Jun 23, 2013 - 3:11 AM
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Alright, so this is how I swapped the superstrut tie rods onto my AT200 rack and pinion. We didnt swap it on the another Celica and we snapped the linkage in half so we found out the reason for the C curve the hard way. Here you go. Suggestions and questions welcome.
Compare ![]() Dissasemble ![]() They are the same ![]() ![]() Pry the gold back then use a set of pliers and a 19mm to separate the inner rod from the rack and pinion ![]() Separated ![]() Difference is minor, an alignment should fix any discrepancies ![]() Attatch ![]() Attatched ![]() ![]() ![]() Attatch Boot ![]() Done, rinse and repeat for the other side. ![]() any thoughts are welcome, I havent driven the car yet but ill post again to update with problems if any arise. This post has been edited by DST94: Nov 18, 2013 - 11:23 AM -------------------- |
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Nov 7, 2013 - 1:14 AM
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![]() ![]() Stock ST205 superstrut front spring and ST204/ST202 mcppherson springs are 30.5cm ![]() OEM thin aluminum crush tubes vs Aftermarket Stainless steel Crush tubes from GT4OC.net ![]() Superstrut Oil Filled Cartridges vs Mcpherson 6th gen Celica Gas filled Cartridges ![]() ![]() ![]() Although the differences in length between both cartridges are different the overall length of where each cartridges fits into their own housing is the same. If you look at the picture I have with the inner housing depth of the super strut, it is 32.5cm (a bit longer so the oil can flow into the base of oil filled super strut cartridge) and the body length of McPherson cartridge is 33cm. Mcpherson Cartridge will not fit into Superstrut housing because of the crimped sectioned toward the bottom end I was able to fit my ST204 caliper and the caliper piston is loose so that's why it looks crooked. So I used 5 mm washers to space the rotor to center the rotor to the brake caliper bracket or you can use a 5mm spacer, but the lugs barely fit on there. I would recommend getting extended studs if you wish to drive the car or what would be best is to shave 5mm off the brake caliper mounting point on the gt4 knuckle. The circled part of the brake shield I had to hammer so that the bracket would sit properly. of course if you have the 275mm ss3/GT brake dust shields you won't need to hammer that part. I had to force my ST204 abs sensor into the mounting point on the ST205 knuckle where abs sensor fits, but if you fit it into a ST202 superstrut knuckle, will work just fine (for some odd reason, still under research). ![]() GT4 KNUCKLE mounting point for brake caliper ![]() SS-III KNUCKLE mounting point for Caliper Bracket 20250604_184011 by Justin Towers, on FlickrThe mounting points for the super strut bracket are slightly further away from the center of the knuckle in order to accommodate the bigger diameter superstrut bearing. So superstrut bracket is a bit more shallow which therefore seats/sits into superstrut knuckle different than McPherson bracket. 20230910_204021 by Justin Towers, on FlickrThese SS-III brake pads are the same as 94-95 MR2 turbo pads (just to confirm http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_27/Category_11/2672) ![]() GT4 Offset from back of mounting point for brake caliper ![]() BOTH ST205 and ST202 (SS-II/SS-III) HAVE THE SAME OFFSET OF 7 Centimeters ![]() ![]() ![]() these rear end links come from 2001-2003 Mazda Protege with sport suspension and are 16cm from center to center stud ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So only downside i see too converting is that superstrut parts will add 18 lbs of unsprung weight to each side. So your front end will be 36 lbs heavier. This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 9, 2025 - 2:51 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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DST94 McPherson to Superstrut Conversion Jun 23, 2013 - 3:11 AM
enderswift Never understood why everyone considered the steer... Jun 23, 2013 - 10:01 AM
njccmd2002 Looks like an inch difference times two. And whe... Jun 23, 2013 - 11:01 AM
DST94 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jun 23, 2013 - 9... Jun 23, 2013 - 12:33 PM
playr158 Yup I went RHD and kept McPherson...modding the st... Jun 23, 2013 - 1:33 PM
LimitedGT4 Thank you for demostrating to the forum the simpli... Jun 23, 2013 - 10:01 PM
DST94 QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Jun 23, 2013 - 8... Jun 24, 2013 - 10:27 PM
LimitedGT4 the first time i swapped i used the stock linkages... Jun 24, 2013 - 11:19 PM
BonzaiCelica I'll leave this here. thanks to qatar11 for me... Sep 12, 2013 - 10:28 PM
BonzaiCelica Information provided Enderswift!!! (ho... Nov 6, 2013 - 10:03 PM
BonzaiCelica concerning the bulge that you see in the superstru... Nov 7, 2013 - 12:53 AM
yellowchinaman WOW! Hold up!
So you are going from Macphe... Nov 11, 2013 - 12:10 PM
Rusty QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 7, 2013 - 6... Nov 11, 2013 - 3:09 PM
BonzaiCelica chinaman. read the superstrut thread you can find ... Nov 11, 2013 - 4:53 PM
enderswift Why do you want to use the gt swaybar? Nov 12, 2013 - 10:36 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (enderswift @ Nov 12, 2013 - 11... Nov 12, 2013 - 6:55 PM
LimitedGT4 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 12, 2013 - 7... Nov 12, 2013 - 7:45 PM
enderswift QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 12, 2013 - 7... Nov 13, 2013 - 11:05 AM
njccmd2002 apparently superstrut parts here in the US are che... Nov 13, 2013 - 7:53 AM
Trodai Hi I have a st205 gt4 which i have converted to Mc... Nov 23, 2013 - 5:10 PM
yellowchinaman yes I too find it strange when people go from McPh... Nov 25, 2013 - 10:34 AM
Trodai QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Nov 25, 2013 - 1... Nov 25, 2013 - 12:43 PM
enderswift QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Nov 25, 2013 - 1... Nov 25, 2013 - 2:27 PM
bri-boy This is not only possible but actually very easy t... Jun 18, 2014 - 6:04 AM
enderswift If you are trying to convert your car to superstru... Sep 1, 2014 - 3:42 PM
DST94 QUOTE (enderswift @ Sep 1, 2014 - 1... Sep 1, 2014 - 5:38 PM
BonzaiCelica not to confuse anyone else but the 93-98 supra and... Sep 1, 2014 - 5:50 PM
njccmd2002 buy new, not used... they last longer. Sep 1, 2014 - 6:06 PM
enderswift Guess I should post this here. NOT CONFIRMED YET:
... Sep 9, 2014 - 10:54 PM
BonzaiCelica even though the bottom of this superstrut cartridg... Oct 4, 2014 - 2:44 AM
BonzaiCelica Edophus was right the shock housing is pinched on ... Oct 6, 2014 - 3:15 AM
enderswift Aftermarket source for st205 bearings confirmed:
... Feb 12, 2015 - 5:29 PM
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mi645 Takes math class and still fails. Whats going on??... May 22, 2015 - 12:44 AM
enderswift Sigh. Bro, why are you driving urself crazy . Just... May 23, 2015 - 10:31 AM
qatar11 I can confirm all you need is an off the shelf inn... May 27, 2015 - 4:34 AM
BonzaiCelica bump added pictures to the 1st page. like the inne... Jun 30, 2015 - 1:22 PM
BonzaiCelica Well as this thread was created to make a super st... Nov 17, 2015 - 5:24 PM
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