project 1mz celica, 94 gt starting a new life Options

[kurt95gt]

So i desided. That since the swap isnt happening in the blue coupe anymore
i should make a new thread for the new celica
So lets get to some pics


So this is the new one
I just bought her off of dakotah( dakotahwatt) the 5s just let go an blew the rod on cly 1 so she was done an hes fed up so i jumped on buying her


Me an dakotah starting the tear down

Me removing the bumper

Us removing the radiator

The hole in the 5s block

starting to pull 5s



The 5s out an the 1mz setting behind waiting for a few more parts

Favorite pic the jackhandle going through the holecin the motor

Finally the empty engine bay

Pic of 1mz
Hopefully alot more to come soon
Orderin the clutch from southbend soon an ordering a stock flywheel tomorrow
Sending the wiring harness out sometime next week
Lookng at getting a aftermarket radiator
Probably getting a new drivers axle too
That should be the bulk of what i need to get her running
Ive got around 1300 to get her on the road
Lmk what you guys think

[rave2n]

Oie, working quick sir. Progress looks good.

Hey on that blown 5s...you need the PS pump? I could use one =)

[kurt95gt]

We go 2 of them ill ask dakotah howcmuch hrs wanting for the one he has laying at his grandpas house an ill let you lnow

[k-weaver]

Lookin good so far!

[kurt95gt]

So i did forgot to mention that i did drive the yellow one into the garage under its own power
An it had a small fire by the radiator when it first blew up

[dakotahwyatt]

Old photo I had laying around of my old girl love that with a blown motor and not radiator she was drove into the shop under her own power and did not lock the motor up ha she still wants to keep going power to the 5sfe

[stephen_lee]

woot. a hatch:)

does the 5s power steering pump fit on the v6 bracket?

[kurt95gt]

Not sure yet if it does but im gonna be finding out soon
if it doesnt i might just block off the ps lines an put on a 1mz pump later

[RabidTRD]

You going to be using that urethane front engine mount? Or can I call dibs? (dibs if I can)


Oh and you really don't waste time lol. $1300 huh? Man... V6 swap keeps looking more and more fun... I'm a NA kinda guy. Turbo's just mean more issues and I DD my Celica. But I wouldn't mind a bit more punch in the ole seat dyno. Going to see what my 5S feels like after cams and exhaust, then I'll determine what I want to do. I do like watching these V6 swaps though.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Jan 30, 2012 - 7:53 PM

[kurt95gt]

Im using the mounts sorry rabid lol
Im hoping to have the whole swap including the car for 3300
To me this swap makes the nost sence. Everything. Is state side so the engine is cheap
Parts are cheap an easy ti find.
Make almost as much power as a 3s . Lots of choices in engines
Only 2 real cons i see is wiring can be a nightmare and you have to make a custom mount
Everything else seems just as easy as a 3s swap

[RabidTRD]

Or have the custom mount made? lol.

[kurt95gt]

Yea you can have it made too but id rather do that myself
But doesnt look like im order anything this week my friends that are buying my old civic wont get there check this week like they thought
His job has still yet to send his w2 yet

[Smaay]

get a fidanza flywheel from southbend too. trust me...and please post lots of pictures and details of the wiring. im about to put a 1MZ in my celica too

[kurt95gt]

Ill call agan and see what the full price is for the. Flywheel too
Im not doin the wiring myself. Im sending it to mr220v to have mne done

[stephen_lee]

yeah the v6 is a good swap option. only thing that might be an issue is the wiring. everything else pretty much follows a 3s swap, or is well known(pass mount)

i got the v6 mounted within 2 hours lol. just like dropping in a 5s IMO

[kurt95gt]

Imhoping the. V6 drops in as easy as the5s cane out
But it sucks right now waiting on other ppl togive me money looms lke im gonna be about 2weeks behind where i wanna be
This sucks

[rave2n]

Imhoping the. V6 drops in as easy as the5s cane out
But it sucks right now waiting on other ppl togive me money looms lke im gonna be about 2weeks behind where i wanna be
This sucks

Feel ya brother, story of my life! I'm sure you got enough tidbits laying around to keep you entertained =)

[stephen_lee]

yeahh lol there is ALWAYS something that needs to be done

[kurt95gt]

Yea theres a few little things to do yet
Im swapping out thr stock shifter in the hatch for the short throw in the coupe
I juat swapped the rims around on the 2
Pulled the spoiler off the hatch an pulled the back seat out
The hatch has leather seats so im swapping them out with the coupe

Basically going to may the coupe a clean dd with a nice system an the nicer of the 2 sets of seats
An have it be a nice show car lol

[RabidTRD]

Yea theres a few little things to do yet
Im swapping out thr stock shifter in the hatch for the short throw in the coupe
I juat swapped the rims around on the 2
Pulled the spoiler off the hatch an pulled the back seat out
The hatch has leather seats so im swapping them out with the coupe

Basically going to may the coupe a clean dd with a nice system an the nicer of the 2 sets of seats
An have it be a nice show car lol

As where the hatch will be a monster. Rahahahah.

[kurt95gt]

Yea theres a few little things to do yet
Im swapping out thr stock shifter in the hatch for the short throw in the coupe
I juat swapped the rims around on the 2
Pulled the spoiler off the hatch an pulled the back seat out
The hatch has leather seats so im swapping them out with the coupe

Basically going to may the coupe a clean dd with a nice system an the nicer of the 2 sets of seats
An have it be a nice show car lol

As where the hatch will be a monster. Rahahahah.

Yes. Its gonna be my little honda killer lol
I cant wait

[Smaay]

when you call southbend, tell Andy that i sent you. my name is Jeff. Me might be able to hook you up a little.

[kurt95gt]

Sweet hope your right
I think thats who i talk tothe other day

[kurt95gt]

Sweet hope your right
I think thats who i talk tothe other day

Small update
Got my rc truck sold so i should have enough to do my harness done
Got to figure out mr220v website tho
I cant seem to get it to pop up on myphone

[Smaay]

do me a favor, when you get your harness


This post has been edited by Smaay: Jan 31, 2012 - 11:04 PM

[kurt95gt]

When i send it out i will post pics of what i send an post pics of what i got back

Side note gotta love my wife she spent the day while i was at work cleaning the engine bay up
Ill post pics in the morning

[kurt95gt]

Pic of the clean engine bay

[richee3]

What's the general timeline for this project? Hopefully it can be done in time for the Ohio meet

[kurt95gt]

The deadline in my head is the first week of march
An yes it should be done for the ohio meet
Might not be pretty but should run good

[SupraKid]

This thread is lacking rust.

[kurt95gt]

Theres alittle on the bottm of the doors lol

[SupraKid]

I was told this thread would bring me lulz...All this thread gives me is jealousy of a 1mz, and pain from remembering I used to own a coupe.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Feb 1, 2012 - 9:26 PM

[kurt95gt]

Im sorry maybe me coupe thread will help
but probably not

[kurt95gt]

Stickers showed up today!
too bad m at work

[dakotahwyatt]

Don't feel bad that was my coupe

[dakotahwyatt]

Don't feel bad that was my coupe

OK so that was a stupid post wow I had a coupe but the yellow hatch was my car

[JasonTX]

Stickers showed up today!
too bad m at work

cool glad they got in. hope that blue will work out for ya. it was hard to take a good pic of it

peace


-jec

[kurt95gt]

Thhanks jason you do great work
The wife loves the blue btww

[kurt95gt]

So im at a loss on witch way to go on these
Lookin for opinions

Or


This post has been edited by kurt95gt: Feb 3, 2012 - 1:20 AM

[kurt95gt]

Has shes setting now

[kurt95gt]

Small update
flywheel ordered
Bought some new e3 spark plugs
An a cherry bomb muffler for now

[richee3]

Hopefully you don't run into the same issue I did when I ditched the auto tranny from my BEAMS and put my S54 on. The flex plate bolts weren't long enough to serve as flywheel bolts so I had to buy 6 new flywheel bolts and all new bolts for the clutch pressure plate. Those were a nightmare to find. I'm looking forward to seeing this shell with a 1MZ under the hood though. Then hopefully more people will start swapping V6's in

[kurt95gt]

I have the bolts from the 5s for the fly wheel they fit the 1mz
Ill have to ait an see on the bolts for the pp

[stephen_lee]

I feel like an important part of the celica v6 game lol

good progress bro!

[Smaay]

I have the bolts from the 5s for the fly wheel they fit the 1mz
Ill have to ait an see on the bolts for the pp

DO NOT reuse flywheel bolts. you might get away with it you might not. its really a time bomb. get a set of these http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/product_...products_id=372

those can be reused, and they are cheaper than a set of OEM bolts.

[kurt95gt]

It was your thread that inspired me to go for it. Stephen
An ill order a set of those my next check smaay i didnt relize yoi couldnt reuse the bolts
Witch suck since they only have 200 mile on the but better to be safe than sorry
but im at a stand still basically till my friend get there income taxes back witch might not happen till the middle of he month so im ordering what i can and doing what i can till i have the cash

[stephen_lee]

I have the bolts from the 5s for the fly wheel they fit the 1mz
Ill have to ait an see on the bolts for the pp

DO NOT reuse flywheel bolts. you might get away with it you might not. its really a time bomb. get a set of these http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/product_...products_id=372

those can be reused, and they are cheaper than a set of OEM bolts.

yep i've seen them fail and wedge into the clutch not allowing it to release..... could be worse though.. the bolts could find a way out of the trans and you not notice anything.... untill your flywheel falls off at 7000 rpm.

[kurt95gt]

Yep im ordering a set of the ones smaay said to get next week

[Smaay]

its a good insurance plan. I have gotten away with using stock ones again, but it was for a short time.

Once i was re-using stock bolts and as i was torquing them, they just snapped. they never reached the proper torque.

the ARP bolts are actually for the 4A-GE but they work perfectly on the 1ZZ/2ZZ/1MZ/2GR and 7A-FE, i dont think they fit on the 3S or 5S.

[kurt95gt]

Sweet ill be sure to order them
Any suggestions on radators
Im still not sure if i wanna go to with stock or aluminum

[stephen_lee]

im went with a stock GT rad. idk if there are any rads with the upper water neck in the proper place....

[kurt95gt]

Does gt an st use the same rad cuz theres 2 6g parts cars in the junk yard near me both st

[Batman722]

Does gt an st use the same rad cuz theres 2 6g parts cars in the junk yard near me both st

different.

[kurt95gt]

Dang ok thank
What about a 5th gen gt

[stephen_lee]

ST has the upper outlet slightly more towards the trans side

Dang ok thank
What about a 5th gen gt

still a 5s so i imagine the same as a 6th gen

i wonder if the 92+ camry v6 radiator would fit?

[kurt95gt]

Idk if it will fit but im gonna find out
I they nk the Camry rad might be too long
Too bad a honda half rad wouldnt work that would free up alot of space. An save weight

[stephen_lee]

the camry rad is 3 inches wider and an inch or so taller.

no go on that one

also random info... an ST throttle cable works.

[dakotahwyatt]

That sucks about the pp bolts can't be reused lol i had to get them from so Cal well lol

[kurt95gt]

Wont the gt cable work?
Ive havent read much. About the throttle cable

[Smaay]

That sucks about the pp bolts can't be reused lol i had to get them from so Cal well lol

the small bolts for the pressure plate can be re-used. i was talking about the flywheel bolts.

[kurt95gt]

sweet atleast i can reuse them

[stephen_lee]

i think the gt cable is longer. so itll work but may have too much loose cable

[kurt95gt]

Ok ill look into pickin one up

Ok ill look into pickin one up

[kurt95gt]

Attention attention
I pick my flywheel up in the morning
That is all

[kurt95gt]

Well small update but no pic
Abs put back in. Brakes bled
Crossmember bolted back in.
Flywheel cleaned up alittle
Hopefully i get my money soon so i can get some major updates again

[kurt95gt]

Well got alittle done today. Bought something that i really didnt need but oh well

Tenzo type r race seats. They were in my old civic but my buddy needed cash so i picked them up for cheap

Not mounted yet but wanted an idea

Then also put my 6gc stickers an my yellow dragon stickers in
Hope ya like them. Jasontx is gonna be busy till those windows are full lol

[kurt95gt]

Finally got my moneys!!!!!!!
order my clutch tomorrow. Gonna try to pick up a alt an a radiator an stuff to make my seat mounts
An maybe rad hoses

[kurt95gt]

Southbend stage 2 clutch ordered hopefully ordering flywheel bolts soon
Then goin to the junk yard saturday for the rad an alt
Then the fun begans lol

[kurt95gt]

Holy crap does south bend work fast i ordered my clutch at 10am yesterday an it showed up at 930 am today
All i can say is wow
If it works as good as there shipping ill never buy a clutch from anywhere else

[Smaay]

^^^ this is why i keep recommending them. They are a good shop and i love the clutches. i have one in every one of my cars

[kurt95gt]

Well guess its good i keep ordering from where you tell me then lol
i just ordeted the flywheel bolts thanks again for the info on those
That was a big help

[NYp8tBaller07]

can't wait to see this done, however are you sure you want to go with E3 plugs. Myself and many others have had bad luck with them.

[kurt95gt]

Ive had alot of luck with e3 plugs i was running ngks in my 95 coupe an they sucked its running better an picked up about 2mpg with the e3 plugs

[NYp8tBaller07]

Ive had alot of luck with e3 plugs i was running ngks in my 95 coupe an they sucked its running better an picked up about 2mpg with the e3 plugs

if they work for you then thats great! I feel like they are hit or miss

[richee3]

Think it'll be on the road in time for the meet?

I'd love to know how heavy the 1MZ is vs the 5S just to get an idea of how it will affect the car in the corners. LSD would be a huge improvement with the 1MZ. I'll be very curious to see how much torque steer there is and how it pulls through the corners. I can't wait to see this swap finished.

[kurt95gt]

Well another small update i picked up the alt at the junk yard an a radiator from autozone

Richee3 im hoping it will be as of right now im 2 parts away from being able to drop the motor in an both are ordered. Hoping to be able to drop the 1mz in an hopefully running in a day. Then i just have ti get exhaust done before the meet im really trying but right now its about 50/50

[Bitter]

1MZ weighs about the same as a 3S-GTE with turbo.

[kurt95gt]

Small update
My flywheel bolts just showed up
So the swap begins this weekend!!
An i got an email my harness is almost done so with anyluck it should be here within the next week

[KAOS]

Lovin it!

Way to rep the Yelli Celli's, brother!

[kurt95gt]

Yepp gotta live up to the color lol
Gotta love the yelli celi

[bluecelicawife]

Got new stickers with the fly wheel bolts today so before to long there will be a pic of the update on stickers...lol

[kurt95gt]

Ok small update.( hopefully last small one)
Got the email today from mr220v that my harness will be shipped out tomorrow so i should have it by Monday!!
guess its a good thing i took Monday off from work

[mandrek]

WOOT!!! cant wait!!!.

[Smaay]

post some pics of the flywheel and clutch going on. i love seeing that red pressure plate.

[kurt95gt]

Ooo trust me there will be alot of pics as of Saturday

[kurt95gt]

Ok guys i got a question
How should i block off the power steering lines
Nevr done it before so im not 100% on how to do it

[richee3]

Ooo trust me there will be alot of pics as of Saturday

It's Saturday. Pictures!

[kurt95gt]

There will be a couple pics in a few

I will say i have ran into a slight problem im tying to figure out
the rear exhaust manifold hits the rear enging mount
Hmmm what ti do

[ricochet1490]

chop chop chop....

Manifold flange with custom bent piping and reweld around the crossmember lol

That sucks dude

[kurt95gt]

Thats what i was thinking. But not 100% on it yet since i have to be careful of the egr pipe that runs from the manifold to the block

[kurt95gt]

Said screw it an cut the flange off. Figure ill figure out the y pipe from there once the motor is in the car
Ill be posti g pics sometime tonight i swear

[kurt95gt]

Pictures!!!
Only bad part is this is only 1/3 of what i took
My phone didnt save the rest

New south bend clutch now intalled

3vz flywheel bolted on with the arp flywheel bolts smaay told me to get( they worked great)

Trans mounted an hole drilled out
Going tomorrow to get a longer bolt for that hole an to get a tap for another so ill have 4 bolts holding then together

Then heres a new little peace of info for everyone
If you deside to do a 1mz swap an use the stock exhaust manifolds youll have to modify the rear mout to clear the rear motor mount. So far all this has ment is i had to trim the heat sheild an cut off the flange.
Well hopefully ill have more to report tomorrow

[ricochet1490]

is that flywheel machined?

[kurt95gt]

It had been but set on the shelf for awhile an had surface rust so i did what i normally do on hondas an hit it lightly woth 100 grit
Plus in the pic theres still a few wet spotd from the brake cleaner it was sprayed down mayne 30 seconds before the pic eas takin

[Smaay]

i see what you mean. im surprised that the clearance was that bad. i guess thats the problem with the S54 tranny. i bet if we used the E153 and the ST205 rear engine mount, it wont be a problem.

[kurt95gt]

I talked to shephen-lee an he didnt have this problem with his 3vz an e53 so im guessing its just part of running the s54

[kurt95gt]

Well more pics an problems
First the good.

Got the pipe turned down to the right direction.

If anyone else does this an desides to delete the a/c pump. This is the belt you need
Any bigger itll be too big an smaller it wont go over the pullys


An how she sets now.

Now for the problem can the front motor mount be put in backward?
It seem like its crooked an i cant get the back mount on
Kinda really makin me mad lol
I had to take a break before i went all hulk smash on it

[kurt95gt]

Well 1mz is in an bolted down
Had to flip the front mount around. An put washers under the rear mount to space it up some since the o2 sensor was setting on top the streering rack

Then on the top side theres hood clearance issues with the intake
So ill have to cut the bracing some to clear it all
Then i have ti get another chunk of hose for the bottom to make it long enough
So next up on the list todo is the axles an wiring harness as soon as it shows up
Witch shoukd be tomorrow so hopefully shell be running by the end of tomorrow
Been a long day ill post pics later

[95CelicaST]

Just remembered I owe you pictures of my EVAP/ACIS vac routing. Le sigh...

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Mar 4, 2012 - 8:49 PM

[kurt95gt]

Its cool i think i got figured out other than one hose