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post May 9, 2014 - 5:01 PM
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I want to see if anybody has used pour-in head gasket sealer with any success.
I have decided it would be best to replace the whole motor than to do a head job on this one, and so I want to use some head gasket in a bottle to get me through the summer till I can do the motor in the fall.

I have a 1994 GT with a 5sfe, and the guy I bought it from put a used motor in it before he sold it to me. I understand now that the motor is most likely from a 97+ Camry and is the slightly different 5fse, they had to modify the bell housing to make it fit.



and I can see the paint-pen marks on the front of the head, which to me means he bought it from a pick-n-pull kind of salvage yard. It also leaks slightly from the intake side of the head somewhere, though not bad enough to leave spots in the driveway, and also leaks from the oil cooler I think. It looses about a quart every 2000 miles.

And when I talked to the shop I trust about doing the head they said it was 8 hours for the head and only about 10 to replace the whole motor.
So to me it makes more sense to find a good condition used 5sfe and take it apart and do a good Cometic gasket and a full valve grind on it and the timing belt kit all before we even have it put in the car. Then I can also have a proper 5sfe that fits my transmission. (wtb 5speed bell housing)

but funds for this project won't happen until the fall so in the meantimes I am gonna try some pour-in stuff. Right now the motor is pushing exhaust gas into the coolant. at first I would need to add maybe a quart of coolant a week, but is getting worse although I have not seen it smoke and the plugs are not wet or fouled. but there are traces of oil on the radiator cap and the overflow tube. When I accelerate hard I can feel slight "pockets" in the torque of the car which I take to be a bad sign. So for now I really don't run it any harder than I need to and try to keep below 3200.

From what I've read you just need to take care to do it right, take out the thermostat and give the system a good flush so all coolant, oil, and grime is cleaned out. then fill with clean water and let it idle for an hour or two, then shut it off and let it cool over night. taking care to not push it too hard for the first couple of weeks after.
What is supposed to be the best out there is Steel Seal https://www.steelseal.com/ but they literally want $100 for a bottle of it. kindasad.gif http://www.jbtoolsales.com/crc-401232-perm...CFYlhfgodmw0AnA
this other stuff is only $35 , and blue devil stuff is like $30 .
So has anybody actually tried any of these?

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post May 10, 2014 - 1:53 PM
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thanks for the tough-love guys.
ive been looking at vids of people using the stuff and it definitely uses lots of little particles, which is just gonna ruin the whole system.
at least the steel seal is all liquid, but im sure once you use that you won't be able to go back later and actually redo the head.

so I've one more final for Vector Mechanics on Monday then I've got 3 weeks off, and I work at the school so there's no work while we're on break either.
I do have a friend who can help me with this, because I don't quite have all the equipment I need or a garage. ...I just feel like I'm bugging him cause I only call when I need help with my car smile.gif which is about every 4 months when the break between semesters comes.

but if I do it like this it will just be to take it apart and replace the head gasket and the seals I can easily get to. I wouldn't be able to take it down to the machine shop and wait 3 days for them to do a full valve cleanup like I wanted.

they've got the Victor Reins full kit on Rockauto for $90, or the Cometic kit is like $150, new bolts, and the oil cooler gaskets. what else should I do while I've got it apart? maybe I should take the extra time and send it to the machine shop, it's got 150,000 on it. I think it would only be another $150

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