Aug 3, 2013 - 5:06 PM
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Hey guys,
Since I have a Gen III in my st204 w/o a GTFour body kit I've been watching my intake temps carefully. (Autronic brand IAT is mounted as close to the engine as I can get it without it being directly above the engine). When I first finished building the engine for the car I still had the insulation on the hood and had a semi covered enclosure for the air filter. The hottest my air intake would get was 80C (crazy!) and that was sitting in traffic with no airflow over my I/C (front mount). Then driving it was around 65C. At night driving it would go down to 60C. After pondering what to do and talking with some drifting friends, I ended up raising up the rear of my hood 4mm, which isn't even noticeable, removing the weather stripping. And also removing the insulation from the hood and making a full enclosure around the airfilter out of plastic and Plexiglas relevant intake info(shortened from above): big fmic (air/air), and Autronic brand IAT mounted two feet from TB inlet, not directly above engine. Numbers below are before and after a full air filter enclosure and raised rear of hood 4mm. -------------------------Before-------After hot day in traffic------80C---------60C hot day on hwy-------65C---------45C night on hwy----------60C---------40C (80c is 176f, 65c is 149f, 60c is 140f, 45c is 113f, 40c is 104f) So now that I've mentioned my numbers, I would like to know what your numbers are. I'm expecting it to be cooler once I get the hood vents. I would like to know what the norm is for this engine. Also please mention if you have the fmic or tmic This post has been edited by match220: Aug 3, 2013 - 5:13 PM -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Aug 7, 2013 - 9:09 PM
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how hard would it be to start an "engine management" sub-section on the forums here? I can see how this topic would go under forced induction, but if we had an engine management section it would be a great way to have a lot of consolidated information similar to what we've been discussing here. The problem is, that the 3 of us are part of maybe 5 people on this forum that have an management system... You are better of looking at mr2oc. This forum is even better and you can learn a lot: http://efi101.com/forum/ wow..only 5 of us? hmm, ok then. I thought there would be more. yeah, I spent the money to go through efi university's certification program back in 06 or 07. Well worth the money spent! I fell in love with the Autronic there since we did a lot of playing around with it and some other EMS's on the dynos they have. Ben Strader is a genius I'm pulling that number out of my ass, but the majority of people don't have one. Thats really cool that you took their program. I heard good things about it. I just recently found their forums and there seems to be some good tech talk there that is pretty universal. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 7, 2013 - 9:32 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 13, '06 From Kaimuki, HI Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
Thats really cool that you took their program. I heard good things about it. I just recently found their forums and there seems to be some good tech talk there that is pretty universal. it was very informative, learning to tune a car on paper and then plug the numbers in to the ecu. Tons of cool formulas and calculation. Testing coil duration and spark heat...etc...really cool stuff. I feel I have forgotten some things, but I still have my book from there that I flip through and am reminded of things. I used to spend some time on their forums, but that was a long time ago, I don't even know if my login is still valid, or if I even remember what it is. -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
match220 what are your air intake temps? Aug 3, 2013 - 5:06 PM
delusionz my temps are getting up around 40-50c and its wint... Aug 3, 2013 - 8:24 PM
match220 QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 3, 2013 - 3:2... Aug 3, 2013 - 9:24 PM
delusionz yes the vent could have alot to do with it, i have... Aug 3, 2013 - 10:35 PM
delusionz what about your water T? my stock sensor is readin... Aug 3, 2013 - 10:40 PM
match220 QUOTE its strange you get such high temps even wit... Aug 3, 2013 - 11:59 PM
lagos You should pretty much ignore any intake air temps... Aug 4, 2013 - 8:56 PM
match220 QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 4, 2013 - 3:56 PM... Aug 5, 2013 - 2:36 AM
lagos QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 5, 2013 - 3:36... Aug 5, 2013 - 7:34 PM
match220 QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 5, 2013 - 2:34 PM... Aug 5, 2013 - 7:43 PM
lagos Yeah its all aluminum and extremely light weight. ... Aug 5, 2013 - 7:50 PM
match220 QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 5, 2013 - 2:50 PM... Aug 5, 2013 - 7:54 PM
lagos Some people also recommend to actually mount the I... Aug 5, 2013 - 7:56 PM
match220 QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 5, 2013 - 2:56 PM... Aug 5, 2013 - 8:04 PM
lagos QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 5, 2013 - 9:04... Aug 5, 2013 - 9:22 PM
delusionz in the stock setup theres a temp sensor in the air... Aug 6, 2013 - 4:33 PM
match220 QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 6, 2013 - 11... Aug 6, 2013 - 5:24 PM
lagos Yes, the reason why the stock engine has a second ... Aug 7, 2013 - 12:38 AM
delusionz midnight winter run log, just loading up 3rd, 4th,... Aug 7, 2013 - 1:50 PM
match220 how hard would it be to start an "engine mana... Aug 7, 2013 - 4:31 PM
lagos QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 7, 2013 - 5:31... Aug 7, 2013 - 4:53 PM
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