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> +20 hp!!!!!!!!!!!!!, does anyone know about this
post Mar 9, 2004 - 7:24 PM
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RoverGuy

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can anyonelink to resistor ad thingy/ tell me what they are doing in this thing...or if it works?
 
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post Mar 12, 2004 - 3:35 PM
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This is the last time I'm going to post about this.

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What has pissed me off now is that your saying "get your head outta ur ass" or "what do you know, nothing."


Where did I tell you to pull your head out of your ass? I never said you know nothing. I did say, you don't know enough about this topic to be preaching to people about it. You're taking this way too personally and putting words in my mouth.

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You've now attacked me, and thats pissed me off because I didnt call you out or ne thing, i wasnt even speakign to yo, I never said nething you said was wrong. So why you gotta attack me?


Again, don't take thinks so personally. This is the internet.

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And if what i've said is wrong, correct me?


Thats what I'm trying to do. Sorry if I'm being an ass or if you can't take the criticism.

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So does the SAFC not change the signal?


Yes, this you are correct about. Thats the basis about which its designed.

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Does it not cause the ecu to change the timing?


Now we have to start to get specific. It does change the timing but this can be used in your favor if you know how its doing it. As you lean the fuel curve out, you advance the timing at that point. Here you have to also factor in the fuel system and the tuning of the RRFPR so that the adjustments made with the SAFC will work both for your fuel and timing needs (and BTW, the timing changes it makes are very small, almost not even worth talking about in anything but a race engine). As you can see, its a very complicated relationship but it can work, and work well.

You made a blanket statement that the SAFC and all piggyback computers cause knock. Thats what you said. That statement is incorrect, and misleading.

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All im trying to get across, is that messing with the things the SAFC does has the ABILITY to cause knock.


This is also not correct. Bad tuning CAN cause knock on an SAFC equipped car. It can also cause knock on a NON-SAFC equipped car. Its not a fault of the equipement as you originally suggested, its a fault of the tuner.

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Your older than i am no reason to be spouting insults.


When did I ever insult you? I said you don't know what you're talking about, but never did I insult you.

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You said it urself, poor tuning will cause knock, so you why are u arguing thats what i was talking about.


If thats what you're talking about then you're right. But thats not what you're saying.

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not like you get the SAFC and you automatically get knock


Correct.

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no i was simply saying that it increases yoru chances of getting it if its not used properly.


Increases it over what? Leaving the car stock? Sure, anything you change CAN cause the car to detonate. The SAFC is a much more complicated thing to deal with than an intake or an exhaust and as a result it is more risky if used improperly.

Posts in this topic
- RoverGuy   +20 hp!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Mar 9, 2004 - 7:24 PM
- - slipgun   they are screwing with your numbers going to the e...   Mar 9, 2004 - 7:28 PM
- - 94silverst   This is a stupid product!! All it is is a ...   Mar 9, 2004 - 9:58 PM
- - snadman   You should really use the search feature instead o...   Mar 9, 2004 - 10:14 PM
- - RoverGuy   obviously i wasnt going to buy it i just wondered ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 9:34 AM
- - SpedToe169   uh-huh If you just wanted to know what size resi...   Mar 10, 2004 - 10:32 AM
- - RoverGuy   sure i would try it, i have tons of resistors and ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 6:15 PM
- - RoverGuy   plus with the implementation of my new exhaust and...   Mar 10, 2004 - 6:16 PM
- - Supersprynt   Is that the air fuel mod? It just changes the volt...   Mar 10, 2004 - 6:17 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   KILL THE nOOb   Mar 10, 2004 - 6:32 PM
- - RoverGuy   ok so for those of you who don't know, colder ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 7:09 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (RoverGuy @ Mar 11, 2004 - 12:09 AM) ok...   Mar 10, 2004 - 7:30 PM
- - Supersprynt   Fooling your ECU is BAD, thats why SAFCs being is ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 8:12 PM
- - Drocay   those things are trash as a joke we put one on my ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 9:04 PM
- - snadman   BTW, RoverGuy...the reason I was beaing pretty mea...   Mar 10, 2004 - 10:19 PM
- - RoverGuy   ok...i see your point but your engine does breathe...   Mar 11, 2004 - 12:21 PM
- - Supersprynt   The elimination of cats and air box and restrictiv...   Mar 11, 2004 - 1:31 PM
- - SpedToe169   You're oversimplifying this way too much. You...   Mar 11, 2004 - 3:30 PM
- - Supersprynt   Said it before, i'll say it again...fooling ur...   Mar 11, 2004 - 4:26 PM
- - SpedToe169   QUOTE Said it before, i'll say it again...fool...   Mar 11, 2004 - 5:22 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   omg, play nice, but I have to say, that the safc, ...   Mar 12, 2004 - 12:24 AM
- - Supersprynt   Yeah really WTF man? Why are you asking me questio...   Mar 12, 2004 - 8:24 AM
- - SpedToe169   My question to you is, do you know how the toyota ...   Mar 12, 2004 - 9:23 AM
- - Supersprynt   What has pissed me off now is that your saying ...   Mar 12, 2004 - 9:32 AM
- - SpedToe169   This is the last time I'm going to post about ...   Mar 12, 2004 - 3:35 PM
- - Supersprynt   Sorry you said "pull your head out" i ad...   Mar 12, 2004 - 4:30 PM


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