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post Mar 11, 2014 - 3:54 PM
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Posted up on mr2oc because I see a lot more people there pushing into the higher hp ranges im looking for. Looking to hit around 600-700whp dyno queeen (incase anyone is a member on both sites just looking for as much info as I can get). They are giving me a ton of info over there too. I've read through Manny's build for jim a few times as well as others

Looking for input on suggestions to get up to this power goal, my budget I would like to keep around 10k (not including the new GT or 3rd gen clip). It is flexible but pouring more than that into my $3k shell is painful to think about lol.
I realize this post is long to get to the point, what would your swap consist of to achieve my power goal?

So I’ll be deployed for 7-8 months making a whole lot of money and when I get back my plan is to find a clean GT and build up a 5SGTE. The car will be a ‘sleeper ‘ for a while as all the money I’m looking to spend will be in the performance department. Eventually the 3s I have now will go into Tina’s car and stay the SSIII look since its clean, and the new GT will get the supra exterior done with more time than a week like I had with my orange celi now.

Most likely buy another 3rd gen 3SGTE clip. Mainly for the extra parts, uncut harness, and E153. May keep the extra 3S for replacement parts as they go bad on my other one, or sell it not 100% on anything yet.

ATS 2.3L
ATS Head
ATS Racing has a lot of the parts I would need. Looking at the 2.3L 5S (98+ stroker) block seems to be the strongest 5S block I can find. They have 3S heads as well that are ‘700whp’ tested and mr2 owners seem to swear by ATS so as long as I don’t hear anything bad about them I may as well get one that all the work has already been done on and proven to handle 700.
They have cams, gears, turbo setup, injectors ect. But looking into all my options there. Again any input here from experience or knowledge will be greatly appreciated.
Ive read mixed reviews on if the 255 Walbro is enough for this hp goal. Also injectors, what should I be running to hit my power goal (600-700).
Almost forgot. I know I have E53 here in NC but not sure if I have it back in NY. I would like to run it on pump gas (93 or 100) I realize the e53 makes a huge difference in power, but not sure exactly.


As far as the turbo setup, looking at the 6262. It can put out the hp goal im looking for without being the largest turbo ever made. Keep in mind I still want to drive the car, its not a purely track car, but not my DD either.

I know some people here like Art swear by the Megasquirt. I know very little about EMS so any info here would be great. I have a performance shop here in NC that has no problem with tuning, and awesome reviews (they’ve done a few mr2 3S’s, so somewhat familiar) .

There is a ton of info out there I know that, Im reading as much as I can, but not much time to do it out here in the desert lol
Thanks for any info I know this post is extremely long but im pretty committed to doing this, and in my planning stage. I would like to for once do it right the first time tongue.gif I know there will be hiccups (a lot) along the way but planning ive learned it the most crucial part I tend to skip over
Also my PM box only has like 3% free so reply here.

This post has been edited by mgnt232: Mar 11, 2014 - 4:46 PM


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post Mar 18, 2014 - 1:00 PM
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Hello!
I use e85 here in sweden and it works great. I use walbros new 450 pump and have dynoed 600engine hp and 811nm torque. I use a borg warner twin entry turbo from the s200 series. if you are lookin for 600+ hp please look at the borg warner s300 range from 62mm and up.
I used an borg warner s254 and dynoed those numbers. this year i have a s256 custom built with extended tip on the turbinewheel as well.
Going to dyno later this spring.
I use a old pre 98 5s block and all the other parts are 3s-ge gen3 from a st202.
The good thing on the st202 3s-ge heads here in europe is that they are made for top mounted injectors.
I use 1600cc denso style injectors from fivo o motorsport and they works great, my car idle on 900rpm steady. and i use the gsc gen 3 stage 1 cams.

ohh i forgot i have 2,2bar@4300rpm with this turbo and its not BB,


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