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post Mar 4, 2004 - 11:47 PM
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i did a search and have been trying to find info on what goes wrong when people try to swap a 4a engine into their celi's. it said in the feasible swap sticky that there is some problem when you use the 4a tranny and then i read about something going wrong with the power steering pump. does anyone know what exactly the problem is? coomer and mynzeyes, you guys are the ones with the experience, i'm particularly interested in your input.

btw, i know this topic has been discussed a lot, but there is no real clear cut info on it, so if anyone knows where i can find some please let me know.

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post Mar 6, 2004 - 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Mar 6, 2004 - 6:16 AM)
will i have any problems with axle length of the stock 4a's, or should i use my 7a axles.

now for my dumbest questions of the thread (brace yourself):
will the e51 tranny come with an ae101 or ae92 clip?
- is there a site that lists basic specs of the different 4a engine/tranny combos? i looked at club4a but i didn't find anything. (google will be the next stop)
- i'm not looking to go cheap but with the list of parts i want to get i would like to save money where i can.

do you guys recomend a limited slip?
- my guess is that i don't have to worry too much about it unless i get over
200hp.

Either set of axles should fit, and there have been people saying that the lengths are correct also... but to be sure... test it out. Whether it fits or not, you'll still have the 7A axles which will fit.

As far as the tranny goes, I believe it comes on the late model map sensored 4AGZs which is on the 1992+ AE101 levins and possibly even on the slightly older MAP version of the AE92 Levin/truenos. The late model ones were tuned slightly different, used DLI (distributor-less-ignition), had slightly higher compression, and came factory with slightly higher boost. Overall, they're just as capable as the older distributor types... but because they're afm, they're easier to tune. LSD is good, but I don't know if any of those trannies came with factory LSD. Some claim the 6 speed C56 had factory LSD... but no-one really knows for sure. I'll figure it out eventually though. It will be good to have LSD, but you should be ok without it. IF you plan to overdrive it though... then LSD is reccommended, considering a good Nevo or HKS pulley can boost around 12-14 psi and drop around 160-170 horses to the wheels....


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Posts in this topic
- DustyBurns30   4a-gze swap   Mar 4, 2004 - 11:47 PM
- - 3FingersCelica   From what I've read a major problem is the unc...   Mar 5, 2004 - 12:36 AM
- - DustyBurns30   if i got a front clip would that make the differen...   Mar 5, 2004 - 12:44 AM
- - 3FingersCelica   I'm not sure if the radiator or power steering...   Mar 5, 2004 - 12:49 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   his 4age could be quite different on the water rou...   Mar 5, 2004 - 2:06 AM
- - Kwanza26   You can just either PS pump so long as you custom ...   Mar 5, 2004 - 3:12 AM
- - DustyBurns30   is there any way around using my stock tranny, cau...   Mar 5, 2004 - 3:34 AM
- - Kwanza26   To add a bit more... you can swap flywheels. I be...   Mar 5, 2004 - 8:07 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   um... the c52 is good for around 200hp.... so it w...   Mar 5, 2004 - 8:24 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 6, 2004 - 1:24 AM) and...   Mar 5, 2004 - 10:24 PM
- - DustyBurns30   will i have any problems with axle length of the s...   Mar 6, 2004 - 1:16 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Mar 6, 2004 - 6:16 AM) will ...   Mar 6, 2004 - 12:21 PM
- - DustyBurns30   sweet, thanks for the info. moderators, can we m...   Mar 6, 2004 - 2:44 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   yes..... they all use the same parts (except for s...   Mar 7, 2004 - 2:41 AM
- - qatar11   Coomer, John and Ryan have the mechanical part don...   Mar 7, 2004 - 2:46 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Mar 7, 2004 - 7:46 AM) Coomer, Jo...   Mar 7, 2004 - 3:29 AM
- - qatar11   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 7, 2004 - 1:29 AM) QUO...   Mar 7, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - Mynzeyes   seeing as how i'm using the tranny out of the ...   Mar 7, 2004 - 1:57 PM
- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 7, 2004 - 2:29 AM) QUO...   Mar 7, 2004 - 1:59 PM
- - DustyBurns30   mynzeyes, did you use the 7a-fe wiring harness or ...   Mar 7, 2004 - 4:18 PM
- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Mar 7, 2004 - 3:18 PM) mynze...   Mar 7, 2004 - 5:40 PM
- - FAQdaWorld   Actually i dont have the mechanical part done, I...   Mar 7, 2004 - 6:05 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   like i said... (at least on ae92 corollas) the bac...   Mar 7, 2004 - 7:17 PM
- - DustyBurns30   yeah, i read about that one guys swap. i had it in...   Mar 7, 2004 - 9:53 PM


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