WHICH WHEEL SHOULD I GET Options

[babi_boi]

Having a little trouble deciding on which wheel I should purchase. Please help by picking one or the other.

WHEEL A


WHEEL B


I know the they are similar, just not sure exactly which one.
Let me know your thoughts. Thank You.

[trdproven]

I mean honestly...none of the two.

Is that your style or did you need recommendations. Sorry I just go for the known Japanese styles. There's many wheel threads.

But honestly the two wheels look almost the same so I don't really have any option to pick which is better of the two.

[SwissFerdi]

The top one seems chrome to me, so no on that one...and the other one looks a bit too muscle for the Celi. Neither. But of the of two, the latter.

[bigb1970]

there both nasty

[Neon90424]

ew

[kurt95gt]

If I had to pick between them wheel a
but honestly they don't look right for a celica to me
but its your car to do as you wish

[babi_boi]

I called a wheel place and told them I wanted either a 15 or 16 inch wheel. I would like the wheel to kinda have the deep dish look to it. Also the wheel must be flush with my body line. I dont want a super lot of spokes. If I did I would get wire wheels. I dont really know if I like the options they gave me. That is why I started this topic. If ANYBODY knows anything better than what I was given to choose from, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ALL SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME. hopefully I can find something better than these 2.

[808celica]

what's your budget? XXR 962 might be a nice option

[babi_boi]

what's your budget? XXR 962 might be a nice option

I wont be actually ordering the rims for a couple months. Thats why I started looking now. So that way I can try to get exactly what I want. So budget is not really a problem.

[808celica]

Motegi M221 TRAKLITE or MR122
Enkei Evo5
TSW Volcano
MR2217 TRAKLITE 2PC
Volk Gram Light 57
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SSR Type F
Volk Rays CE28
Work Emotion XD9
Work CR Kai
SSR SP1

[Neon90424]

if you dont feel like dropping 2k on wheels you can always get Rota's

[Neon90424]

if you dont feel like dropping 2k on wheels you can always get Rota's

[SwissFerdi]

^ Or don't, and buy proper wheels.

Take advantage of the few months you have, and buy a set at a good price online, where you'll likely find the best deal. Screw that wheel shop if that's their recommendation.

[HectortheRican]

I say neither - unless you're going for a DUB look, which I don't think our Celicas can pull off very well. There are plenty of great wheels out there; if you're looking for cheap, Rota, Drag, and XXR are decent options and if you're looking for pricier shoes, Enkei, RAYS, and SSR, among many others, are great.

[babi_boi]

Ok, Thank you everybody for the coments. I will look into the wheels posted. Please keep the suggestions coming

[808celica]

what's your budget? XXR 962 might be a nice option

I wont be actually ordering the rims for a couple months. Thats why I started looking now. So that way I can try to get exactly what I want. So budget is not really a problem.

if you dont feel like dropping 2k on wheels you can always get Rota's

I don't think he's doing a cheap parts build on this car

^ Or don't, and buy proper wheels.

Take advantage of the few months you have, and buy a set at a good price online, where you'll likely find the best deal. Screw that wheel shop if that's their recommendation.

Lolz yeah If a shop's recommendations are those then they aren't really doing their job properly

I say neither - unless you're going for a DUB look, which I don't think our Celicas can pull off very well. There are plenty of great wheels out there; if you're looking for cheap, Rota, Drag, and XXR are decent options and if you're looking for pricier shoes, Enkei, RAYS, and SSR, among many others, are great.

Remember now cheaper wheels crack easy and they just copy designs from the other guys

Ok, Thank you everybody for the coments. I will look into the wheels posted. Please keep the suggestions coming

babi_boi I DO recommend lowering the car first before upgrading rim sizes, atleast that way you can see what your max tire/wheel size will be before you have any other issues

and watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeFB6SRslk...feature=related

This post has been edited by 808celica: Dec 5, 2011 - 4:27 AM

[babi_boi]

"I don't think he's doing a cheap parts build on this car"

No I am not going for whatever is cheapest. I want my car to be done right. WITH GOOD QUALITY. I would rather pay a little extra to ensure good quality and get what I want vs. paying as little as possible and getting something that wont last and has bad quality.






"Lolz yeah If a shop's recommendations are those then they aren't really doing their job properly"

The bad part about this is when I first told the lady what I wanted, she said they didn't have anything at all. I had to wait a day or 2 for them to find the wheels I posted. And they still aren't what I wanted.






"babi_boi I DO recommend lowering the car first before upgrading rim sizes, atleast that way you can see what your max tire/wheel size will be before you have any other issues"

Come this february I plan to take the car off the road again. During the time she is off the road I plan to redo my suspension. As well as some engine work, and possibly some side skirts, front and rear splitters, and maybe a new hood.

[Neon90424]

cast vs forged wheel arguement I guess...

150 dollars a wheel vs 500$ a wheel..to each his own I guess.

[babi_boi]

cast vs forged wheel arguement I guess...

150 dollars a wheel vs 500$ a wheel..to each his own I guess.

Not really an arguement, I have no problem buying cheap wheels, (price wise). I just want good quality. If I have to spend a little extra to get a better quality wheel than that is what I am going to do. I would rather spend a little extra the first time and get a good quality wheel, and have it last. VS. Buy a cheap wheel (quality wise) and have it break in a couple months. Then I have to do the whole process over again. Just makes more sense to me to do it right the first time.

However, I am still looking for a set of wheel that will go good on my celica. Thank you everybody for your comments and suggestions. PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING.

So far I think I like the "Volk Rays CE28" the best. Any opinions about this wheel would be great.

[jordisonjr]

They look sick.
I believe there is a white gt four with those in a bronze color on 6gc somewhere, not sure the name though.

[babi_boi]

They look sick.
I believe there is a white gt four with those in a bronze color on 6gc somewhere, not sure the name though.

Yes I have seen it. If anybody knows whos it is please have them post on this thread and let me know their thoughts about this wheel. Is it a good quality wheel. What size tires are they using and what they are using for the lowering system. Thank you

EDIT: I found the white Celica again, It belongs to Rob A.

This post has been edited by babi_boi: Dec 6, 2011 - 11:59 AM

[my94st]

Neither, as long as the bolt pattern is 5x100 you can go bigger than 16. I'v got 17s and could easily run 18s. For the flush look, go for a rim with an offset around +25mm. This will allow the rim to become closer to flush, and can pull off the deep dish lip. I love the look of bronze rims on a white celica, chrome don't get you home.

[my94st]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...#ht_2465wt_1270
just found these ones, they're at a good price and they have a nice deep dish and the offset is +35 which will bring it somewhat flush. I'm selling my old rims to buy these ones actually. If your interested in my 17x7.5 motegi FF7 rims look them up and let me know.

[babi_boi]

Neither, as long as the bolt pattern is 5x100 you can go bigger than 16. I'v got 17s and could easily run 18s. For the flush look, go for a rim with an offset around +25mm. This will allow the rim to become closer to flush, and can pull off the deep dish lip. I love the look of bronze rims on a white celica, chrome don't get you home.

I did have a set of 17s on it once before. When I put the 15s back on it for winter it felt a little stronger. not a whole lot, just enough to notice a difference. Thats why I wanted either 15s or 16s. But the more I look I think I am going to end up going with 17s again. Thanks for the offset info. That will help me out when I order my next set.

[babi_boi]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...#ht_2465wt_1270
just found these ones, they're at a good price and they have a nice deep dish and the offset is +35 which will bring it somewhat flush. I'm selling my old rims to buy these ones actually. If your interested in my 17x7.5 motegi FF7 rims look them up and let me know.

I looked up the rims on google and in your profile pictures. They do look pretty nice. Also in your pictures your wheels look pretty close to being flush. Are you running any spacers or is it all just the wheels? What is the offset on the wheels you have? How much would you want for the set you have? As I have stated before, I am not actually going to be purchasing the wheels for at least a couple months. I still want to keep looking and see what other option I can find. But thanks for the info and the comments.

[my94st]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...#ht_2465wt_1270
just found these ones, they're at a good price and they have a nice deep dish and the offset is +35 which will bring it somewhat flush. I'm selling my old rims to buy these ones actually. If your interested in my 17x7.5 motegi FF7 rims look them up and let me know.

I looked up the rims on google and in your profile pictures. They do look pretty nice. Also in your pictures your wheels look pretty close to being flush. Are you running any spacers or is it all just the wheels? What is the offset on the wheels you have? How much would you want for the set you have? As I have stated before, I am not actually going to be purchasing the wheels for at least a couple months. I still want to keep looking and see what other option I can find. But thanks for the info and the comments.

Ya they are somewhat flush but not hellaflush stance by any means. They are +42mm offset and I do not run any spacers. I am selling just the rims though, the tires wont come with it because the new rims im getting will be the same size and width. The chrome lip isn't perfect as they have a couple of spots here and there that don't look 100%. You will really only notice them if your picky like me. If interested I can send some close up pics whenever your looking to buy rims.

[block]

+35 wont even be close to being flush. You'd still need at least +25 spacers in the rear for flush. Front's will need +10 spacers for flush. I have 17x8 +35 and they weren't even close to flush. Even the 15mm Ichiba spacers I had in the rear didn't make it quite flush. BTW, not to be an ass but starting with +42 will be an even worse start.

[my94st]

+35 wont even be close to being flush. You'd still need at least +25 spacers in the rear for flush. Front's will need +10 spacers for flush. I have 17x8 +35 and they weren't even close to flush. Even the 15mm Ichiba spacers I had in the rear didn't make it quite flush. BTW, not to be an ass but starting with +42 will be an even worse start.

+35 would be better than stock. rim width also plays a part in it as well. +35 is perfect for me as i spend most of my time in northern maine where the roads are junk and hellaflush would turn into hella expensive when every pothole would eat rims and tires. I suppose everyone else has a different opinion though, clearly. Bonzaicelica has the same motegi ff7's and better camera angles which show the fitment. But like I said, everyone has a different opinion.

[babi_boi]

I posted a picture on the first page of this thread of some volks wheels. If you copy and past the link I am about to post, It should take you to the page the volk wheels are on. The wheels are 17 x 9. How close will the wheel be to flush. or even hellaflush. Does anybody think these wheels will work good. Or will they just plain be to wide. please let me know. Sorry for the lack of knowledge on my part.

Link: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volk-ce...11V-CE28N-GEN-5

Just copy and paste in your search box, Thank You

[my94st]

I posted a picture on the first page of this thread of some volks wheels. If you copy and past the link I am about to post, It should take you to the page the volk wheels are on. The wheels are 17 x 9. How close will the wheel be to flush. or even hellaflush. Does anybody think these wheels will work good. Or will they just plain be to wide. please let me know. Sorry for the lack of knowledge on my part.

Link: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volk-ce...11V-CE28N-GEN-5

Just copy and paste in your search box, Thank You

http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/tire-rack-te...t-is-rim-offset
This is a link with diagrams to help understand offset a little better. With an offset (sometimes referred to as ET) of 40mm it really wont be flush. Being so wide, it will be more flush than a rim at 7.5 inches wide at 40mm offset. I'm still struggling to fully understand offset but I think I've got the basics.

[block]

+35 wont even be close to being flush. You'd still need at least +25 spacers in the rear for flush. Front's will need +10 spacers for flush. I have 17x8 +35 and they weren't even close to flush. Even the 15mm Ichiba spacers I had in the rear didn't make it quite flush. BTW, not to be an ass but starting with +42 will be an even worse start.

+35 would be better than stock. rim width also plays a part in it as well. +35 is perfect for me as i spend most of my time in northern maine where the roads are junk and hellaflush would turn into hella expensive when every pothole would eat rims and tires. I suppose everyone else has a different opinion though, clearly. Bonzaicelica has the same motegi ff7's and better camera angles which show the fitment. But like I said, everyone has a different opinion.

Stock IS +35. Offset will play big in how flush you want it, not width.

I posted a picture on the first page of this thread of some volks wheels. If you copy and past the link I am about to post, It should take you to the page the volk wheels are on. The wheels are 17 x 9. How close will the wheel be to flush. or even hellaflush. Does anybody think these wheels will work good. Or will they just plain be to wide. please let me know. Sorry for the lack of knowledge on my part.

Link: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volk-ce...11V-CE28N-GEN-5

Just copy and paste in your search box, Thank You

5x114.3? find the correct bolt pattern and offset.

[babi_boi]

+35 wont even be close to being flush. You'd still need at least +25 spacers in the rear for flush. Front's will need +10 spacers for flush. I have 17x8 +35 and they weren't even close to flush. Even the 15mm Ichiba spacers I had in the rear didn't make it quite flush. BTW, not to be an ass but starting with +42 will be an even worse start.

+35 would be better than stock. rim width also plays a part in it as well. +35 is perfect for me as i spend most of my time in northern maine where the roads are junk and hellaflush would turn into hella expensive when every pothole would eat rims and tires. I suppose everyone else has a different opinion though, clearly. Bonzaicelica has the same motegi ff7's and better camera angles which show the fitment. But like I said, everyone has a different opinion.

Stock IS +35. Offset will play big in how flush you want it, not width.

I posted a picture on the first page of this thread of some volks wheels. If you copy and past the link I am about to post, It should take you to the page the volk wheels are on. The wheels are 17 x 9. How close will the wheel be to flush. or even hellaflush. Does anybody think these wheels will work good. Or will they just plain be to wide. please let me know. Sorry for the lack of knowledge on my part.

Link: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volk-ce...11V-CE28N-GEN-5

Just copy and paste in your search box, Thank You

5x114.3? find the correct bolt pattern and offset.

I thought these wheels would have the correct bolt pattern. When I ordered my last set of wheels they were 5 x 100 or 5 x 114.3. I just assumed by these wheels having 10 holes. 5 holes would be 5 x 114.3 and the other 5 holes would be 5 x 100. Just didnt think they would have 10 holes and both bolt patterns be the same. If both bolt patterns are the exact same why have 10 holes?

As for the correct offset, thats what I am trying to figure out, thats why i am asking questions, to learn more. Could you Please tell me the sizes I would need to have my wheels flush? Then tell me the sizes I would need to give me the hellaflush look? Or whatever I would have to do to get the hellaflush look? I mean the correct offsets.

As I said before, Sorry for my lack of knowledge. But if not for ppl like myself not knowing this stuff, what would all you wonderful ppl do with your spare time, Instead of answering our "we should have already known" questions.
Thank You everybody for the comments. I will look into what everybody has suggested Thanks again.

[babi_boi]

EDIT: Sorry double post

This post has been edited by babi_boi: Dec 13, 2011 - 12:54 AM

[my94st]

Stock IS +35. Offset will play big in how flush you want it, not width.

If stock is +35 and width doesn't have an effect, then why are my stock steelies a LOT less flush than my +42s? Clearly width plays an important part. if width doesn't matter then where does all the extra width go? in backspacing? clearly not so therefore width does matter. +35 on a 4 inch rim and +35 on a 10 inch rim will be completely different fitting (flushwise).

EDIT that should have quoted block not babi_boi sorry

This post has been edited by my94st: Dec 13, 2011 - 4:23 PM