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post Jan 23, 2013 - 10:05 PM
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Hey guys, I have a 5sfe in my celica. it's a 94 gt and I was looking for a little more, how should I say oomph out of the engine.It's decent but not good enough yet. My other car is a 350 horsepower camaro so understand my need for speed.
I've been told I can either do a head swap although with a pre 97 model that wont work? thats what I heard.
I'm not interested in a v6 swap. The only other thing I can think of is a 3sge or 3sgte swap?
I have a 5 speed tranny and I can get the stuff for less than a grand (have a buddy who runs a shop).
So its a matter of choosing and deciding the easiest option. But that 3sgte with the twin entry turbo sure sounds nice....


Also in the 5sfe can I port and polish the heads for less restriction? I've been told thats where the main problem is with the engine.
 
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post Jan 31, 2013 - 3:06 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 31, 2013 - 11:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jan 30, 2013 - 9:43 PM) *
@Special_Edy: You think the valves are almost vertical on the FE head? Compared to the wide GE head, sure, but look at this VW ABF head


Most 5S-FTE guys who've blown their engines is because of a ****ty tune, and/or a ****ty tuning solution. A piggy-back isn't always enough, even if it's a GReddy Ultimate... I don't like piggybacks, stock ECUs don't like being tricked or being told what to do. A proper EMS that lets you take full control of the engine is the #1 insurance that it won't blow if tuned right.



piggybacks do work well, however with ECU's getting smarter, they are not working as well as they used to. Ill agree that a standalone is the best way to go, the AEM EMS 4 looks like an awesome solution.



I personally would buy a Megasquirt-III with MS3X pre-assembled over the EMS-4. I have a Megasquirt-II right now in mine and it works fine so long as you don't use the stock distributor's cam trigger as the main sensor, because no EMS to date is compatible with it. (Toyota used a very complex and weird cam wheel for the 5S distributor post 1993 models, or Rev 2 5SFE)

QUOTE (momentai99 @ Jan 31, 2013 - 12:38 PM) *
yeah but how hard is it to turbo these engines? thought of buying a cheap kit from a reliable source and doing it but I didnt know if I could just do it like I would my camaro (which im thinking of doing to push 450 hp without slapping on a new head)


http://warp.scl.utah.edu/mr2/Turbo5sfe.html

Follow that to the tee and you will have minimal issues. A lot of info is crude but it will work for the most part.


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Posts in this topic
- momentai99   5sfe head swap?   Jan 23, 2013 - 10:05 PM
- - Syaoran   If you want power, get a 3S-GTE and a lot of extra...   Jan 24, 2013 - 9:50 AM
- - Special_Edy   Get a 3S-GTE/3S-GE head and swap it on so you have...   Jan 24, 2013 - 1:59 PM
- - Gwerder   I thought this was interesting. http://www.6gc.n...   Jan 25, 2013 - 11:22 AM
- - Special_Edy   Here is a 5S-FE head, note the shape of the combus...   Jan 25, 2013 - 12:08 PM
- - Smaay   ^^^ you are correct in alot of the information tha...   Jan 25, 2013 - 12:52 PM
- - momentai99   learning a lot here guys wow. taking it all in,a 5...   Jan 25, 2013 - 1:51 PM
- - Syaoran   A headswap with no modifications can be done to a ...   Jan 25, 2013 - 7:17 PM
|- - momentai99   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jan 25, 2013 - 8:17...   Jan 25, 2013 - 11:02 PM
- - Syaoran   I believe that what changes is the water passages....   Jan 26, 2013 - 12:33 PM
- - trdproven   a 5sfte is not bad if you are not going to go supe...   Jan 28, 2013 - 5:00 AM
- - Syaoran   @Special_Edy: You think the valves are almost vert...   Jan 31, 2013 - 12:43 AM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jan 30, 2013 - 9:43...   Jan 31, 2013 - 10:16 AM
- - momentai99   yeah but how hard is it to turbo these engines? th...   Jan 31, 2013 - 11:38 AM
- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 31, 2013 - 11:16 ...   Jan 31, 2013 - 3:06 PM
- - Special_Edy   My only reservation about a 5SGTE/5SGE is the shap...   Jan 31, 2013 - 7:10 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jan 31, 2013 - 8...   Feb 1, 2013 - 11:31 PM
- - presure2   have you guys even looked in the FI stickys? I ma...   Feb 3, 2013 - 10:34 AM
- - TRDweaponX   Here is a company that provides a head/cam/throttl...   Feb 3, 2013 - 11:21 PM


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