Sep 26, 2011 - 5:11 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
What would be the best shell to start a drift car?
toyota, the ae86 but is this just because its a legend? not a supra, cant afford one. too expensive. and the older ones are too heavy. also not a convertible. for obvious reasons. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Sep 26, 2011 - 10:49 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 20, '08 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Ae's don't have enough power to be competitive unless you sr or equivalent swap them, IMO.
S chassis is easiest, cheapest, bossest, again IMO. There are conversion kits for any swap you'd want: LSx, sr, rb, 1jz, 2jz, ca18, ka24, old chevy 350 if that floats your boat, etc. Tons of aftermarket support. TONS!! I'm personally going to build a 1jz s14 for drifting, just gotta do a couple other things in life real quick. -------------------- 2006 BMW 330i - 6 Speed - Dinan Stage 1
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Sep 27, 2011 - 12:12 AM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
What would be the best shell to start a drift car? toyota, the ae86 but is this just because its a legend? not a supra, cant afford one. too expensive. and the older ones are too heavy. also not a convertible. for obvious reasons. F*ck you :'(, FC!!! This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 27, 2011 - 12:57 AM |
Sep 27, 2011 - 12:13 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 27, '06 From Soda Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (91%) |
240sx or ae86.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 12:38 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 24, '07 From Oahu, Hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
Cressida
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Sep 27, 2011 - 4:16 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
A S chassis with a simple sr20det or rb with stiff coilovers. Easy.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 6:32 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
sorry but Supra MK II is the lightest of the Supras
MK II Curb weight 1,361 kg (3,000 lb MK III 1,537 kg (3,389 lb) (manual) 1,595 kg (3,516 lb) (automatic) MK IV 1,460 kg (3,219 lb) (non-turbo) 1,550 kg (3,417 lb) {turbo} that said, the very best car to start drifitng is the cheapest one you can get, try to find one that someone elses has gotten somewhat ready for drifitng for very cheap, chances are this car wont survive the learning process ( assuming you take this serious ) so just find something cheap to learn on, then you can look around for whatever you would love drift on. if I was to do it, I would focus on an MK II, P type, they come with LSD, 5mge with around 180 which is enough power to get the tires lose but not too much to become an issue with a beginner, and if for some miracle I dont crash the car or dont bend the chassis banging it on every wall lol, a 2jz fits right in. -------------------- ![]() |
Sep 27, 2011 - 12:40 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Stevenson, gtf off wikipedia..You are right, but those numbers are grossly off.
Supras=not drift cars.....Drift cars IMO are usually: -Pretty lightweight(under 3k) -Have appeared in Initial D -Have a large drifter support of people to tell you your jdm sticker and yellow fogs are mad tyte y0 -Able to be pushed to their limits without fear of hurting the car(ie beater) -Aren't luxury cars to start with(supra IS, weather you think so or not, 240sx are not) -Obviously rwd and NA This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 27, 2011 - 12:44 PM |
Sep 27, 2011 - 1:25 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 20, '09 From Winnipeg Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Suprakid, howcome you say an NA car would make a better drift platform?
Just curious. -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Sep 27, 2011 - 1:58 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
MX83 Cressida.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 2:11 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Suprakid, howcome you say an NA car would make a better drift platform? Just curious. Throttle response is the only thing I can think of. Most cheap drift cars (i.e. 240SX) benefit from a turbo. Breaks the tires loose faster. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Sep 27, 2011 - 2:37 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 4, '06 From Chicagoland Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
MX83 Cressida. This. Buy a roller and drop in an N/A 2j along with Supra MK3 tranny and LSD End up with this: Use it like this:
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Sep 27, 2011 - 3:25 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 30, '11 From Albany, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
rx7 either gen1 or 3
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Sep 27, 2011 - 4:19 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 20, '09 From Winnipeg Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
^If you can afford to blow the motor up all the time.
-------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Sep 27, 2011 - 5:50 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
S chassis would be my ideal starting point.. they're inexpensive, lightweight, decent wheelbase, low center of gravity (especially on coilovers), lots of aftermarket support and an abundance of spare parts for cheap which you'll need since you'll literally be abusing the **** out of it.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 6:45 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 30, '11 From Albany, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
^If you can afford to blow the motor up all the time. people blow motors because they are retards, rotaries have been proved time and time again in both WRC and 24 hour le mans. The key is to keep the oil and water temps cold, and open the exhaust fully. uncle had an rx7 and drove it year round with no problems. All it takes is a little research and its fantastic. I understand many people dont like them but they are great motors and are just as reliable as anything else. -------------------- ![]() Power in Balance 90 ST coupe- Sold 95 ST hatch- Dead :’( 02 Impreza RS- DD |
Sep 27, 2011 - 7:13 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 15, '02 From Tasmania(Australia) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Any S chassis nissan
Import a JZX90 or JZX100 mark II or chaser, already: 1jz-gte, manual and lsd. Lots of people in aus drift KE70 corollas (or ae71), but your in the same situation as an AE86. The chassis is fine, but the suspension needs a lot of work to be viable. And as far as the engine goes dropping in a 4a-gze or a 4a-ge 20 valve with a turbo would do. Or a CA, SR, 3s, 1j, 2j, RB, LS1 This post has been edited by Cuts_the_Pilot: Sep 27, 2011 - 7:17 PM -------------------- ST205 Group A Rallye GT-Four, #61 of 77............600hp GT3582r
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Sep 27, 2011 - 9:19 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
would a mki mr2 be something to modify?
andrew, i dont hate supras, they are just too big for that. would be great to import a chaser... sometimes i think maybe modify a 1st gen celica.... its just something crazy that came up the other day... an ae86 would be a great start... but idk.... Nissans sound good... ill just keep this in mind. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Sep 27, 2011 - 9:37 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
any mid engine car would be a very steep learning curve.
they are not too popular on drifting. not a bad deal here there was another one for a similar price, original owner, who moved from Texas less than a year ago, red, totally stock, but can't find it, is probably sold by now -------------------- ![]() |
Sep 27, 2011 - 9:44 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 15, '09 From yonkers, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Don't know if you ever seen this but i found it and thought it had some good info its very basic on drifting itself if you seen it then never mind
http://youtu.be/eLDejTKH388 but i mean Keiichi Tsuchiya FTW - i got the "drifting bible" but haven't gotten around to watching it definetly a good thing to look over if you have some time to kill also good luck i still think drifting is pretty sick if its done right. -------------------- *Thing i want for my car(i wish i had money)*
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Sep 27, 2011 - 9:45 PM
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Sep 27, 2011 - 9:47 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I hate to be a killjoy, but as much as i LOVE drifting, and am the only FWD car in my crew (TEAMR4D.COM) I would have to say drifting is a BIIIG MONEY PIT. you abuse your car, break it, and pay pay pay to fix. i know its cheap, but money is money.
THEN you have to pay 50-125 dollars just to drift at a sanctioned event (ie a large parking lot) in charlotte there are two drift series one is streetwise drift (streetwisedrift.com) and koss motorsports (kossmotorsports.com) sorry enough of my rant. I would have to say (and as much as i HATE HATE HATE looking like EVERYONE ELSE) The 240 platform is the way to go hands down. after spending like 4 years involved in this and hanging out with drifters, ive seen that rotaries are a pain in the ass and are never running right, AE86's like every other toyota will BUTT RAPE you for parts, and would you really want to import a car to beat on it? anyway, sorry to be negative, but go for the 240 norberto! with your genius you can get a good shell for like 800-900 and go to town! or you can get a beat up one with a KA in it for like 1200 or so. KA motors are great to start with and as everyone said before have A TON of aftermarket support. nissan 240.... the NEW HONDA CIVIC -------------------- |
Sep 28, 2011 - 2:31 AM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 12, '06 From Fresno CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i drift my ae86 i won't drift any other car but thats my cup of tea.
IMO i think the best is a 240sx,very cheap to buy and common parts to find alot of power for the price.perfect for learning.Beware drifting puts alot of wear and tear,so be ready to have extra cash after drifting. But if you really want an AE86 from my experience their alot of fun and tough.Im running a blue top 4age.alot of clutch kicking and pretty much keeping your gas peddle pin.A LSD is a must.Swap are great for more power.i live in california so im kinda stuck with a 4age and my AE86 is a daily driver.But it best to learn off a stock car to get the feel of it.then spend to your preference. -------------------- |
Sep 30, 2011 - 10:42 AM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Use it like this: ![]() Lol monkey. You have to do the monkey too btw. -------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. ![]() *ASE Certified General Manager |
Sep 30, 2011 - 12:41 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
i would love to have a drift car, but where in the he.. would i do it. and 125 a pop plus materials sounds like going to college.. maybe in the futre, one of my ra24 will soon see that...
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Sep 30, 2011 - 1:37 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 12, '06 From Fresno CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
well im sure theirs events held in your arena,i only drift at the events.you might just have to look online.
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Sep 30, 2011 - 3:23 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 20, '08 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Events in my area still have entry fees.
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Sep 30, 2011 - 6:39 PM
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http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80909
if this doesn't make u wanna modify ur 1st gen then idk what will -------------------- ![]() *1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS *1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser *2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost 2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun. |
Oct 1, 2011 - 3:21 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
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Oct 1, 2011 - 12:35 PM
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The only point in which the tires weren't billowing mass amounts of smoke was when the car was at a standstill. So awesome. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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