TRD Rear Splitters, Not direct fit? Options

[ILoveMySilly97]

I received the TRD Rear Splits about a week ago and I tried installing them. I noticed that it's a bit too long? Like it doesn't sit flush? It makes me wander if the hatchback models had a longer rear end? I have a liftback model. Does anyone have any idea why it's like that? The parts are genuine btw.

[Box]

Coupes and liftbacks have different rear bumpers.

[richee3]

Are they replicas or genuine Toyota parts? Replicas are virtually never perfect unless purchased from a very reputable source. The genuine parts should be a good fit. Coupes/Currens have different rear ends than a hatchback/liftback, so the Curren splitters are a couple of inches longer to compensate.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Are they replicas or genuine Toyota parts? Replicas are virtually never perfect unless purchased from a very reputable source. The genuine parts should be a good fit. Coupes/Currens have different rear ends than a hatchback/liftback, so the Curren splitters are a couple of inches longer to compensate.

Damn. That makes since then. I think I got the coupe rear splitters. It's a bit longer. This sucks. Oh well. I guess I'll have to put them up for sale then. Oh and I'm pretty sure they're genuine. Since it is that black plastic.

Here's the link to the actual eBay post that I bought it from. It clearly says st202/st205/gt4 and as far as I THINK I know. There's no such thing as a coupe st202 or st205. Right? They're all liftbacks?

This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Sep 16, 2012 - 1:28 AM

[richee3]

If they're genuine Curren splitters, you've got a highly sought after set. Can you post pictures? There were no coupe ST205's and so far as I know, no coupe ST202's but I can't say for sure.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Here are the pics:

OUTSIDE:


INSIDE:


A random number/serial???
READS: QC06

[str8thugginit4ya]

THose I believe are for the liftback. From what I see in the pic, they look just like mine, & I have a liftback Celica.



-Hope I helped, Ryan

[richee3]

Those are definitely genuine Toyota parts, not replicas. I can't see why they wouldn't fit... Then again, looking at Google Images and trying to compare pictures isn't exactly mathematical science. I'll try to get some measurements on my liftback splitters in a couple of hours, just to give you something to compare to.

[Xander_X]

Ok, first off ... liftback and hatchback are the same thing. Liftback is just an older term and is still currently used outside of the states as we love to bastardize the English language.

The ones for the coupe/Curren and the ones for the hatchback/liftback look the same but the coupe/Curren ones are a bit longer.

[richee3]

Measuring the inside, my liftback splitters came out to be around 19". Pictures just to show my points of measurement.

[Box]

But liftbacks and hatchbacks aren't the same thing. My OCD compels me to recognize the difference.

[Xander_X]

But liftbacks and hatchbacks aren't the same thing. My OCD compels me to recognize the difference.

I willl kill you until you die from it ....

[Box]

LIFTBACK


HATCHBACK


See, there be a difference.

[richee3]

I willl kill you until you die from it ....

Hot Shots! is awesome. That is all.

Box- you are correct. A hatchback lifts out then up, a liftback lifts straight up. Something like that, anyway.

Edit: stolen from Wikipedia.

Hatchback- Incorporates a shared passenger and cargo volume, with rearmost accessibility via a rear third or fifth door, typically a top-hinged liftgate—and features such as fold-down rear seats to enable flexibility within the shared passenger/cargo volume. As a two-box design, the body style typically includes A, B and C-pillars, and may include a D-pillar.

Liftback- A style of coupé or sedan with a hatchback; used especially when the rear access door is very inclined, opening more upward that outward.

This post has been edited by richee3: Sep 20, 2012 - 8:09 PM

[Box]

That and liftbacks are way sexier.

[Xander_X]

Lol I agree, but try pulling that when your searching for parts or buying a car in the US. You know that when you do a parts search and have to select trim it ALWAYS asked "coupe or hatchback" .... tell me I'm wrong ... do it ... lie to me ... I dare you ... you won't ... your scared ...

That being said ... I agree, not only is the "liftback" sexier ... but it sounds cooler.

Wikipedia also said that: David Beckham is Chinese, Gary Oldman is a Giraffe, and I believe at one point the entry for Batman was simply, "Duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh Duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BATMAN!"

This post has been edited by Xander_X: Sep 20, 2012 - 8:17 PM

[Box]

When I do parts search it just asks for the engine.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Measuring the inside, my liftback splitters came out to be around 19". Pictures just to show my points of measurement.

Mines actually came out the same too. I think it's probably because they weren't fully mounted when I put them on. I know for sure I'm going to have to drill holes onto the rear bumber for the back part of the splitters. That might help it sit flush more. I guess I'll have to wait til I get them painted and fully mounted to determine if they do fit or not. Well thanks for the info though. At least I know it SHOULD fit.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Aight. Here I am again. Back to the drawing board. It's mounted and doesn't fit.....I don't know why because it should fit. I've heard my friends talk about how the Honda guys would use a heat gun to "mold" their lips into the bumpers?

[yagamius]

I wont recommend that, When I bought mine they don't look like they gonna fit but then eventually find their place.

why don't you just post a pic of how it looks when you try to fit in, to see and figure it out why they don't do it.

[rentaspace]

Mine didn't fit flush and they were OEM Toyota ones.. Could be age of plastic or how the other person handled them...
Mine doesn't line up either and the right side doesn't even have screws in it yet...

Basically I used sikaflex and double sided tape to put them in the exact position I wanted and then masking taped the on.. 10mins later I drove to. Toyota meet LOL masking tape and all xD



Mine also look identical to those

This post has been edited by rentaspace: Jul 16, 2013 - 8:13 AM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Here's the pictures I took today.

The passenger side.


The drivers side.


The passenger side with the screw off and putting pressure to best fit or try to make it sit flush but doesn't.


The drivers side with the screw off and putting pressure to best fit or try to make it sit flush but doesn't.

[Box]

Something isn't right somewhere.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Something isn't right somewhere.

Exactly why it makes me think these were for the coupes. It shouldn't be this off if it was for the liftbacks. I would like to test fit these on another coupe. Hoping there'll be a coupe at the upcoming meet and they'll let me test fit them on their car.

[Box]

That or keep them in the car and if you see a coupe just test fit it on the spot. It has to be they're the coupe ones. Even with a little deformation from age they wouldn't be that far off.

[rentaspace]

Something isn't right somewhere.

Exactly why it makes me think these were for the coupes. It shouldn't be this off if it was for the liftbacks. I would like to test fit these on another coupe. Hoping there'll be a coupe at the upcoming meet and they'll let me test fit them on their car.

Here are photos of mine:
The right side is pretty far off:




The left side was the exact same until I got the two screws into the mounting points for the OEM mudflaps:




This post has been edited by rentaspace: Jul 16, 2013 - 6:31 PM

[richee3]

Liftbacks are 174", where coupes are 177". The difference in length is all behind the rear wheels. If those were coupe splitters, they would be much more than half an inch too long.

http://www.toyotacelicas.com/information/years/1994.php

[Box]

That's nowhere as bad as Silly's gap though.

Hmm, aftermarket rear bumper cover perhaps? Are there any accidents reported on it?

[rentaspace]

That's nowhere as bad as Silly's gap though.

Hmm, aftermarket rear bumper cover perhaps? Are there any accidents reported on it?

My gap was worse until I put them on and used force to mold them to shape...
The gap remained until I put the screws in, which then brought it to a tiny gap...



I was so worried about damaging them though when I did this... >.<

[ILoveMySilly97]

That's nowhere as bad as Silly's gap though.

Hmm, aftermarket rear bumper cover perhaps? Are there any accidents reported on it?

It's a clean title car and I'm pretty sure it's stock bumper. Looks like every other stock bumpers.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Liftbacks are 174", where coupes are 177". The difference in length is all behind the rear wheels. If those were coupe splitters, they would be much more than half an inch too long.

http://www.toyotacelicas.com/information/years/1994.php

You think you can get a piece of string and measure it from the top end all the way to the rear end point? Like line the string along the seam? Then measure it with a measuring tape? So I can get the correct/exact measurements for your coupe trd rears and compare it to mines.

This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Jul 16, 2013 - 7:07 PM

[Box]

I don't see how ABS plastic could warp so badly...

[richee3]

I have a hatch, not a coupe. I posted that picture for example purpose only. I posted my liftback splitter measurements on the first page.

[ILoveMySilly97]

I have a hatch, not a coupe. I posted that picture for example purpose only. I posted my liftback splitter measurements on the first page.

Well you think you can measure it with a string? It'll be a more accurate measurement even if it's warped or not. It should be the same.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Measuring the inside, my liftback splitters came out to be around 19". Pictures just to show my points of measurement.

Measured mine and it came out to be roughly 21 inches. So more than likely mines are for the coupes.

[JoshuaM]

Just looking at the shape of yours they look to be for the hatch, just a bad fitment.

[JoshuaM]

Actually, looked at the side by side comparison shots with my car in your sale thread and now I'm not so sure Find somebody nearby with a coupe and test fit to settle this thing

Looked again, I think you may be right. As you said in the other thread, the give away is the curve on the top edge.

This post has been edited by JoshuaM: Aug 5, 2013 - 8:34 AM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Yea. More than likely I got the coupe ones. Some how.

[richee3]

Your 21" splitters as opposed the 19" splitters I have sounds like it could very well be for a coupe then. All the pictures I've seen so far have been after you had them screwed in place so fitment doesn't look that far off. Do you have any pictures of them held up to the car but not mounted so we can see how far out they stick on their own? It'd be nice if some coupe TRD splitter owners had some measurements.

[richee3]

Here are a couple of good pics of JaQb_CK's TRD splitters.

And now a pic of yours:

The biggest difference I see right offhand is that yours come way closer to the center of the car than the others. The others start to wrap around the rear of the bumper, where yours keep going, so yours are very likely for a coupe.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Yeap. Exactly what I though too.

[Jeebus]

Here's my GT-Four rear spat pics. I actually need to find a replacement since I'm missing the rear left spat. Paralax asode, they seem to be 19".



On a side note, when I removed my bumper a few days ago, due to the screws, I had one come off with the bumper, and one that stayed on the frame. What would you folks suggest that I use to adhere the spata once I get a replacement. There currently seems to be a pretty thick double sided tape on, black in colour.

[ILoveMySilly97]

I used 3M double sided tape. You can get it at hardware stores or Auto stores. If you don't want your rear spats. Just HMU. I'll take them off your hands. LOL!

[Jeebus]

Ill let you know if I decide to sell. It is only the rear left spat though, as the rear right was already missing when I bought the car, and its quite bunged up on the lower-inside section of the wheel arch. I figured it'd be easier for myself to find a set instead of just one side, plus they'd be in good condition as well.

Apologies for the image size, I tried using the imageshack app to upload pics from my phone, and it just took the original resolution.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Ill let you know if I decide to sell. It is only the rear left spat though, as the rear right was already missing when I bought the car, and its quite bunged up on the lower-inside section of the wheel arch. I figured it'd be easier for myself to find a set instead of just one side, plus they'd be in good condition as well.

Apologies for the image size, I tried using the imageshack app to upload pics from my phone, and it just took the original resolution.

Damn. Didn't catch that. What happened to the other side? Would've been perfect if it was a set.

[mkernz22]

Ill let you know if I decide to sell. It is only the rear left spat though, as the rear right was already missing when I bought the car, and its quite bunged up on the lower-inside section of the wheel arch. I figured it'd be easier for myself to find a set instead of just one side, plus they'd be in good condition as well.

Apologies for the image size, I tried using the imageshack app to upload pics from my phone, and it just took the original resolution.

Damn. Didn't catch that. What happened to the other side? Would've been perfect if it was a set.