 Red Top Beams, Looking to buy, need advice. |
 Nov 29, 2013 - 2:49 PM
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I've been looking around online for a redtop beams and wanted to get you guy's opinion on what I've found.
$1499.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Toyota-3SGE-Be...6aa&vxp=mtr $1384 http://www.jdmenginescorp.com/engine_detai...-trans-wire-ecu $1995 http://www.jdmenginezone.com/engine-detail...top--98_99.html -------------------- "As a professor of science, I assure you we did, in fact, evolve from filthy monkey-men." -Prof. Farnsworth
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Dec 5, 2013 - 3:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '13 From Tomball, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.
-------------------- "As a professor of science, I assure you we did, in fact, evolve from filthy monkey-men." -Prof. Farnsworth
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Dec 5, 2013 - 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 4:04 PM)  Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg. How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience. Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages. A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal? |
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Dec 6, 2013 - 1:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 5, 2013 - 7:28 PM) QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 4:04 PM) Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg. How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience. Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages. A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal? there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS and a BEAMS might make 200 HP to the crank but you will be lucky to get 170 to the wheels -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Dec 6, 2013 - 8:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '13 From Cal Bay Area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 6, 2013 - 2:13 AM) there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS How do you feel about bumping the beams vs v6 thread so we can argue about this? Fun? Yeah? 
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Dec 6, 2013 - 8:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 6, 2013 - 5:32 PM) QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 6, 2013 - 2:13 AM) there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS How do you feel about bumping the beams vs v6 thread so we can argue about this? Fun? Yeah? no leave that thread dead where it belongs. The BEAMS has High Performance qualities like VVT but its far from a high performance title. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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