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post Feb 6, 2004 - 4:37 PM
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Does anyone have any ideas what the fastest engine I can find to put into my 95 GT? Looking to build it (turbo, pistons.....etc) then drop it in. Any thoughts or ideas?


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post Feb 6, 2004 - 4:39 PM
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The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos. Then ask again.
post Feb 6, 2004 - 4:43 PM
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QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos. Then ask again.

Thanks for the help...........
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QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 6, 2004 - 3:43 PM)
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The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos.  Then ask again.

Thanks for the help...........

he's saying that you need to do some of your own research. use the search function, there are so many topics about this that it's not even funny. besides, you could do your own research, and go outside of the norm. it's just not a question that has a definate answer, it's all relative to the person responding, sooooo, read those books, search the forums. that's why we have this board. the search function will answer your question in more ways than a single topic could ever dream of. wink.gif.

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post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:15 PM
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stop being jackasses.. everyone knows the answer:
3S-GTE!
post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:18 PM
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QUOTE (integra_killer @ Feb 6, 2004 - 2:15 PM)
stop being jackasses.. everyone knows the answer:
3S-GTE!

Lol.

But yeah, its the 3S-GTE
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QUOTE (integra_killer @ Feb 6, 2004 - 4:15 PM)
stop being jackasses.. everyone knows the answer:
3S-GTE!

not being jackasses. just telling him to do some research. you don't have to put the 3sgte in it. hell, i saw a 4th gen celica last night w/ a 7mgte. and like i said, it's all relative. you say the fastest is the 3sgte...but why not stick a 6cyl camry motor in there and twin-charge it? wink.gif. it's been done in an MR2. think outside the box.

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post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:42 PM
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**goes outside the box....comes back in**

Man, It's too bright!!
post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:51 PM
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Man, It's too bright!!


^^ like he said!
post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:54 PM
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**goes outside the box....comes back in**

Man, It's too bright!!


LOL, no comment! wink.gif

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stop being jackasses.. everyone knows the answer:
3S-GTE!


I don't necessarily agree. Like John said there are lots of other options. If you want the easiest (if you can call any of them easy) swap, thats it. Its the most done, and most researched of any of them.
post Feb 6, 2004 - 5:56 PM
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QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 6, 2004 - 1:43 PM)
Thanks for the help...........

Poor guy.................he sounded disappointed
post Feb 6, 2004 - 7:31 PM
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QUOTE (integra_killer @ Feb 6, 2004 - 5:15 PM)
stop being jackasses.. everyone knows the answer:
3S-GTE!

like that really helps him.

look into a turbo 5sfe, 3sge, 3sgte, and hybrids... you will get very biased answers if you just ask on messageboards.


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post Feb 6, 2004 - 7:46 PM
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you can put almose any eninge in any car.. so the answer just depends what you want and how much work time and money your will to put into it. you can do anything from a 5sfte to a Ford V8 into a celi.. just read up and i mean really read up.. and don't belive or disbelive everything you read..


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post Feb 6, 2004 - 7:50 PM
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just note that things such as converting to RWD/AWD is very difficult, very expensive and also makes your car not street legal anymore... wink.gif also before asking if you can do a 2jz swap, check the pinned thread in the performance forum.


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post Feb 7, 2004 - 1:11 AM
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You know research is what this man is doing. I don't know much about engines but when I have a question I ask people on this site to point me in the right direction. Research is what this site is for.

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QUOTE (celimanST @ Feb 7, 2004 - 12:11 AM)
You know research is what this man is doing. I don't know much about engines but when I have a question I ask people on this site to point me in the right direction. Research is what this site is for.

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post Feb 7, 2004 - 1:50 PM
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You know research is what this man is doing. I don't know much about engines but when I have a question I ask people on this site to point me in the right direction. Research is what this site is for


This site shouldn't be where the research begins, it should be where you go when you have specific question, or a question you can't answer anywhere else. Its really obvious that this is the first time this guy has even tried to find anything out, and thats fine, everybody has to start some where. But at least try to find the information on your own before you start asking questions. Also, the format of the question will not lend itself to any kind of constructive answers. It is WAAAY too general.
post Feb 7, 2004 - 2:09 PM
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The 3S-GTE option is the easiest i believe. Your car will find it difficult to handle the power of the 3S-GTE so you do not need to look any further.(You see the engine is built to race an awd car with 600-700 pounds of more weight)
the 3S-GTE is a drop-in and i know plenty of people who have done it in my country. BUT, research a lot before you make your move. Don't be an idiot like me. I bought a spare 3S-GTE engine from Japan to put in my lift back only to find out that the engine did not include the GT4 computer and did not came with the Turbo and the Intercooler. So the engine lies there in my basement and I bought a JDM GT4 from Japan.

If only i knew then what i know now after being a member of this forum for 6 months. I would save thousands of $$$$.
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QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:51 PM)
QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 6, 2004 - 3:43 PM)
QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos.  Then ask again.

Thanks for the help...........

he's saying that you need to do some of your own research. use the search function, there are so many topics about this that it's not even funny. besides, you could do your own research, and go outside of the norm. it's just not a question that has a definate answer, it's all relative to the person responding, sooooo, read those books, search the forums. that's why we have this board. the search function will answer your question in more ways than a single topic could ever dream of. wink.gif.

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Hey Skippy......
I have done my own reseach. Just wanted to get everone else's thoughts


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post Feb 7, 2004 - 7:12 PM
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Hey Skippy......
I have done my own reseach. Just wanted to get everone else's thoughts


Wow, thats believeable....
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post Feb 7, 2004 - 8:19 PM
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your a good lookin' guy speedtoe
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Unless your rich and don't care about money and you want to do something really stupid, then the 3sgte is by far the fastest, and by far the most feasible engine . Like the other 200 posts about the subject, it can easily be modified well over 500hp...thats one fast celica!
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Skippy is a great nickname for you john biggrin.gif

and what makes you saying you did your own research even less believable...... the fact that you posted this topic in the wrong forum wink.gif


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your a good lookin' guy speedtoe


I'm not sure how to take that....I'm pretty sure you're a guy, so I'm hoping that you mean I'm being an a55.....otherwise you like my a55....and I'm not cool with that.
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QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ Feb 7, 2004 - 9:01 PM)
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I'm not sure how to take that....I'm pretty sure you're a guy, so I'm hoping that you mean I'm being an a55.....otherwise you like my a55....and I'm not cool with that.

Hahahaha.

I still don't see how that's an insult.....if that's what it's supposed to be.
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QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 7, 2004 - 5:02 PM)
QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:51 PM)
QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 6, 2004 - 3:43 PM)
QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos.  Then ask again.

Thanks for the help...........

he's saying that you need to do some of your own research. use the search function, there are so many topics about this that it's not even funny. besides, you could do your own research, and go outside of the norm. it's just not a question that has a definate answer, it's all relative to the person responding, sooooo, read those books, search the forums. that's why we have this board. the search function will answer your question in more ways than a single topic could ever dream of. wink.gif.

-John-

Hey Skippy......
I have done my own reseach. Just wanted to get everone else's thoughts


Jason

If you've really done your research... there wouldn't be a need for this topic, now would there?
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3sgte, ive seen the 3rd gen 3sgte taken to 800 hp, 2nd gen @ 700...

Mine is a 3rd gen @ 295 hp to the wheels, but after this summer it should be pushing 400+ to the wheels.

PS: stock the 2nd gen is 225hp and 3rd gen is 245-260hp. they bolt up to the gt celica tranny, but from what i seen they cant handle the power. best tranny to use is 3rd gen mr2 tranny off a 96-99 JDM mr2.
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QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Feb 8, 2004 - 5:13 AM)
QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 7, 2004 - 5:02 PM)
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QUOTE (jpodstawa @ Feb 6, 2004 - 3:43 PM)
QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ Feb 6, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
The magic 8 ball says.......Read books, lots of books about engines and turbos.  Then ask again.

Thanks for the help...........

he's saying that you need to do some of your own research. use the search function, there are so many topics about this that it's not even funny. besides, you could do your own research, and go outside of the norm. it's just not a question that has a definate answer, it's all relative to the person responding, sooooo, read those books, search the forums. that's why we have this board. the search function will answer your question in more ways than a single topic could ever dream of. wink.gif.

-John-

Hey Skippy......
I have done my own reseach. Just wanted to get everone else's thoughts


Jason

If you've really done your research... there wouldn't be a need for this topic, now would there?

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the 3stge and 5sfe are basically the same motor. one is a turbo 2.0L and the 5sfe is a 2.2L 4 banger. both engines use the same block. the main difference in them is probably the head. the 2.0l turbo has lower compression than the 2.2L head due to thickness on the face. the internals for both engines is pretty much also the same. you can literally take a head off of a 2.0L turbo and put it onto a 5sfe.

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