Bazooka tube Options

[lagos]

Anyone ever install one of those bazooka bass tubes in their celica ?
I want something that will give me some low end without taking up too much trunk space. The bazooka tube seems like it would work well for that.

[rave2n]

Anyone ever install one of those bazooka bass tubes in their celica ?
I want something that will give me some low end without taking up too much trunk space. The bazooka tube seems like it would work well for that.

I've had one in the past and was not impressed with it. Not the specific bazooka model, but they've been around for some time in that fashion.

They are also pretty big, bout the size of 2 12's in a traditional box.

Speaking of 12s, from my exp. in audio, and reference of other professionals, bass is best heard/felt through a 12 inch speaker. How you port the box, or tube is up to what you are looking for.

[kurt95gt]

I had one in a s10 pick up an it sucked. It barely made more bass than the stock speakers

[kurt95gt]

If you want more low without eating up your trunk
Get a pair of 8 inch subs for the doors an a good. Compact amp. That will fit under the pass side seat
Thats what i did in my coupe. But my ground sucks i get that stupid. Whining sound if i dont have my subs set for just bass

[SupraKid]

I've heard bazookas before and I wasn't overly impressed for there size, I would recommend another type of powered subwoofer:

http://www.crutchfield.com/g_51000/Powered...ers.html?tp=114

[playr158]

1 quality ten inch is more than enough...

[d3ath2009]

what about a 10 or 12 with a truck box (slim for behind a truck bench seat).. they technically may be the same volume, but seem to take up less space because slimness.. likely to be as wide as the space between the back seats, but less that a foot deep

This post has been edited by d3ath2009: May 8, 2012 - 8:00 PM

[rave2n]

1 quality ten inch is more than enough...

10 or 12....you miss alot with just a 10, not saying they aren't good quality, they just cannot hit the whole spectrum of bass.

Atleast for those that have good hearing...but we are talking about subs in a car, usage does kill hearing!

This post has been edited by rave2n: May 8, 2012 - 7:30 PM

[kurt95gt]

My plan for the 1mz swap is to run a good head unit with a pair of 600 watt 8inch subs in the doors an a pair of 250watt(maybe bigger) 6x9 Speakers in the back. An a 300-400 watt 2 channel amp

[lagos]

1 quality ten inch is more than enough...

You're right, but the problem is that you need to put it inside of a pretty big box to get anything out of it.
Trunk space is important to me, and I don't want some massive thing taking it up and eating up my gas money in the process.

[Box]

Depends on the type of music you listen to. 12" seems like a good compromise though. Thinking about getting a 10" myself though, seeing as most of what I listen to the bass is punchier than it is low frequency. No boosted sub bass in my music.

[lagos]

Anyone ever install one of those bazooka bass tubes in their celica ?
I want something that will give me some low end without taking up too much trunk space. The bazooka tube seems like it would work well for that.

I've had one in the past and was not impressed with it. Not the specific bazooka model, but they've been around for some time in that fashion.

They are also pretty big, bout the size of 2 12's in a traditional box.

Speaking of 12s, from my exp. in audio, and reference of other professionals, bass is best heard/felt through a 12 inch speaker. How you port the box, or tube is up to what you are looking for.

What size did you have 6,8,10?
Was it the active or passive one.

[Xander_X]

Bazooka is very low end, low quality company, and that being said, is VERY over priced. If your wanting some extra bass and looking to save room, I highly suggest the Infinity Basslink. Its a 10" sub unit with a built in amplifier designed to work with factory or aftermarket systems. It's a super space saver and can be mounted in all different positions. Infinity is widely known for being one of the leaders when it comes to audio for sound quality plus it won't break your bank. You can buy them new for under $200. I've recommended them to many of my customers and had great reports from all of them. Keep in mind, it's designed to sound a little better than I factory subwoofer would sound. It's for people like me that just want to add some deep, rich bass to their system without sounding like a rap concert is going on in your car. It really fills out that theater surround sound kinda feel if you have the 6 or 8 speaker system.

Wow ... rereading that, I should go into advertising

[Box]

Infinity was/is the premium audio system for many Japanese cars.

[Xander_X]

Infinity was/is the premium audio system for many Japanese cars.

+1 buddy ... Infinity, Pioneer, BOSE and JBL (made by Harman Kardon obviously) those are the premium brands most used by higher quality automotive manufacturers

[lagos]

Bazooka is very low end, low quality company, and that being said, is VERY over priced. If your wanting some extra bass and looking to save room, I highly suggest the Infinity Basslink. Its a 10" sub unit with a built in amplifier designed to work with factory or aftermarket systems. It's a super space saver and can be mounted in all different positions. Infinity is widely known for being one of the leaders when it comes to audio for sound quality plus it won't break your bank. You can buy them new for under $200. I've recommended them to many of my customers and had great reports from all of them. Keep in mind, it's designed to sound a little better than I factory subwoofer would sound. It's for people like me that just want to add some deep, rich bass to their system without sounding like a rap concert is going on in your car. It really fills out that theater surround sound kinda feel if you have the 6 or 8 speaker system.

Wow ... rereading that, I should go into advertising

I was actually JUST reading up on it. Seems like a great little sub, however there are a bunch of negative reviews on amazon from customers that claim to have it fail after a years use or so.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Basslink-20...5856&sr=8-1

Its still tempting due to its size.

I'm also thinking about going with infinity components
for the front
http://www.amazon.com/INFINITY-REF6030CS-C...49&sr=1-125
And for the rear
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-6...pd_bxgy_e_img_b

[Xander_X]

I was actually JUST reading up on it. Seems like a great little sub, however there are a bunch of negative reviews on amazon from customers that claim to have it fail after a years use or so.

Its still tempting due to its size.

I'm also thinking about going with infinity components
for the front
http://www.amazon.com/INFINITY-REF6030CS-C...49&sr=1-125
And for the rear
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-6...pd_bxgy_e_img_b

I have read a few negative reviews myself. Usually, if failure does happen, it's with the built in amplifier. In which case people usually just add an outside amp to it. You should look into the Basslink II ... I have personally never seen a faulty unit, but I've read less negative reviews about the second generation. Must have fixed those isolated bugs.

If you have the space, time and money, you can't go wrong with a component set and Infinity's a great choice. Just do your research before you buy. Though Infinity is an amazing brand, some companies are better at certain aspects of audio or their just as good and cost less. Compare them to JBL for instance. JBL has been priced pretty competitiveness lately in my opinion. You also have MB Quart and Pioneers higher end lines for components. All that aside, if your not a complete audiophile, and are suck on hering EVERY note, drum, whistle and fart, I wouldn't spend the money on a component set. You then have to get a separate highs amp and find places for the crossovers, etc. You'd be amazed by the sound you'll get from just upgrading your factory speakers with high end coaxial speakers. You can bring even more sound out by upgrading your factory head unit to one that puts out at least 45 watts per channel. Make sure it's a good brand though so you really get those watts. Also keep in mind you want to take into account how many speakers you have and how many the unit allows. It will usually say "55x4, 45x6, etc". I'm personally happy with the factory head unit with upgraded JBL coaxial speakers. I'm not 18 or 20 anymore so I don't need my speakers to "go to 11" (probably a lost reference). The speakers go WELL beyond the sound level I would ever use with the factory unit. Hope this helped. I'm glad you answer any sound questions you have. If I don't know the answer, I'll find out.

Sorry, I just looked at your links. The Reference line is a decent line and those seemed to be priced well. Just watch Amazon, they sell a lot of out of date merchandise. You know, like "last years model" or even older ... which isn't bad, but they're good at disguising it so if you don't read every detail you end up buying the wrong thing. Nice thing is they have a GREAT return policy and service.

This post has been edited by Xander_X: May 9, 2012 - 8:24 AM

[Xander_X]

1 quality ten inch is more than enough...

I would agree with this also. I have a 10" Phoenix Gold with a carbon fiber cone being pushed by a 300 watt amp in my Legacy Sport that POUNDS! You must keep in mind the individual acoustics that are inherent to each different vehicle. First gen Dodge Neons for example, POS cars but amazing acoustics. I'd use one for a sound competition car any day.

[purplegt4]

I have a bazooka 6. From craigslist for $50. Adds bass to all the 6.5s in the car. Can't really crank it like a boxed system tho. But good bass at moderate volumes, and it doesn't shake the plates in the neighbors cabinets when driving around.

[Box]

I'm 20 and don't need my music cranked to 11, except for when I'm recreating scenes of Stonehenge. Any who, a 10" or 12" should be plenty. Plan on getting a 200-300W sub to match the rest of the system. I don't need overpowering bass, just better presence. Could probably make a box that'll fit in between the rear strut towers flush with the back of the rear seat. Provided you have the liftback anyway.

[Xander_X]

I'm 20 and don't need my music cranked to 11, except for when I'm recreating scenes of Stonehenge. Any who, a 10" or 12" should be plenty. Plan on getting a 200-300W sub to match the rest of the system. I don't need overpowering bass, just better presence. Could probably make a box that'll fit in between the rear strut towers flush with the back of the rear seat. Provided you have the liftback anyway.

Present company excluded, Box ! I was stereotyping more than anything.

There is one issue you have to consider when making your own box. Every sub is designed with a specific box dimension in mind for optimal sound. They need a certain amount of room inside the box in order to have proper intake of air and create there required air pressure. Not only dimension but most subs are designed for a TYPE of box as well, i.e. Closed, Ported, Bandpass, etc. While obviously the speaker will work in any enclosure, you may be limiting up to 50% of it's sound capacity by using a box its not designed for.

This post has been edited by Xander_X: May 9, 2012 - 12:54 PM

[Box]

Was thinking about going with a Digital Design subwoofer, just not sure on how I'd want to box it. Should make a separate thread when the time comes I guess.

[lagos]

So as for components, 6.5s will fit in the rear with no modification. For the front I will either need to buy some type of adapter plate, or modify the ring on the old speaker to act as an adapter, right? And the tweeters should be about 1in to fit in the stock location.

[kurt95gt]

I put 8in subs in my doors with no modding.

[lagos]

I put 8in subs in my doors with no modding.

Pics?

[Xander_X]

So as for components, 6.5s will fit in the rear with no modification. For the front I will either need to buy some type of adapter plate, or modify the ring on the old speaker to act as an adapter, right? And the tweeters should be about 1in to fit in the stock location.

You shouldn't have to modify for 6.5" in the front. Should be direct replacement. If you have a GT you can remove the adapter and fit in 8". And 1" should be correct. I still have the stock tweets.

[kurt95gt]

These are the only pics i got

I plan on at some point pulling them back out an putting some sound deadening on the inside of the door

[lagos]

so this tells me i really WILL need an adapter plate! lol

[kurt95gt]

If you plan on running 6.5sin the front yea lol

[NYp8tBaller07]

I had 8" subs in the front also and they were pretty good all things considered. But now I have a 12" Infinity w/ a vented box and an SSL amp

[lagos]

Do you guys agree with the idea that upgrading the rear speakers is not worth it? I talked to a few people who basically say that its not worth the cost since the rears don't really add that much to the over all sound, not to mention that no one ever sits back there.

[kurt95gt]

Thats kinda a good point but you can still hear them up front too
im slowly working on swapping everything in my coupe to a newer stuff
so far i have 2 12inch rockford fosgate primes in the trunk an 6x9s,of the same brand for the rears
Nrxt up on the list is to try an get a set of 8inch subs an amp is the same brand

[lagos]

Thats kinda a good point but you can still hear them up front too
im slowly working on swapping everything in my coupe to a newer stuff
so far i have 2 12inch rockford fosgate primes in the trunk an 6x9s,of the same brand for the rears
Nrxt up on the list is to try an get a set of 8inch subs an amp is the same brand

I think I might go with an 8in sub as well.
At first I was looking into the infinity basslink, but after reading the reviews there seems to be a lot of failures with them.

This Dual sub on the other hand seems like a solid little sub, as long as you disable the ricer light show.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002WN2JS...;pf_rd_i=507846

[SwissFerdi]

Rear speakers matter. If only the front is upgraded, assuming that the replacement speaker is of better quality than OEM, your sound will likely be hollow and not as full as it could possibly be. Best to replace all four.

From my experience, make a budget for a component and go with the best of what you can afford. I take sh!ts more powerful than that Dual sub, I will bet my never-emerging firstborn that it will sound like complete nothing. Invest in quality, it pays back in terms of enjoyment. And I'm cheap. What is important is quality cone construction, durability, and lastly, everything must be powered correctly.

Dual is a cheap, cheap brand; I have had two of their amps and while they never failed on me, it was apparent that you got what you paid for. That setup that you're looking at is dirt cheap, but it seems better to me to put that money towards a quality sub. You can have a 10" for half of that, then invest the rest in a box and amp. A 10" sub won't take up more than 15x15, will run a bit more expensive but you'll have a setup that can run reliably for years, and sound better doing it, than that Dual thing ever will.

Here you go:

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-1...e/dp/B0028APNZ2

So, having thrown that into the mix, I'll go ahead and say that my 1262w, meaning two more inches of pounding surface, was only eight dollars more.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: May 10, 2012 - 2:05 PM

[rave2n]

Please do not get dual..horrible products!

[NYp8tBaller07]

Thats kinda a good point but you can still hear them up front too
im slowly working on swapping everything in my coupe to a newer stuff
so far i have 2 12inch rockford fosgate primes in the trunk an 6x9s,of the same brand for the rears
Nrxt up on the list is to try an get a set of 8inch subs an amp is the same brand

I think I might go with an 8in sub as well.
At first I was looking into the infinity basslink, but after reading the reviews there seems to be a lot of failures with them.

This Dual sub on the other hand seems like a solid little sub, as long as you disable the ricer light show.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002WN2JS...;pf_rd_i=507846

If you were closer id sell you my setup, Just take your time with it and look online at reviews and quality. I know it's hard when you get excited about something but in this case you'll be glad you did.

I'm very cheap when it comes to mods and I just had pioneer's in the back and some free subs in the front and it sounded great, but also by having subs in the front all the high's came from the back and it was a little weird but didnt sound bad at all. now add more subs and all youll hear is the bass. Just something to think about =)

[Xander_X]

Yes, Dual makes some REALLY sh!tty subs. But (I'm even laughing inside cause I can't believe I'm saying this), they own a brand called Axxera that are actually pretty damned good quality. They only make receivers right now, not speakers, but I'd keep an eye on them. I really hate to admit that Dual makes something good lol, but it's true. They're up there with some of the best head units right now.

... at least by the reviews I've been hearing. There's another installation shop about a mile down the road from us that sells them. I stop in from time to time to talk. There's shop is more old school and "mom & pop" style ... I like that ... ours is more mainstream. Their shop also won't let you buy junk or sell you junk for that matter, where as mine will sell you whatever you want, though we're going to recommend quality.

This post has been edited by Xander_X: May 10, 2012 - 4:52 PM

[lagos]

I know the dual is low end but it is small in size which is my primary focus.
Maybe I'll look into that single infinity sub and a compact box if I can find one.

[SwissFerdi]

Understood on the space issue, but you're putting a box back there anyway...a few inches shouldn't kill you, but putting money down for terrible quality sound and then having to live with it will.

Did I mention that I love my Infinity sub? It's amazing what a properly designed piece of speaker can do.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: May 13, 2012 - 1:36 PM

[lagos]

Understood on the space issue, but you're putting a box back there anyway...a few inches shouldn't kill you, but putting money down for terrible quality sound and then having to live with it will.

Did I mention that I love my Infinity sub? It's amazing what a properly designed piece of speaker can do.

The only thing thats turning me off from infinity subs is that they seem to have a higher than normal failure rate. Everyone loves their components, but their subs have a lot of negative reviews due to failure. More so than even lower end subs.

[SwissFerdi]

I read the same. To that end, mine came with a three-year warranty. I had my Rockford Fosgate fail after about a year and a half of use, and it is now a paperweight. Quality-wise, this sub is three times sturdier and three times heavier. I trust it.

[lagos]

I think I made my final decision. I'm going to go with the Infinity components and the 8in dual sub.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002WN2JS...;pf_rd_i=507846

I know dual is low end, but I love the fact that its so tiny in size compared to everything else, and the reviews on amazon sound like everything that I am looking for. I also like that its a band pass box, and everything else that I'm finding is sealed.

Here is a picture of it in the tiny trunk of a corvette.

[mgnt232]

Didnt feel like reading through all the posts on my phone, but the tube really isnt all that much bass. Yes its pretty small because of the tube design, but the amount of bass was not really anything. It wont like shake your car, its designed to give you the " sound" of the bass, just lower frequencies than your speakers. Thats the uniqueness of the tube. im not saying dont get it but a single 12" in a normal enclosure will shake the car a bit more. From experience this all is btw

[richee3]

JL Audio makes 8" subs as well. Last time I checked, they were only $50.

[SwissFerdi]

Well, good luck with it. Let us know how it is. A subwoofer is better than none. You'll be ready for an upgrade within time, bass is addicting.

Also, make sure to improvise some type of tie-down system - I had my box flinging around for a short bit before I secured it using the straps under the seats.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: May 15, 2012 - 10:39 AM

[lagos]

Well, good luck with it. Let us know how it is. A subwoofer is better than none. You'll be ready for an upgrade within time, bass is addicting.

Also, make sure to improvise some type of tie-down system - I had my box flinging around for a short bit before I secured it using the straps under the seats.

Thanks! I'll be sure to type of a review or something about it.

I actually used to have two 10s in a ported box with an amp. While they sounded nice and shook the car well, they were just not practical. They took up way too much space and dominated the rest of the speakers way too much. Thats why I decided to go the route that I did. Just to have something small that covers the range that the 6.5s can't do while not adding 50lb of weight and taking up half the trunk.

[lagos]

So I got everything installed and here is my little review.

I'm really happy with this setup so far. The Infinities added a lot more clarity and presence in the mids and highs without being too bright or harsh. I wouldn't say they are the greatest speakers I have ever heard, but they are probably one of the best in their price point. The tweeters probably made the biggest difference from stock as I finally realized how much of the highs I was missing with the stock tweeters.

The 8in sub is a perfect compliment to the system. It gives pretty accurate bass reproduction (at least for a product made by Dual) and just enough low end without being over powering. It produces really tight, punchy bass due to the bandpass box and that was one of the biggest reasons (besides size) that made me choose it (along with the positive reviews on Amazon).

Great for cranking up dub step! And after a bit of EQing, I was really surprised at how well rounded everything sounds. Its not just all bass shaking the car.

Here are some pics. The sub itself is a little smaller than a milk crate, as you can see in the pics.