 Hoodspoiler, Did you guys have it? |
 Dec 9, 2003 - 6:05 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%)  |
Ok,
I just wanted to ask, do you guys in US have somthing like this on your hood??? Cuz from the few post i read, i understud that you dont have anything like this.. If so, i just found another difference between USDM and EURO celicas    
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Dec 9, 2003 - 7:07 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '02 From local petrol station!, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeah i got one
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Dec 9, 2003 - 7:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I think you mis somthing  YOU ARE FROM UK, so we have not only hoodspoilers but 3S-GE and 3S-GTE 
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Dec 9, 2003 - 7:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '02 From local petrol station!, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sorry - i thought it was a general question - didn't read the whole thing! In england i don't think the ST got the hood-spoiler. problem is we didn't get beams engine, but can't really complain.
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Dec 9, 2003 - 11:01 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the hood spoiler is not available in the US...
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Dec 9, 2003 - 2:03 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '03 From DEN HAAG / NETHERLANDS Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
got 1
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Dec 9, 2003 - 2:07 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Natalie's car with the GT-Four hood and bumper has one, but I don't think I've ever seen a stock USDM hood with that spoiler on it.
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Dec 9, 2003 - 2:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how much hp does it add?
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Dec 9, 2003 - 2:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
at least 20 from what I've read.
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Dec 9, 2003 - 3:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No USDM cars came with them... the only cars that they came on were JDM WRC ST205's and ALL ST205's in the UK. A lot of Euro ST20x's also came with them.
In case you didn't know, the purpose of the spoiler is to keep the hood from flexing at ultra high-speeds.
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Dec 9, 2003 - 3:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From United Kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
UK spec ST has the hood spoiler ! JDM don't . Also if you have a hood spoiler your washer jets will have a higher profile!
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Dec 9, 2003 - 3:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That's what I said in my previous post... the ONLY JDM 6th gens that had them were the WRC ST205's. This post has been edited by kuya1284: Dec 9, 2003 - 3:57 PM |
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Dec 9, 2003 - 4:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '03 From Toronto, Ontario, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i want one!
Where can I get it?! |
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Dec 9, 2003 - 8:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
you have to get the gt4 hood 1st! -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Dec 9, 2003 - 10:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not disagreein here but I had heard it was to help keep the wipers stable at high speeds.. I guess one of the drivers for toyota in the WRC was b*tchen about the air causing turbulence makin the wipers move, but I could be wrong on that just kinda remember reading that somewhere --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Dec 9, 2003 - 11:51 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
That may be true as well, but I've also read that it's there to keep the hood from flexing as much under high speeds. The engineers noticed that the hood would sometimes flex, sometimes alarmingly bad, so some cars have the wing there in order to strengthen the hood.
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Dec 10, 2003 - 4:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
He he, another difference from USDM celicas to EURO
And yup, my washers are so high that and i hate the looks of them... And the purpose for that spoiler is to keep your wiper down on the frontglass at speeds And another thing... Not only ST205 came with it in europe, all the celicas ST;GT; GT4 have them
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Dec 10, 2003 - 5:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, I said that too in my post above... but I said ST20x As for the purpose of the bonnet spoiler, where did you get that info from? Because according to my sources, Toyota discovered that when the car traveled at 250 km/h or higher, the bonnet would flex. As a result, it was added for additional downforce. I would like to gather as much info on this as possible so that we could all come to the correct conclusion. EDIT: Oh, I forgot to provide the link, which I'm sure a lot of you have probably seen by now. This site is what I used to identify and confirm that my clip was a WRC. I believe this guy, Dan, who posts on GT4OC.com, has done all his homework and intensive research. I trust his word. http://www.st205.net The information can be found specifically on http://www.st205.net/techinfo/wrcornot.htm This post has been edited by kuya1284: Dec 10, 2003 - 5:08 AM |
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Dec 10, 2003 - 5:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Ya know there i got that info from, i just made some research (accidently ) After repainting i didnt put it on my car of the hurry, and after the 120 km/h my wiper started to wave, so i satrted to look for the proble solution, and i found that i was missing somthing After i added it, everything came back to normal... So thats why i said that it purpose was to keem the wipers down Maybe im wrong, but thats what happend to me
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Dec 10, 2003 - 12:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That's interesting Doggy. Maybe the spoiler serves multiple purposes. What I find odd tho is that I drive that fast all the time and never notice my wipers waving. I'll see if I can contact some reliable people on some GT-FOUR forums and find all possible reasons behind the spoiler. NOTE to us Yankees: 120 KM/H = 75 MPH Thanks Doggy... This post has been edited by kuya1284: Dec 10, 2003 - 12:13 PM |
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Dec 11, 2003 - 9:46 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
my understanding of it was as kuya said...helps to stop hood flex at high speed
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Dec 12, 2003 - 12:18 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
All the purposes of the hood spoiler you guys mentioned make total sense. Helicopters have something called a trim tab...it's a longer portion of the trailing edge of the main rotor blade. Without that minute tab sticking out, the helicopter wouldn't be able to fly right. And also the tail rotor pylon has a slight bent in the rear fairing. I didn't know what it was for but when I went to school, I learned that the slight degree bent will help keep the helicopter flying straight in case of loss of tail rotor torque...without that unuseful looking bent, it would spin like a top
So little things make a big difference...like that hood spoiler
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Dec 12, 2003 - 6:50 PM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
lagos...heres the PT # for it...
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Dec 13, 2003 - 12:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
cool thanks for the part number.
if its cheap and comes prepainted then ill get it, if not then **** it! it does make a lot of sense tho. the gt4 hood is a lot lighter then the stock gt hood. i could see how it could use some extra support. one of my friends calims that the gt4 hood is also mostly made of plastic (or at least the bottom of the hood). i kind of think that he may be partly right because the hood is so light. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Dec 13, 2003 - 8:57 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the hood is all metal..exactly what, im not sure, but your right, the damn thing sure is light!(compared to the stock 204 one..) but anyway, the hoodspoiler dont come painted lagos,....but being black , and how small it is...i can see it costing more than a few dollars to have done..
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Dec 13, 2003 - 11:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
your probably right, but if you tap on the bottom part of the hood, it dosnt sound like metal at all.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 11:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
ok, i called up toyotaworld.com. the part is 59$, but they said it was discontinued and can no longer be ordered.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 11:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
toysport can get them but be prepared to wait... along time
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Dec 13, 2003 - 1:28 PM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
yup...neverstop is right...toysport CAN get them...but it'll take aWHILE..
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Dec 13, 2003 - 4:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think toysport has one in stock...because when I ordered my hood and bumper I didn't buy the hood spoiler...damn them, they won't send me my turn signals.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 4:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
**** toysport.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 4:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's damn light because it's an aluminum hood. 
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Dec 13, 2003 - 6:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
YEP... And because of that factor, when 96 Turbo ST send it to me, the shippers dropped the box and it came with a 30 degree bent in the front and the two sharp corners in the back bent at almost 90 degrees. Is it repairable, Ray? It's been a while since they shipped it so it's useless trying to claim insurance so late.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 8:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '03 From South Central Los Angeles and Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
DAAAAAMMMMNNNNN i really need to get that thing back!!!!! Mine flew off when this STUPID honda owner TRIED to race me   on the freeway. And i only got up to 100mph... BUT SOMEONE PLEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE tell that there HAS to be someone else but ToySH*T to get that part?? how about Mike, Qatar11?? David {edit} i forgot to mention it flew off b/c i only had 2 of the screws on....
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Dec 13, 2003 - 9:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I could probably find someone to get it toyceli8. I found some contacts that are getting me new parts for cheap like the curren taillights.
Anyways. I will ask a few sources. Maybe we can get a group buy on it????even though its pretty much discontinued. |
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Dec 13, 2003 - 9:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Do you have a picture of the damage? My hood got damaged also during shipping, but only on one corner. The body shop just bent it back. It was so minor that it was repairable. Now in your case, it depends on how serious the damage is. I hope that it was insured, cuz if it was, the shipping company should be responsible... but you needed to make the claim when you picked it up. |
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Dec 13, 2003 - 10:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
you can replace the hood from toyota for about $350.
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Dec 13, 2003 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '03 From South Central Los Angeles and Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So wait this is the part number for the hood spoiler?? i need it ASAP!!! before my car is out of the shop... David |
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Dec 14, 2003 - 8:23 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
yup thats the PT # dave,..
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