sgte tob
3sgte alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
just buy an MR2 turbo clutch
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny = GT shifter cables
a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny ??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????
?????????? why in the world would you think it wouldn't be nessessary ??????
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

There is a lot that goes along with swapping, lots of parts to buy, lots of research to do.

[LimitedGT4]

is there anyone that makes the "custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny" ? some one that already knows and
does them alot, just like Dr tweak does the wiring

the research is done all am doing is asking for clarification as no one is perfect and ive read contradiction in different swap write-ups
contradictions that confuse as to all the parts necesary as some say u only need this part and other say you need this and this other
part so excuse me guys if i ask to many questions but because ive done too much research am starting to get confused as many
different opinions are clouding my head

PLEASE DONT SAY DO RESEARCH AGAIN GUYS OR ILL LOSE IT ALL I WANT IS SPECIFICS TO NOT WASTE TIME


THANKS BATMAN FOR ALL YOUR HELP
would you recomend any tranny over the other in term of durability, and what would make the difference between good and GREAT

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 10:18 PM

[Batman722]

here's some info about the clutch
and some info about the axle spacer

[Ted95]

well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 23, 2011 - 11:05 AM

[Fate]

For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).

I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.

[LimitedGT4]

here's some info about the clutch
and some info about the axle spacer

this is useful info

thanks man

ive read most of it tho, the problem i had was reading in other forums and this one
there is differences in opinions and i was trying to sort out through opinion,
recommendations and actual useful info. also this clarification is great

[LimitedGT4]

well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research

yea ive been to that page thats how i knew about the wiring harness and forgive me for not knowing everything thats on the page as i didnt go through every single section to verify absolutely everything he has on the website man.

thanks for pointing it out tho

[LimitedGT4]

For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).

I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.

and theres also that much more useless ones that just bring confusion and misunderstanding
therefore i NEED to ask to clear the confusion that too much reading causes.

its better to get a straight forward answer plus to be honest most of my questions have not been answered in any post and i loo more for opinions than answers as i post what i understand and ask if its rights so nope you better read the post again as you my friend need to read better and not speed read

[LimitedGT4]

ok guys, last topic on the tranny this is whats gonnamke my mind up
so i did some figures to see which one is more reasonable for what am getting


this is a price compare list all prices are roundabouts


Comparison

E-153 mr2 turbo

tranny = 300-750
GT4 shifter cables = have it
3sgte disk = 300-450
3sgte pressure plate=
3sgte flywheel= have it
axles= 200-400 batman said st185/mr2 combo would st205/mr2 combo work? remmbr have a frnt clip
gt4 tranny mount= have it

total = 800-1500



GT tranny or 3SGE = 300
GT shifter cables= ?? 20-50 ??
5sfe/3sge disk kit = 400
3sgte flywheel = have it
5sfe Axels= 200
GT mounts= 250-400
total = 1100-1500


from what im seein the e153 could potentially be more cost effective for me if not the same as the gt tranny

what are your thoughts? did i miss something? my estimates off?

dont need lectures or do research comments, if your not gonna give usefull feedback dont leave any
all i need is verification of my estimates

[Ted95]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

[LimitedGT4]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

[Ted95]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.

[LimitedGT4]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.

yea he already told me st185 alltrac outers, but i would like to know if i could use my st205 outers save some money and time money i can spend elsewhere
plus i wanna transpalnt most of my st205 parts like the discs breaks suspension and anything else to make it as bolt on as possible, maybe i should jus look into the diff between the axles in the st185 and the st205

[Batman722]

no you cannot use the st205 axles, they are completely different and will not work with either tranny.
If you could of used them I would of posted that.

[LimitedGT4]

yea i figured that everythin is worth givin a try tho.
like i said b4 ill jus go with what works, but also trying
to use as many parts off my clip as possible to not
have alot of things left behind so bear with me

what would be the best place to get them? as much as to not get junk parts that will break quick
junkyard? havent heard many possitives new is always better right anyone have good experiences?
forums? might take a while
shop? do they even havem? anyone know? maybe if am lucky theyll have one side? lol
ebay? eeeehhhhhh it works? anything to look out for to get the right part?

the spacer ive read of getting it not much of where or how? any specifics? do i gotta buy somethin else? or is it within the 4 axles?

is non lsd even worth it? lol everyone says go lsd opinions?

ill probably hunt the tranny down by this weekend as well as other parts

what CAN i use out of the awd tranny? cables, rear mount,flywheel? some say you have to get it resurfaced
am i missing somethin?

regular turbo clutch or stage 3 or 6 puck
i know what they do but if i plan on not going up on HP or boost do i really need a 6 puck? probably not dont need a lecture
looking more for experiences of how a stock turbo clutch holds compared to a stage 3 or above

[mkernz22]

Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.

This post has been edited by mkernz22: May 25, 2011 - 9:04 AM

[LimitedGT4]

Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.

I though the rear mount off the gt4 was used for the e153 tranny and the gt4 cables now am confused anyways mike pm me ur number if u dont mind so i can reach u quicker wen i finally get the wing off lol

[Fate]

for the e153, you do in fact use the rear mount off the st205 trans along with the shifter cables.

[LimitedGT4]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

[Ted95]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.

[LimitedGT4]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.

Again friend thanks for the input but read closely and u will see i chose the mr2
Tranny cus it would cost just about the same again my questions are unique
Am not looking for how a stock clutch is ddifferent from an after market or
How tge clutch stages differ and all thati wanna know
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE NOT THEORY OR FACTS EXPERIENCES
Of how the clutch holds up again read closely i said im not going to
Go crazy on boost so im staying at the stock power
Im looking for people that have used the stock clutch and can say its good
Stick with it or it sucks better get an aftermarket u find a post that specifically
Answers my question just link it as batman did and dont say anythin else
Ive obviously looked n i dnt plan to spend or have the time to spend10 hours
For somethin someone can answer in 10 secs

Thanks for your contribution

[Batman722]

I'm out.

[Ted95]

good luck.

[mkernz22]

same man, and my clutch went. can't help you out.

[Culpable04]

i dnt plan to spend or have the time to spend10 hours
For somethin someone can answer in 10 secs

Thanks for your contribution

open wide, spoon is on its way.

the reason why not many have experiences with the stock clutch, is because is a royal pain to replace it after the engine is installed, why run the risk of wanting more power down the road and trashing a brand new clutch because it wasnt desing for that amount of power ? yes, I read you said you dont want more than stock, that's what most people say when swapping their engines, and 3 months later the car starts to feel slow again, and power is a boost controller away.

I may have mis advised you before, reading deeper into your answers, you should keep looking for someone to do it for you that's if you want the car to run again. unless you are willing to spend countless hours reading and reading and then doing some reading, you better get that checkbook ready.

This post has been edited by Culpable04: May 27, 2011 - 1:14 AM

[Culpable04]

BTW, I sent you a PM with something you are looking for, that's how unfriendly and unhelpful we are around here

[LimitedGT4]

thanks man this is all i asked

now i know.


This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jun 11, 2011 - 6:34 PM

[LimitedGT4]

woooooo, the MEET at CSP wat GREAT if you missed it you missed it

anyways, some pics

[Ted95]

it was def a good time bro, and im really likein those break brotha lol

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jun 11, 2011 - 9:40 PM

[LimitedGT4]

something i did to my lights

sorry mike had to do it they look amazing man hope urs come out the same

so i asked mike, Mike how did you open your headlights? and he said boilem so i did


then i opened them like a clam and took a peak


took off the bezel and painted them black me like

[mkernz22]

Mine look the same! I did all 4 My low beams look amazing with the accent lights in them

[Ted95]

wow thats some nice work man, makes me think a lil

[LimitedGT4]

sooo today i pulled my ECU and this is what i found




for those that know u know and thos that dont google it its a quick wikipedia or check the link below

http://www.rpmgarage.com/new/detail/?tid=11224

[mkernz22]

aren't you f*cking lucky!!!

[LimitedGT4]

dude if i ever decide to build another celica ITS FULL FRONT CLIP ALL THE WAY DEFINITELY WORTH EVERY PENNY paid 3500 got parts upwards of 6000


ok so found this on a forum


if you google 89661 2b840, you will note that this is a hacked '94 / '95 JDM ST205 ecu.

essentially like all these types of pnp ECU, it will have a raised RPM and boost cut and will run best of high octane fuel. It is not re-mappable and only good for light breathing mods eg exhaust & flter


NOTE:

# You DO NOT need an uprated fuel pump eg walbro 255 lph or equivalent. (This will casue overfuelling, despite having a FPR)

# You DO need a ST205 or SW20 rev3 3sgte denso fuel pump @ 225 lph.

# You DO need ST205 / SW20 540cc low impedance side feed injectors.

# You DO need ST205 electronics: MAP sensor, igniter, IAT etc




ill take a wild guess that being that the car was running with this ecu i probably have all the parts the engine needs to accomodate this ecu but they say not to use a walboro pump, who knows more about this ecu ill continue to research THIS IS PART OF MY RESEARCH LOL j/k but any input is appreciated,

only want to know about the walboro fuel pump overfeeding

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jun 17, 2011 - 8:56 PM

[Ted95]

thats sickk bro good for you man!

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jun 18, 2011 - 12:35 AM

[NYp8tBaller07]

Sweet treasure you found there Arrrrr!

[presure2]

wow.
what a thread.
now, i must admit, i havent looked at this thread really at all untill this morning, but from meeting you at CSP, i definetly wouldnt have thought you'd be this rude.

these guys are telling you to research over and over for a REASON.
you want everything spoon fed for you, like stevenson said, but even if we do spoon feed you, your still gonna be lost when it actually comes time to DO somthing, cause you arnt actually LEARNING anything.
these guys that are telling you all this stuff are guys who HAVE done the research, and taken the time to learn how to and perform theyre own swaps.
youve met cam, ask him what he has gone thru over the past YEAR researching his swap, then ask him how hard reality slapped him in the face when it came time to actually DO it.
without the help of dustin and steff, he would have been LOST, and not because he didnt research and take the time...its because he's never done it. like you.
untill you've actually done somthing, all this talk is just that, talk, but the more you actually take the time to do the research and learn as much as you can now, the more prepared you'll be when you run into the little hiccups that come with ANY swap.
if you cant handle that, you better be prepared to spend ALOT of money to do things twice, and expect lots of problems along the way.
good luck.

[RabidTRD]

something i did to my lights

sorry mike had to do it they look amazing man hope urs come out the same

so i asked mike, Mike how did you open your headlights? and he said boilem so i did

Did you hold them in there the whole time or just dunk them? I've been planning on painting the bezels for a while now and just haven't gotten around to doing it. I've heard of the baking method, but I'm scared the rubber may melt. Please advise.

How do they look on your car?

[LimitedGT4]

something i did to my lights

sorry mike had to do it they look amazing man hope urs come out the same

so i asked mike, Mike how did you open your headlights? and he said boilem so i did

Did you hold them in there the whole time or just dunk them? I've been planning on painting the bezels for a while now and just haven't gotten around to doing it. I've heard of the baking method, but I'm scared the rubber may melt. Please advise.

How do they look on your car?

After the water is boiling just dip tyem for about a minute or so and see if its easy to pry them off if its a lil to hard still dippem again until they are easy to work with and ill upload a picture wen i get on but they look nice

[RabidTRD]

The sudden heat doesn't crack the lens? That's all I'm worried about.

[LimitedGT4]

The sudden heat doesn't crack the lens? That's all I'm worried about.

Cant guarantee that but i can say it didnt happren to me

[mkernz22]

No it won't, mine were completely fine. You just have to let the glass cool a little bit before prying otherwise you can chip off little pieces of the glass. I know from experience on an extra head light that I had.

[RabidTRD]

I'll start off with an extra that I have as well and see what I can do. Trying to figure out if I want to tackle that tonight or not haha.

[LimitedGT4]

wow.
what a thread.
now, i must admit, i havent looked at this thread really at all untill this morning, but from meeting you at CSP, i definetly wouldnt have thought you'd be this rude.

these guys are telling you to research over and over for a REASON.
you want everything spoon fed for you, like stevenson said, but even if we do spoon feed you, your still gonna be lost when it actually comes time to DO somthing, cause you arnt actually LEARNING anything.
these guys that are telling you all this stuff are guys who HAVE done the research, and taken the time to learn how to and perform theyre own swaps.
youve met cam, ask him what he has gone thru over the past YEAR researching his swap, then ask him how hard reality slapped him in the face when it came time to actually DO it.
without the help of dustin and steff, he would have been LOST, and not because he didnt research and take the time...its because he's never done it. like you.
untill you've actually done somthing, all this talk is just that, talk, but the more you actually take the time to do the research and learn as much as you can now, the more prepared you'll be when you run into the little hiccups that come with ANY swap.
if you cant handle that, you better be prepared to spend ALOT of money to do things twice, and expect lots of problems along the way.
good luck.

i probably deserve that
and i didnt mean to disrespect anyone if i did
specially not dustin cus he has been nothing but help to me as well

but to be fair manny ive seen a few posts where ppl just throw the "do research" bit around as a joke, like one post where a guy goes " i got this one do research lol"
now thats rude as well

if we wanna grow as a community if u think someone isnt ready to do a swap we should ask him what does he think he know to see if hes ready
and no am no mechanic and i dont use technical words there for i use terms like frankestein peice given that its a clutch made for the 3sgte to work with the s54 and also other forums just confuse the **** out of me because everyone post things as they understand them and their not necessarily mechanics or technicians so confusion arises

[qtfsniper]

Went and saw the car today. Awesome progress.

[LimitedGT4]

Small update broke the pass axle need another one asap anyone has any please let me know i need one badly
and yes am 3sgte already didnt post any progress pics cus no one thought i could do it but while drivin today car was a lil funky and then blaaaa axle was done





View My Video

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jul 3, 2011 - 1:47 PM

[mkernz22]

What tranny are you using? If it's the s54, just buy a new one at autozone. Be sure to bring in the old one when you buy it so you can get the core back on it. I think it was about $80 after the core was taken off.

[LimitedGT4]

What tranny are you using? If it's the s54, just buy a new one at autozone. Be sure to bring in the old one when you buy it so you can get the core back on it. I think it was about $80 after the core was taken off.

I need the st185 outers for my e153 dont feel like goin to autozone bit i will if i cant find one soon

[LimitedGT4]

So my axles jus keep poppin out
Used a spacer
Longer axle from camry
Longer axle plus spacers
Keeps poppin out
Tryna get an axle carrier but everywhere i go no one seems to know what it is lol
Havent been able to enjoy my car for more than a few mins at a time lol

any suggestions anyone?

[Batman722]

is the snap ring on ?
that's the only thing holding the pass side axle in the tranny.

[LimitedGT4]

Dnt think any of the 2 passanger stubs i have got a snapring went to a couple parts stores and no one knows wat they are lol

[mkernz22]

Wait so you need the carrier bracket for the axle? I might have one, not sure though. I'll check tomorrow.

[Needles]

So my axles jus keep poppin out
Used a spacer
Longer axle from camry
Longer axle plus spacers
Keeps poppin out
Tryna get an axle carrier but everywhere i go no one seems to know what it is lol
Havent been able to enjoy my car for more than a few mins at a time lol

any suggestions anyone?

did u use spacer on each side ?
i had hard time whit these front hybrid axle and now i need to bring back my passenger cause the rubber crack all around and grease went away.
how big was the spacer u put there ?
it logically cannot pop out if there is spacer enought big...


(dont drive whitout carrier axle )

This post has been edited by Needles: Jul 10, 2011 - 10:32 AM

[Batman722]

you need the axle carrier from the turbo MR2.

The set up is similar to the 5s but you need the MR2 part.
The carrier bolts to the back of the block and the axle has a bearing on it that clips into the carrier with a snap ring.

[LimitedGT4]

Lol am tryna get one wth no luck guess ill have to hit the junkyards sucks that i aint got time all week to goto them if anyone has a spare one let me know

Lol funny thing i asked a friend who has an mr2 turbo and i asked him about the carrier and he said he didnt remember havin one on his car n that really confused the sh*t out of me

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jul 10, 2011 - 1:29 PM

[Needles]

whitout the carrier u can move the axle a little bit, i noticed when i swapped, it maybe can damage the teeth of the axle...in some kind of way

[LimitedGT4]

Yea i know i had a carrier it jus ended up being the wrong one so now i need the mr2

[LimitedGT4]

SO my axle stubs look like this no snapring on the tip only a Cap ring? i guess it can be called

and YES

the cap ring IS ON (dont know if thats the proper name as it looks like a cap)




guess the problem is the axle carrier

outside of damaging the axle stub which i have a spare for i guess i could also mess up the
differential i guess or should i not worry about that?


AXLE CARRIER NEEDED ASAPPPPPPPPPPPP JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

anyone knows if theyr easy to find in junkyards or is that one of those parts they usually dispose of



This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jul 10, 2011 - 12:48 PM

[qtfsniper]

I couldn't remember if I had a carrier or not. most of the stuff I do is on the driver side. That doesn't have one for sure since it's too short but I do remember a snap ring near my spare engine on the ground. I'll try and source you an axle carrier. I know a local, dan, on the mr2oc parting out his car this weekend. Oh. and were BOTH axles popping out? were those the two axle inners I sold you?They don't look familiar(all trying to remember from memory so i might be wrong) They should have a groove for a snap ring. They look like this. You could see the ring that I'm talking about. These are e153 inners

This post has been edited by qtfsniper: Jul 10, 2011 - 1:28 PM

[LimitedGT4]

dont remember the driver side but passanger side is like pic, the one i got from u and the one from the junkyard are like the pic i posted and after u mentioned the snapring i started wondering y i didnt remember seeing one and its because its like that,

anyways thanks Treit for helpin me with the carrier

an no only the passanger it jus pops out enough to lose grip from the diff



This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: Jul 10, 2011 - 1:25 PM

[qtfsniper]

just waiting for a reply from Dan. He's in worcestor