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post Feb 4, 2013 - 5:23 AM
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i have decided to put off the v6 for now and i'm going to put a 2zz into my project celica.
i will be posting pics as i get more and more into it.
in the next couple days i'll have the 5s out and be picking up the 2zz and 6 speed trans. i can't wait to get this going
and be the first of its kind. gonna be fun making the custom mounts and doing the wiring though! but yay for originality!
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my thoughts on this swap go from the facts that the 7th gen 2zz engine is known to be a powerhouse, along with the facts

that there is so much aftermarket support for it and parts are fairly cheap but very easy to get at a moments notice!

what do you think?


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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold
1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold
2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled
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post Feb 4, 2013 - 12:38 PM
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OMG!!!! you really need to ask me before you start something like this. the 2ZZ is a horrible choice to put into a 6th gen. i have covered this so many times. dude im going to lay into you for this. I have taken time to help you get started on the V6 and then you go this route. that makes me really angry!

ok first off the 2ZZ is backwards from the 7A and 5S or 3S, the header is in the back of the engine and i have no doubt that its going to hit the steering rack. so now you need a custom header that NOBODY makes! next you need to fab up all 4 engine mounts. that is time consuming and very expensive. the engine and transmission needs to be in perfect alignment or you are going to have performance issues.

Next comes the wiring, the gauges in the cars with 2ZZ engines are all digital, that means the ECU controls the gauges. you are going to need some extra wiring or maybe even a few more "boxes" to capture that signal and send it to your old analog gauges.

ok now lets talk cost. 2ZZ engines are not that cheap! and you also need a 6 speed transmission. so again just to get that you are going to spend about 3000 bucks. and let me tell you a little bit about 2ZZ engines. they are very very intolerant to abuse. if the prior owner didnt pay attention to oil there could be some bearing damage.

finally power, the 2ZZ does NOT make tons of power. bone stock the make about 165 HP and less than 120 TQ! yes there is aftermarket support for them but its expensive and it take a lot of parts to make any power in a 2ZZ. the 6th gen is a much heavier car over a 7th gen meaning its going to feel like driving an ST.

there are a number of other reasons you should not go this route. but if you got a hard on for it then good luck to you. Dont come crying to me for help after i told you not to!


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Posts in this topic
- NOVAKx17   2zz, 6 speed swap 100% custom   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:23 AM
- - njccmd2002   the cool thing i see are that 2zz are now being ab...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:26 AM
|- - NOVAKx17   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 5...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:33 AM
- - Special_Edy   Make sure you have access to a welder and an align...   Feb 4, 2013 - 10:27 AM
- - richee3   3S-GTE!   Feb 4, 2013 - 11:10 AM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 10:10...   Feb 4, 2013 - 1:16 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 1:16 ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 2:40 PM
|- - travisxcore   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 2:16 ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 3:55 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 12:16...   Feb 4, 2013 - 4:05 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 1:16 ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:04 PM
- - mkernz22   I don't see wiring being a huge issue if you c...   Feb 4, 2013 - 11:49 AM
|- - NOVAKx17   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 11:4...   Feb 4, 2013 - 4:43 PM
- - Ted95   You would prob have to swap out the front hubs to ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 12:01 PM
- - Smaay   OMG!!!! you really need to ask me ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 12:38 PM
- - mkernz22   Well I mean he's getting the whole car for ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 12:45 PM
- - Smaay   ok i just saw that you can get everything for 500 ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 12:53 PM
- - njccmd2002   hey man, your time, your money your swap, go for i...   Feb 4, 2013 - 1:02 PM
- - Smaay   actually the hub is the same between the 7th gen a...   Feb 4, 2013 - 1:05 PM
- - delusionz   i find it hard to believe that in New Zealand, you...   Feb 4, 2013 - 1:34 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 4, 2013 - 2:3...   Feb 4, 2013 - 2:13 PM
|- - Tigawoods   QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 4, 2013 - 1:3...   Feb 4, 2013 - 2:15 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yes this thing will be 100% legal in your state bu...   Feb 4, 2013 - 3:35 PM
- - mkernz22   Just f*cking swap in a V6.   Feb 4, 2013 - 3:59 PM
- - Special_Edy   Have you done measurements? The engine/transmissi...   Feb 4, 2013 - 4:09 PM
- - C-Lara   We've gotten 2zz into xds before. Its a good m...   Feb 4, 2013 - 4:44 PM
|- - NOVAKx17   QUOTE (C-Lara @ Feb 4, 2013 - 4...   Feb 4, 2013 - 4:46 PM
- - richee3   Alright, I'm done joking around now. I wrote a...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:08 PM
- - Smaay   NOBODY has made 250HP in a 2ZZ NA the 7th gen is ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:13 PM
|- - C-Lara   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 4, 2013 - 6:13 PM...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:36 PM
- - travisxcore   7th gen motors are crude. I see more 7gcs in the y...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:25 PM
- - czwalga   V8 rwd not much more work! why the hell not.   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:34 PM
- - njccmd2002   Wow all this negativism. Why?   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:37 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 4, 2013 - 5...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:55 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   the 7gc is 100-120 lbs lighter than 6th gen gt wit...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:53 PM
- - Ted95   Everything Richee said is 100% correct. If your lo...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:54 PM
- - richee3   You should put an SR20 in there. Gotta do it more ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:57 PM
- - NOVAKx17   100 lbs won't make that huge of a difference, ...   Feb 4, 2013 - 5:58 PM
- - klue   the 2zz is a turd, if your gonna do something diff...   Feb 4, 2013 - 7:03 PM
|- - C-Lara   QUOTE (klue @ Feb 4, 2013 - 8:03 PM)...   Feb 4, 2013 - 7:11 PM
|- - klue   QUOTE (C-Lara @ Feb 4, 2013 - 7...   Feb 8, 2013 - 9:39 AM
|- - C-Lara   QUOTE (klue @ Feb 8, 2013 - 9:39 AM)...   Feb 8, 2013 - 10:44 AM
- - Tigawoods   SO MANY WORDSSS   Feb 4, 2013 - 7:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   beams blacktop into 6gc its been done here on the ...   Feb 8, 2013 - 3:47 AM
- - Syaoran   C-Lara you are right, 2ZZ is supposed to be compet...   Feb 8, 2013 - 11:10 AM
- - mgnt232   good luck, gonna take a while   Feb 8, 2013 - 12:33 PM


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