Jun 13, 2014 - 8:08 AM
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In the near future, I plan on redoing the valves etc on the head and came across some ebay sites that sells remanufactured heads. all work done with cams etc for under $300. Engine is 7A-FE and my car is 1996 Celica ST (AT-200) with manual transmission.
What is your experience with these heads and what advise you can give me that can help me decide. Thank You MSK This post has been edited by msk59: Jun 13, 2014 - 8:09 AM |
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Jun 22, 2014 - 2:43 PM
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The 5sfe isnt worth the trouble.
Maybe a 4age If you wanted something spicier which would utilize the existing drivetrain, you need a custom harness and the ecu. A 3sge, 3sgte or 1mz would require a GT drivetrain. The 3s engines are the only ones that you could use a factory harness on, they would bolt into a GT. 1mz is about as cheap as a 5sfe or 7a but then you need a lot of custom parts besides the GT drivetrain, exhaust, motor mount, clutch and wiring harness to name a few. Boosting a 7a is always an option too. I was trying to figure out if 4age heads or camshafts would swap into a 7a but I lacked the interest to finish the hardcore research. |
Jun 30, 2014 - 1:59 AM
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The 5sfe isnt worth the trouble. Maybe a 4age If you wanted something spicier which would utilize the existing drivetrain, you need a custom harness and the ecu. A 3sge, 3sgte or 1mz would require a GT drivetrain. The 3s engines are the only ones that you could use a factory harness on, they would bolt into a GT. 1mz is about as cheap as a 5sfe or 7a but then you need a lot of custom parts besides the GT drivetrain, exhaust, motor mount, clutch and wiring harness to name a few. Boosting a 7a is always an option too. I was trying to figure out if 4age heads or camshafts would swap into a 7a but I lacked the interest to finish the hardcore research. I was doing a little research for a friend once and I found on various 4A-GE oriented forums a couple of bottom end swaps. It's somewhat easier than the 3SGTE/GE head onto the 5SFE, as the bore for the pistons is the same so you can use 4A-GE pistons and no custom piston is necessary. However, some things change and you have to get a Porsche timing belt because the block is taller on the 7AFE. The 7A-FE also has a better design on the rods compared to the 5S-FE, 4A-GE and 3S-GTE in the sense that it already uses bolts and not "studs", which can be replaced for stronger ARP2000 units from a Renault Clio 16v for around $120. A high compression, bigport 7age 1.8L hybrid with stock rods can rev up to 8600RPM with no problems if the rod bolts are used and it'll make 200whp if not more with proper mods (ITB, cams and exhaust mainly) It seemed very attractive to me to go backwards and convert my GT celica into an ST with a Celica GT-S 2000+ 6-speed for an extra hundred wheel horsepower while N/A, but then I decided against it because I prefer turbos... -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
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msk59 Remanufactured Head (ebay) Jun 13, 2014 - 8:08 AM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jun 13, 2014 - 9:08 A... Jun 13, 2014 - 8:04 PM
VavAlephVav you can find a used head with maybe 150k on it at ... Jun 13, 2014 - 11:59 PM
Smaay with cams? yeah i highly doubt that. I dont know w... Jun 14, 2014 - 1:01 AM
msk59 here is the link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-... Jun 14, 2014 - 6:47 AM
Special_Edy For that price or less you could have your origina... Jun 14, 2014 - 11:36 PM
msk59 I have not checked the local shops here yet so I w... Jun 15, 2014 - 12:01 AM
VavAlephVav when I searched for 'cylinder heads' on go... Jun 15, 2014 - 7:22 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jun 15, 2014 - 7... Jun 15, 2014 - 7:51 PM
msk59 Special Edy: You make a very good point in terms o... Jun 15, 2014 - 9:44 PM
VavAlephVav This is the same boat I'm in. I could manage t... Jun 16, 2014 - 11:34 AM
VavAlephVav I should add that in the past I thought I was bett... Jun 16, 2014 - 11:40 AM
msk59 Yes that is my worry too. The tricks of the trade ... Jun 16, 2014 - 1:20 PM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jun 16, 2014 - 2:20 P... Jun 16, 2014 - 9:29 PM
msk59 Langing. I did read the entire post, a few times ... Jun 16, 2014 - 9:53 PM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jun 16, 2014 - 10:53 ... Jun 17, 2014 - 7:42 AM
msk59 LOL. I never read 'Gone with the wind' nor... Jun 17, 2014 - 7:56 AM
VavAlephVav the first book I ever read was the uncut version o... Jun 17, 2014 - 8:45 AM
Langing QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jun 17, 2014 - 9... Jun 17, 2014 - 9:41 AM
VavAlephVav Well, we have this little tire shop and the old gu... Jun 17, 2014 - 10:51 AM
Langing QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jun 17, 2014 - 11... Jun 17, 2014 - 2:21 PM
msk59 Never read that one either. I used to watch too m... Jun 17, 2014 - 10:58 AM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jun 17, 2014 - 11:58 ... Jun 17, 2014 - 1:53 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (Langing @ Jun 17, 2014 - 1:53... Jun 30, 2014 - 11:36 AM
Special_Edy I got a 5S from a 93 Camry with 163k in the junkya... Jun 21, 2014 - 7:26 PM
Langing QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jun 21, 2014 - 8... Jun 21, 2014 - 7:46 PM
Special_Edy Yeah you just need more parts. Some of the electro... Jun 22, 2014 - 12:42 AM
Langing QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jun 22, 2014 - 1... Jun 22, 2014 - 8:55 AM
msk59 Soooo back to my original question: Are the afterm... Jun 30, 2014 - 6:54 PM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jun 30, 2014 - 7:54 P... Jul 1, 2014 - 7:55 AM
VavAlephVav You can add a poll if you go back and edit the ori... Jul 1, 2014 - 10:22 AM
msk59 OK here is my situation, which may or may not diff... Jul 1, 2014 - 12:51 PM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jul 1, 2014 - 1:51 PM... Jul 1, 2014 - 2:46 PM
VavAlephVav To me the rebuilt head is just as good as a head t... Jul 1, 2014 - 1:20 PM
Langing QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jul 1, 2014 - 2... Jul 1, 2014 - 3:12 PM
Special_Edy Whats the shipping on a cylinder head? Do you have... Jul 1, 2014 - 2:46 PM
Langing QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jul 1, 2014 - 3... Jul 1, 2014 - 2:51 PM
Special_Edy Three angle valve job; lap the valves in; check th... Jul 1, 2014 - 3:57 PM
Langing QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jul 1, 2014 - 4... Jul 1, 2014 - 7:49 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (Langing @ Jul 1, 2014 - 8:49 ... Jul 2, 2014 - 12:14 AM
Langing QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jul 2, 2014 - 1... Jul 2, 2014 - 11:51 AM
VavAlephVav Ya i'd say a 'rebuilt head' doesn... Jul 1, 2014 - 5:03 PM
msk59 http://www.shop.headsonly.com/TOYOTA-CELIC...CELIC... Jul 1, 2014 - 10:31 PM
msk59 Langing: i spoke to a guy named David from Cylinde... Jul 2, 2014 - 8:36 AM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jul 2, 2014 - 9:36 AM... Jul 2, 2014 - 10:32 AM
msk59 thanks Langing. I just spoke to a mechanic who is ... Jul 2, 2014 - 10:51 AM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jul 2, 2014 - 11:51 A... Jul 2, 2014 - 1:38 PM
VavAlephVav There you go, the most important thing is to find ... Jul 2, 2014 - 11:06 AM
Langing QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jul 2, 2014 - 12... Jul 2, 2014 - 1:44 PM
VavAlephVav To me that is the most important reason to not buy... Jul 2, 2014 - 1:55 PM
Langing QUOTE (VavAlephVav @ Jul 2, 2014 - 2... Jul 2, 2014 - 2:24 PM
Special_Edy You can remove the exhaust camshaft on the 5s, pos... Jul 2, 2014 - 5:12 PM
msk59 Thanks to all for their input. I think the strong ... Jul 24, 2014 - 11:02 AM
Langing QUOTE (msk59 @ Jul 24, 2014 - 12:02 ... Jul 24, 2014 - 11:40 AM
msk59 I am planning on it. I was going to start last wee... Jul 24, 2014 - 11:55 AM![]() ![]() |
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