 Safest Top Speed, noob question |
 Dec 24, 2003 - 2:09 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Sep 5, '03 From Grapevine, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Say I wanna find the top speed in my ST. It's an automatic, so I don't have as many options for some things.. but after I'm in the highest 'gear', how high should I let the RPM's get before I slow down? Should I let it get so close as to redline, or 6000? Or something lower?
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Dec 24, 2003 - 2:26 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you actually get to that point without getting pulled over, your car won't go to 6000 rpm's in OD, which is your final gear in your automatic st. You could just forget the guesswork and experimentation and search for other threads that deal with stating the top speed of your car. Should be around 110-125, depending on year.
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Dec 24, 2003 - 2:49 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
my car hits the speed limiter at 115mph while only at about 4200rpm
but i rarely go faster than 80, even if im racing someone, i try to always shut down at 80 for two reasons 1.less of a ticket if i get caught and its easier to slow down. 2.screwing up at 80 is bad enough, but at 115 it will be a whole hell of a lot worse mechanically, my car could probably go to 130, maybe 135(auto st) power wise it will get there no problem, im at the limiter and back down to a sane speed in less than a minute. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 24, 2003 - 3:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've had mine up to a little over 125 on the 4-lane just outside of town. I couldve gone higher but i got scared and decided to slow it down. Not worth the risk of a ticket or death so... i keep it under 90 these days.
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Dec 24, 2003 - 3:55 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
171 while using NOS in 7th gear!
I wouldnt recommend going over 110 This post has been edited by Andason: Dec 24, 2003 - 3:55 AM -------------------- i am awesome
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Dec 24, 2003 - 4:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Andason, u r craazy as ****.1st of all you dont have NOS. Secondly there isnt a 7th gear.... but it does sound like fun. Keep dreamin.
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Dec 24, 2003 - 11:28 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Thats Anderson for ya. Also, ST's have governor at 115, if you got to 125 in your ST, i'd be amazed, cuz the GT tops out at around 125 so your ST would be hard pressed to get there. -------------------- |
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Dec 24, 2003 - 12:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not all ST's have the speed limiter. mine does, but sometimes its a little late to kick in -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 24, 2003 - 5:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The GT doesn't quit at 125, the limiter comes in. BTW, you should get your ECU taken in, the limiter is off now. I did 130 yesterday, I think I could've gone a teeny bit higher...135 maybe?
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Dec 24, 2003 - 7:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lol, it was kinda a crack at F+F. I own both movies but yet I despise them. In the very very first scene of the movie, he shifts enough to be in 7th gear in a 5 speed Eclipse. His car also goes from like 140 to 160 in .3 seconds hence the 171 mph. NOOOSSSSS (I love it - I'm going to buy an older Camry and put NOS on it and just shoot it at like 120 shot all the time) -------------------- i am awesome
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Dec 24, 2003 - 7:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My ST doesnt have the limiter. Unless my speedometer is off, which i dont think it is, then i was doin 125. I know whatcha mean about F+F Andason...not very realistic, but i still liked both of em.
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Dec 24, 2003 - 7:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not only that, his reverse lights are on as he spins out. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 24, 2003 - 8:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Could have been the new ricey style... You never know.
-------------------- i am awesome
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:33 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've been to 138 in my ST. But that's going by the speedometer that says I'm doing 100 when I pass speed signs that say I'm going 96. I'd guess I 'actually' hit about 130. But then again I have a manual, and still had about 300 rpms untill redline. The auto might top out a little differently. Also, this was when my Celi still had less than 100k on it, it now has 196k. Almost time for a swap(don't want to get rid of an engine that still has life in it).
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Man, you don't have enough horsepower to go that fast...sorry!
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)  I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what kind of road did you do that on? -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
@gt4.wrc on Instagram |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Probably downhill...my Celi only had 24000 miles when I bought it in 2002 and it barely went past 100...it took ages to get that fast.
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mine used to still accelerate(slowly) until it hit the 115 limiter now it another story, it bothers me how quickly i can be at double the speed limit. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 25, 2003 - 2:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Is yours slow until the turbo spools up or is it fast from a stop?
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
with my old turbo, it lagged badly and for the first half of 1st gear it was slower than stock but now, turbo spools in what seems like no time at all and after the shift into 2nd it torque steers to the left. when i make a test pipe it should be even better!! -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I looked up the stats for an NA celi:
Toyota 1.8 ST 114BHP Top Speed of 124 0-60 in 10 Toyota 2.0 GT 173BHP Top Speed of 139 0-60 in 7.9 Not to say that these couldnt be surpassed going downhill or w/ small performance mods, but unless you have turbo i doubt youre gonna be goin much faster than this. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you got the stats for the wrong GT the usdm gt's only have 135hp and a 2.2l engine -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 25, 2003 - 11:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i thought something wasnt right about the gt stats, but i dont drive one so i wasnt sure about it.
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you want I can do it again and have it taped(may have more trouble now because of the extra 100k on the engine). And as for where, it was on I-70 between St Louis and Kansas City. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 6:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From tacoma WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no way in hell can an ST dream to see 130. 120 is kinda pushing it for ST's.
back in the old days with my GT i did 123mph. i tried not to long ago and did 143mph with a pasenger and a few hundred rpm left. the car was still accelarting but i didnt have the guts. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 6:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 20, '03 From Derry, NH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
when i pushed my 94 gt i hit alittle over 130 mph with some room to go
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Dec 25, 2003 - 7:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I really believe that an ST doesn't have enough engine to push those 2,500+ pounds all the way up to 120 mph...it may get there but it's after minutes. My ST climbed to 80 in a heartbeat and from there took an eternity to get to 90 and to 100 it was painfully slow...took probably more than a minute. After turbocharging it, at only 3 PSI with a blown turbo the car rocketed to 120 so fast I got nervous, haha...and it also torque steered to the left.
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 7:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Don't know where you're getting the 2500 pound figure. It's more like 2300. But either way, even my old 85 GTS could get up over 100 like it was nothing(22RE put out the same 115 hp as the 7AFE, with a tad more torque, and to the rear wheels). Sure it's forever compared to something like an RX-7 or Supra, but it will get there.
We've had this discussion on this board as well as on Celica.net many times. The ST gears(manual trans) top out at 138. So believe what you want, but I've been there and know better. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 8:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Last time I checked on the web, I think it was a car reviews website, the ST weighed 6,4xx pounds...maybe some more for the automatic. I've never weighed it but from my understanding, my car is now heavier with the turbo stuff...not by much, but heavier. Also, I have 17" wheels...they're less than 18 pounds each but obviously we gotta count the tire weight...hmm..are the stock plain black wheels heavier or lighter thank the Enkeis? That's where I got the 2,500+...just a raw guesstimate. Hell, if I'm lighter than 2,500 that's awesome...more power to weight ratio than a Spec V or a Lancer Ralliart...both heavier than 2,600 pounds STOCK 
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 1:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea my car torque steers left every time i shift into a higer gear while under boost.
i think im gonna try removing my st's limiter and see what it can do. im sure it will still be accelerating even at 130mph -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 26, 2003 - 2:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Can we bypass the limiter also? I thought you could only mess with the manual tranny STs. I need to know how because I'll need to do a max speed run so I can street set the S-AFC before going to the dyno
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im gonna put the wire on a switch and see what happens when the wire is "cut" with an auto tranny. i should do that in the next few days. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Somebody said that it can cause damage to the tranny
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
that was me, lol. toyota auto trannies are all controlled by the ecu based on speed and throttle position, and um, the ecu not knowing the speed might cause a problem. im gonna be careful with it and see exactly what happens when i switch it off. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 27, 2003 - 5:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '03 From North Yorkshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Speeds for my standard (apart from the Magic Tree!!) 94 UK GT.
3rd gear 100mph 4th gear 120mph 5th gear 145mph It's got 85k (ish) on the clock and runs like a dream. If anybody would like proof of this let me know and I'll go up the road with the camcorder and get back to you. To find out how fast your car goes, choose a nice quite road with good visibilty and stamp on the loud pedal, it's a Celica, the cunning Japs put a rev limiter to let you know when your going fast enough Crelica |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 12:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '03 From Peer, Belgium (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My '95 ST tops out at 130mph (210km/h); but it really isnt comfy driving at that speed, engine is at 6300rpms then.
(tested it in Germany, no limits on highways there) as for performance mod, the only thing changed is the cat has been taken out. |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 2:02 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
How did you get around the limiter? Mine's a 94 GT and the limiter kicked in at 125. I was only at 5,500 RPM, but te fuel just cut at 125 pmh. How'd ya do it? --------------------  psalm 69 |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 2:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I know the GT manual stock is 2580, and the ST is lighter. -------------------- psalm 69 |
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Dec 29, 2003 - 11:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
For all the weight related info, just look in the door. You will find curb weight, original tire size, transmission code, paint code... According to Henry's site(henryvo.com), the ST Liftback weighs 2415(man)/2495(auto). The ST Coupe is the lightest at 2395(man).
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Dec 31, 2003 - 2:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '03 From h town Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
damn i have a 95 st and with 182,xxx miles on it im scared to go over 100 cause my car begins to shake so i dunt try pushing it past 100mph but i would like to try! o yeah at 4,000 rpm i only hit 80mph is that strange?
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Jan 9, 2004 - 3:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My 97 GT automatic topped out at 127 with the top up- the limiter did not kick in. It was holding at 127 for different reasons (aero? raw hp?). With the top down it stops at around 115 mph, obviously for aerodynamic reasons. Going downhill on the 73 toll way south to San Diego, I've managed to get 125 with the top down- but these were some steep ass hills man, I found my speed dropping from 125 to 95 on the way back up. Have to try it with the top up- see if weight helps me fall
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Mar 1, 2004 - 9:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '03 From Fife, Scotland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I live in the UK, and have a 2.0GT Jap import with speed limiter which kicks in at @115mph... How do I disable it?
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Mar 16, 2004 - 12:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Not sure what kinda engine you have, but My 95 Celica with the 5 spd 7aFe engine I hit 125 on the Interstate before slamming the brakes cause some dumb*^%$ trucker decided to cut me off, so I can tell you that all you need to do is get a long stretch of road a friend to ride behind you at normal speed and someone to scout ahead of you and go. Try shifting the auto yourself at about 5750 so that the car has time to shift while your still on the throttle so it cant hit the revlimiter.
Also check your tires and brakes if you screw up I promise you it will HURT... L8R 95belica |
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Mar 16, 2004 - 4:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
shifting the auto yourself?
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Mar 16, 2004 - 4:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah from 1 to 2 to D or whatever, You can manually shift an automatic.
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Mar 18, 2004 - 3:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hit 135 easily with my ST, and was afraid to go anyfurthur on H-rated tires..
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Mar 18, 2004 - 4:15 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '03 From Portland, OR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea, I have a '94 ST, about 161K miles on it and a lil bit ago my car got up to 120, maybe more. ( my friend was driving and pissed off at me
) But yea, I don't think I have the limiter, and my clutch was actually working at the time. (damned clutch) Even though that doesn't have much to do with speed, if anything at all, I'm still pissed that it's busted. LOL. ANyway...main points:My car: '94 ST 120mph. good clutch at time. Good ishn. |
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