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[mi645]

Hello I have a 99 celica gt with only 95k miles when I bought at up until now I had this problem getting into gear at a full stop I'd clutch in and the shifter would be difficult to put it into gear very difficult it would click twice but u wouldn't feel the trans clucking or anything and when u drive it shifts just fine now I've replaced oem clutch slave and master and new fluid in the master cylinder bleeded the system and also changed the trans fluid and im still having this issue any ideas?

[njccmd2002]

cluthc?

[mi645]

I haven't replaced the clutch but is there a way of telling its the clutch?

It doesnt slip or anything

[Special_Edy]

It sounds like the syncronyzers. Drain your transmission and refill with exactly 2.6 quarts of Pennzoil Syncromesh Transmission Fluid. Double check your capacity but if you are a couble tenths of a quart/liter overfilled or underfilled then the transmission will have difficulty going into gear.

Hope this helps

[mi645]

Ok then I will try as u said u better be right I don't have money to throw away on fluid I already have good stuff in there but anyways what's the best trans fluid I can use I do have plans for autox I like quality to last me and run me good

[BonzaiCelica]

i'm having issues. I just replaced my car with a 11.4 pound flywheel, southbend pressure plate and clutch disc along with an oem throw out bearing. I also replaced the master and slave cylinder. Only put 2,600 miles on the car since. And have babied the car since the install.

I can shift into every gear just fine while the car is off without me pushing the clutch pedal.

When the car is on and I push the clutch pedal to put it into first it won't go in at all even reverse is basically impossible. Once I eventually get it into first after like 10 try's and fiddling around, it'll shift into 2nd-5th no problem as long as your keeping the revs under 3,000 rpm.

the main shifter cable looks like so. but I doubt this has to do with the problem right???



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 15, 2012 - 1:45 AM

[mi645]

This sounds like the problem I am having also? But let me ask u is it hard to put it into any gear? While the car is fully stopped but the car is on? And then once u drive and get it moving it starts shifting normal? Because that's my problem

[BonzaiCelica]

This sounds like the problem I am having also? But let me ask u is it hard to put it into any gear? While the car is fully stopped but the car is on? And then once u drive and get it moving it starts shifting normal? Because that's my problem

yes, its hard to put into any gear while the car is stopped. when the car is stopped and still on it only wants to go into 1st gears. and has a real spongy feel on the shifter. once I get moving its fairly easy to get into other gears

[mi645]

Honestly I changed the tranny fluid the clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder put new fluid and bleeded the system and I'm still having the same issue... My linkage makes a noise when I grab tw shifter and swing it left and right while it's in neutral while the car is off try that it could be that problem I'm not sure my self yet. And it seems like no 1 has the answer my cluth doesn't slip or shatter so idk what todo honestly

[BonzaiCelica]

Honestly I changed the tranny fluid the clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder put new fluid and bleeded the system and I'm still having the same issue... My linkage makes a noise when I grab tw shifter and swing it left and right while it's in neutral while the car is off try that it could be that problem I'm not sure my self yet. And it seems like no 1 has the answer my cluth doesn't slip or shatter so idk what todo honestly

yea mine doesnt slip or chatter either. i called tweak'd performance, and they said it could be that the clutch is enganging disengaging proplerly. I don't have a spong feeling clutch either, and clutch pedal disgengagement from 1st gear seems just fine. I'll take it to a shop for them to diagnose it. I hope I don't need a new disc or pp.

[SwissFerdi]

Honestly I changed the tranny fluid the clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder put new fluid and bleeded the system and I'm still having the same issue... My linkage makes a noise when I grab tw shifter and swing it left and right while it's in neutral while the car is off try that it could be that problem I'm not sure my self yet. And it seems like no 1 has the answer my cluth doesn't slip or shatter so idk what todo honestly

Bonzai, that shifter cables is evidently all kinds of terrible...I'd start with that.

mi645, get to the shifter console and see if there's something wrong with the linkages? Could be loose, frayed cable like Bonzai...clips could be missing.

[malecrod]

Had the same anoying problem that persisted even after changing the transmission before finding out its the cable. My cable was not as bad as above, just some missing plastic cover here and thre but it was enough that when you try changing gears, it would form a loop instead. The cable cost $$, like 400 new from toyota. But once l changed mine problem disappeared.
Hope this helps.

[BonzaiCelica]

currently have a 95 camry s54 transmission cable. Hoping that 97 camry from the junkyard is still there, it also has a s54 transmission. I'll pull that one too see what the difference in cable length is.

the current s54 cable from the 95 camry is 52 inches. anybody have the length of a 94-99 celica s54 cable I'm talking about the longer shifter cable that attaches to the base of the stickshift.

[richee3]

Round numbers, 52".

[BonzaiCelica]

really the longer s54 cable from the 94-99 celica is 52 inches? doesn't seem like it cause you didn't straighten out the cable completely? whats that mean round numbers??

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 23, 2012 - 9:18 PM

[richee3]

"Round numbers" means it's close enough because I didn't have the cables perfectly straight, but they were close enough.



They can't gain more than an inch, the way I had them laying.

[BonzaiCelica]

sorry for sounding real paranoid I just don't have very good form of transportation except my celica at the moment. shouldn't the cable on the left (the one that attaches to the base of the shifter stick) be longer than the one on the right?? by like 2 inches?

also my clutch doesn't slip either I gave it wot in 1st gear to 4,500 revs and no slippage at all.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 24, 2012 - 1:58 AM

[mi645]

From driving exp I was sure that it's not the transmission I knew its something with cables or shifter linkage cuz I had tranny problems in other cars I know how they work but anyways is there a way to find these cables cheaper than 400 dollars?

[BonzaiCelica]

From driving exp I was sure that it's not the transmission I knew its something with cables or shifter linkage cuz I had tranny problems in other cars I know how they work but anyways is there a way to find these cables cheaper than 400 dollars?

start making your trips to the junkyards.

also for me, example : lets say I'm driving in 3rd gear at 35mph and press the clutch pedal, the clutch will do its job and disengage the power being fed from the transmission to the engine so that I am no longer able to get power to the wheels.

also found this. my guess is that my disc or pp is gone. makes no sense cause my hybrid disc is made with exedy parts. darn I shoulda went with oem beams pp and the 5s stock disc. but at $280 for beams pp thats a lot.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/drivetrain/33...ts-running.html

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 24, 2012 - 11:18 AM

[mi645]

Didn't know u can use beams parts for our 5sfe

[BonzaiCelica]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...61995&st=80

^^ scroll to the bottom there's all the interchangeable parts you can use from USA market and ones you can't

wow I fail!!! I'm glad I asked the mechanic that lives across my dads house. He said check the clutch pedal. So Adjusted it 4mm further outward from the floor and wow it fixed my problem!! yea i'm such a newb at times. but honestly still learning.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 25, 2012 - 1:51 AM

[Ted95]

my coupe is having issues as well. my s54 will go into gear when it wants too.. at times it wont go into any gear at all and as you try and put it into gear it wants to pull the car forward. other times the car will shift fine and can actually make a trip down the road and back quick, then park it and wont go back into gear.. i replaced the master and slave and bleed it a million times but still acts up.

i can hear my 6puck chatter when the clutch is working []as it is disengaged but when it doesnt want to shift i dont hear the chatter at all. could i have sprung a spring in my clutch? im stuck at this point.. im going to check the shifter cables as it seems it could be an issue if its happened to you guys.

ive replaced my master, slave, adjusted clutch pedal and car wont go into gear. but does go into gear when it feels like it. any ideas??

This post has been edited by Ted95: Aug 27, 2012 - 11:50 AM

[mkernz22]

my coupe is having issues as well. my s54 will go into gear when it wants too.. at times it wont go into any gear at all and as you try and put it into gear it wants to pull the car forward. other times the car will shift fine and can actually make a trip down the road and back quick, then park it and wont go back into gear.. i replaced the master and slave and bleed it a million times but still acts up.

i can hear my 6puck chatter when the clutch is working []as it is disengaged but when it doesnt want to shift i dont hear the chatter at all. could i have sprung a spring in my clutch? im stuck at this point.. im going to check the shifter cables as it seems it could be an issue if its happened to you guys.

ive replaced my master, slave, adjusted clutch pedal and car wont go into gear. but does go into gear when it feels like it. any ideas??

That sounds to me like it might be your clutch.

[BonzaiCelica]

yea more than likely yes. Read the first page. there I posted a link to an evo forum with guys describing the same issues as you.

also does your car jolt forward when you turn it on while have your foot all the way on the floor and it being in first gear??

clutch chatter certainly shounds like a torn spring, although I myself have never experienced that.

[Ted95]

yea more than likely yes. Read the first page. there I posted a link to an evo forum with guys describing the same issues as you.

also does your car jolt forward when you turn it on while have your foot all the way on the floor and it being in first gear??

clutch chatter certainly shounds like a torn spring, although I myself have never experienced that.

ya im pretty sure its my clutch, i talked to one of my dads machanics as well today and hes sayign its the clutch as well. im placing an order for a clutchmasters, not feeling the comp clutch..

6 puck clutches always chatter anyway, but the chatter has gotten louder which leads me to believe the clutch is bad. it does jolt forward too.. sucks.

[BonzaiCelica]

got a question regarding clutch pedal adjustment. if I adjusted it once, like 4 days ago, its starting to do the same thing again. Engagement is real short again. why is that??

is it necessary to retighten the lock nut with wrench once the correct pedal height is acquired??

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 28, 2012 - 11:36 PM

[trdproven]

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This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 29, 2012 - 6:04 PM

[trdproven]

yea more than likely yes. Read the first page. there I posted a link to an evo forum with guys describing the same issues as you.

also does your car jolt forward when you turn it on while have your foot all the way on the floor and it being in first gear??

clutch chatter certainly shounds like a torn spring, although I myself have never experienced that.

ya im pretty sure its my clutch, i talked to one of my dads machanics as well today and hes sayign its the clutch as well. im placing an order for a clutchmasters, not feeling the comp clutch..

6 puck clutches always chatter anyway, but the chatter has gotten louder which leads me to believe the clutch is bad. it does jolt forward too.. sucks.

puck clutches chatter thats something you need to expect. sometimes it loud sometimes it low. and it jolts forward cus the comp clutches are freakin strong as hell. my buddies run the same comp clutch in the states and do 11s. i have it too but i only got it cus Tweak hooked it up for me. I just got used to the chatter and jolting. Next time id get round faced.

got a question regarding clutch pedal adjustment. if I adjusted it once, like 4 days ago, its starting to do the same thing again. Engagement is real short again. why is that??

is it necessary to retighten the lock nut with wrench once the correct pedal height is acquired??

[BonzaiCelica]

here's the scenario:

car's at a dead stop with the engine running, I cannot go into 1st, 3rd, or 5th gear unless pressing the clutch pedal. Then I try to go into 2nd, 4th or Reverse and all I get is a spongy feel in the shift knob. I even press the clutch pedal and it still wont go into gear 2nd, 4th or Reverse.

whats the problem

car was fine 2 weeks ago when I installed a new master clutch cylinder. problem and all details starts on this thread linked below.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82407

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 15, 2012 - 2:11 AM

[Stambo]

did you do a oem clutch master? I've replaced mine with a napa one and it went out twice in a year. I got smart and just got a oem toyota one. Make sure your positive that the clutch pedal is adjusted good and you bled the system out well.

[BonzaiCelica]

my next thought was go with a napa clutch slave clyinder since I know they carry high quality products.

I just installed the new master cylinder, pumped the pedal for 5 min straight. Added necessary fluid and drove off. Now their is black residue in the reservoir and I'm afraid that if I try and bleed the air out of the system it won't even engage into the gears anymore.

[Smaay]

have you checked all the cables and linkage? whats happening sounds more like one of those

[BonzaiCelica]

have you checked all the cables and linkage? whats happening sounds more like one of those

mind you when car is off gears go in just fine. the only thing to check is shifter cables right there is nothing else right. this is what mine looked like I then taped it with electrical tape. posted a wtb thread for this shifter cable, but no luck yet... my guess is that when the car is running this cable has a lot more tension than when the car is off???



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 17, 2012 - 5:40 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

now my car wont even go into 2nd, 4th, or Reverse while the car is off or on. it'll just shoot back to nuetral. All I have is 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 19, 2012 - 11:29 PM