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post Apr 28, 2013 - 9:01 PM
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Im doing a jdm 3sge gen 3 swap and the darn thing wont even try to crank like the battery is dead. I know im getting power b/c theres a fully charged battery in it plus all lights works ect. Basically i try to turn it over and it doesnt even crank, no response just silent. Any idea everyone? Heres a list of things i swapped in:

-JDM GEN 3 3SGE ENGINE (non beams, just the regular one) + TRANNY
-JDM COMPLETE ENGINE HARNESS (WITH THE FUSE BOX ATTACHED)
-3SGE GEN 3 ECU part numer: 89661-2D490
-ORIGINAL IGNITION LOCK CYLINDER W/ OEM KEY (alarm control built into key)

Note: key, lock cylinder, and ecu came from the same donor Celica located in Unitied Kingdoms (most likely EUR spec st202). Also note that Im using my stock body harness in my 99' celica is a USDM spec st204.

I havent installed the new lock cylinder yet, but will try to soon. Does it really matter that im using EUR spec 3sge ecu on a JDM 3sge and JDM engine harness? Could it be that the ecu i ordered has a immobilizer programmed on it and car isnt responding because im not using the key that came with ecu? And also maybe the pin outs on the ecu dont match up with the engine harness? Well i appreciate any help from anyone who did this swap or have alot of knowledge on these swap, thanks a whole lot in advance!


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post May 2, 2013 - 11:18 PM
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All connection seems to be there. I'm gonna check the wiring diagrams to really make sure everything goes where they are suppose to. I have a feeling that I have a odbII to obdI type of problem.....


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post May 3, 2013 - 7:11 AM
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QUOTE (ink_eyes_25 @ May 3, 2013 - 12:18 AM) *
All connection seems to be there. I'm gonna check the wiring diagrams to really make sure everything goes where they are suppose to. I have a feeling that I have a odbII to obdI type of problem.....




It's nothing related to OBDI/OBDII. I've done the swap and built the harness.... the starter circuit is simple. No ECU/OBD involved at all.

If it was cranking and wouldnt start then yeah it could be a whole crapload of problems... if its not cranking it's a miswire within the starter circuit.



Best $20 you can spend if you're doing a swap. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-TOYOTA-CELICA...1dc&vxp=mtr
That book has great wiring schematics, I wished I had similar ones for all my other cars. I have the generic black and white ones, but the colored ones make it so easy to read.

You really don't even need them for the 3sge, as long as you have the ECU, that and this book you should have enough info to piece everything together. But really the starter is unrelated.

This post has been edited by czwalga: May 3, 2013 - 7:22 AM


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Posts in this topic
- ink_eyes_25   1999 celica gt (st204) w/3sge gen 3 swap wont start   Apr 28, 2013 - 9:01 PM
- - kevinpetch   I'm not English speaker, please try to underst...   Apr 28, 2013 - 10:30 PM
|- - ink_eyes_25   QUOTE (kevinpetch @ Apr 28, 2013 - 11...   Apr 29, 2013 - 3:40 AM
- - Rusty   got your pm, but thought it might be better replyi...   Apr 29, 2013 - 4:22 AM
|- - ink_eyes_25   QUOTE (Rusty @ Apr 29, 2013 - 4:22 A...   Apr 29, 2013 - 4:36 AM
- - Rusty   afaik no ecu pin difference, the ecu number 89661-...   May 1, 2013 - 7:07 PM
- - czwalga   If it's not cranking it has nothing to do with...   May 2, 2013 - 7:48 AM
- - ink_eyes_25   All connection seems to be there. I'm gonna ch...   May 2, 2013 - 11:18 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (ink_eyes_25 @ May 3, 2013 - 12...   May 3, 2013 - 7:11 AM
- - richee3   Stupid question, but did you have to do anything w...   May 3, 2013 - 5:51 AM
- - ink_eyes_25   Oh on the whole wiring thing, I didn't cut the...   May 3, 2013 - 7:59 AM
- - richee3   Is the swap an auto or manual? Same goes for the c...   May 3, 2013 - 8:13 AM
|- - ink_eyes_25   .   May 5, 2013 - 3:09 AM
|- - ink_eyes_25   QUOTE (richee3 @ May 3, 2013 - 9:13 ...   May 5, 2013 - 3:13 AM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (ink_eyes_25 @ May 5, 2013 - 4...   May 5, 2013 - 7:26 AM
- - ink_eyes_25   Oops I seem to be back tracking. The harness that ...   May 8, 2013 - 2:12 AM
- - ink_eyes_25   Still working on that harness, but while I have y...   May 8, 2013 - 7:36 PM
- - 199celica   I'm surprised no one recommended the crank sen...   May 24, 2013 - 10:34 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (199celica @ May 24, 2013 - 10...   Jun 3, 2013 - 11:57 AM
- - dmk   .   Jul 8, 2013 - 11:41 AM


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