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post May 23, 2013 - 7:48 AM
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My car have the stadard air filter...Its better to change it and put a mushroom air filter? Which one do you suggest me? I have listen very good opinions about the weapon-r dragon filter?


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post May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM
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Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?


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post May 23, 2013 - 3:23 PM
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QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.


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post May 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 4:23 PM) *
QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.

Completely false. They tested this and it makes no difference where the filter is, not a noticeable one anyway. What really matters is the intake piping being a direct line into the throttlebody instead of having sections of dead and turbulent air due to stock baffling and "water protection" boxes.

Ideally, the best setup is the stock air box with a high flow air filter and intake piping off of it into the throttlebody. Our Celica's take air from the front bumper and route it through the driver fender into a intake hole up to the air filter. I have my filter positioned right behind that intake hole/plastic air route piping and it does fine.

Watch this:

http://youtu.be/gCi2yo4UqPI


QUOTE (Syaoran @ May 25, 2013 - 4:37 AM) *
I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively.

Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc.

Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom.


For selecting a correct filter, this is right on for air flow. Realistically, the K&N, AEM, Injen, Weapon R, Spectre filters are all the same when it comes to oiled filters. So don't waste your money on the high end ones. Mushroom filters are most likely to allow dirt through, and you might as well use a stocking, and Dry Flow's seem to work well...

Realistically though, you're not going to notice that much of a difference between them. So pick one you think looks and sounds cool and go with it.

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post May 30, 2013 - 9:49 AM
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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM) *
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QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.

Completely false. They tested this and it makes no difference where the filter is, not a noticeable one anyway. What really matters is the intake piping being a direct line into the throttlebody instead of having sections of dead and turbulent air due to stock baffling and "water protection" boxes.

Ideally, the best setup is the stock air box with a high flow air filter and intake piping off of it into the throttlebody. Our Celica's take air from the front bumper and route it through the driver fender into a intake hole up to the air filter. I have my filter positioned right behind that intake hole/plastic air route piping and it does fine.

Watch this:

http://youtu.be/gCi2yo4UqPI


QUOTE (Syaoran @ May 25, 2013 - 4:37 AM) *
I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively.

Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc.

Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom.


For selecting a correct filter, this is right on for air flow. Realistically, the K&N, AEM, Injen, Weapon R, Spectre filters are all the same when it comes to oiled filters. So don't waste your money on the high end ones. Mushroom filters are most likely to allow dirt through, and you might as well use a stocking, and Dry Flow's seem to work well...

Realistically though, you're not going to notice that much of a difference between them. So pick one you think looks and sounds cool and go with it.


The video was very interesting. . .I am a little bit confused now,i dont want to put a filter and lose power instead of gain. . .:-) can you take photo to see where you put it exactly and how?


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- alex_k   Air Filter which is better?   May 23, 2013 - 7:48 AM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Injen or weaponR. Up to you.   May 23, 2013 - 12:50 PM
- - nics   Do a google search, you should find a lot of revie...   May 23, 2013 - 1:02 PM
- - Box   If you're not going to do a true cold air inta...   May 23, 2013 - 1:57 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 11:57 AM...   May 23, 2013 - 1:59 PM
- - alex_k   Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will ...   May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM
|- - Box   QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 ...   May 23, 2013 - 3:23 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 4:23 PM)...   May 23, 2013 - 3:38 PM
|- - The_enD   QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 11:23 PM...   May 23, 2013 - 4:10 PM
|- - RabidTRD   QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 4:23 PM)...   May 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM
|- - Box   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2013 - 10...   May 29, 2013 - 11:58 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2013 - 10...   May 30, 2013 - 9:49 AM
- - Box   Some people like to hear the air coming into the e...   May 23, 2013 - 6:42 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like...   May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM
- - ILoveMySilly97   A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like...   May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM
- - soulshadow   If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on ...   May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM
|- - Box   QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 24, 2013 - 3...   May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Box @ May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM)...   May 24, 2013 - 9:35 AM
|- - soulshadow   QUOTE (Box @ May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM)...   May 24, 2013 - 11:11 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 25, 2013 - 12...   May 25, 2013 - 1:22 AM
- - Lil-Joe101   I found that Apexi air filters are really good as ...   May 25, 2013 - 2:09 AM
- - Syaoran   I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple...   May 25, 2013 - 3:37 AM
- - Mo_tron   Besides the fact they tested on a turbo car. A lo...   May 29, 2013 - 8:41 PM
|- - rentaspace   QUOTE (Mo_tron @ May 29, 2013 - 8:41...   May 29, 2013 - 8:57 PM
- - Box   We know ram air is good for adding power, so make ...   May 29, 2013 - 9:10 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Box @ May 29, 2013 - 9:10 PM)...   May 30, 2013 - 10:03 AM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (alex_k @ May 30, 2013 - 8:03 ...   Jun 1, 2013 - 3:11 PM
- - Box   What I was planning on doing was run it to where t...   May 30, 2013 - 1:13 PM


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