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post Aug 16, 2014 - 11:18 PM
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Hey guys, I'm having a bit of an issue
I took out my Control Unit thingy when i had a go at wrapping in carbon fibre


All i basically did is undo the 3 screws on the back, wrap and put back together and now next morning while driving my gauges went out while driving, Stopped and replaced the fuse but it blew instantly, I noticed the power windows don't work either however the fuse is not blown.
I took the control unit thing out and unplugged the power window (along with the lock button) and put a new fuse for the gauges and then didnt blow.


After driving for a while it was fine, but driving on the way back home on the highway the gauge went out again

I am assuming the wiring must have been tugged and something came loose when playing with the control unit... because when i check now the fuse name it says
gauges and metres, power door lock system

so nothing to do with the control unit.. maybe a loose ground?
anyone here got any ideas??
Thanks

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post Aug 20, 2014 - 6:28 AM
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I had the battery jump started and both alternator and battery ran at about 14 volts, but once the fuse blew it dropped to 10v and stayed there,

putting a new fuse in then basically just sucks the power out of the car till it dies or fuse blows again


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post Aug 20, 2014 - 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 20, 2014 - 7:28 AM) *
I had the battery jump started and both alternator and battery ran at about 14 volts, but once the fuse blew it dropped to 10v and stayed there,

putting a new fuse in then basically just sucks the power out of the car till it dies or fuse blows again


This sounds like a bad alternator. changing voltages (going from 14 to 10) would cause the current to change as well (but the current should be lower right..? not go higher and blow a fuse)
If you can get a good 12.5V (ish) on your battery with the car off, get a new alternator or have it tested then get a new alternator if its bad. Most places SHOULD waive the alternator testing fee when purchasing a new alternator... If they don't they are cheap as hell.... And mention it after having it tested. If the alternator is good, pay the fee i suppose but now you have a bigger problem, you've got to go hunting for shorts and all kinds of different possibilities....

Good luck man!

Edit: Going from 14 to 10v sounds like the typical bad alternator not being able to keep up with the normal load (aka bad alternator tongue.gif ) BUT the fuses blowing... sounds like a short, but the problems could be tied together.

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post Aug 21, 2014 - 4:23 AM
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QUOTE (Noahwhite2014 @ Aug 20, 2014 - 11:35 PM) *
QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 20, 2014 - 7:28 AM) *
I had the battery jump started and both alternator and battery ran at about 14 volts, but once the fuse blew it dropped to 10v and stayed there,

putting a new fuse in then basically just sucks the power out of the car till it dies or fuse blows again


This sounds like a bad alternator. changing voltages (going from 14 to 10) would cause the current to change as well (but the current should be lower right..? not go higher and blow a fuse)
If you can get a good 12.5V (ish) on your battery with the car off, get a new alternator or have it tested then get a new alternator if its bad. Most places SHOULD waive the alternator testing fee when purchasing a new alternator... If they don't they are cheap as hell.... And mention it after having it tested. If the alternator is good, pay the fee i suppose but now you have a bigger problem, you've got to go hunting for shorts and all kinds of different possibilities....

Good luck man!

Edit: Going from 14 to 10v sounds like the typical bad alternator not being able to keep up with the normal load (aka bad alternator tongue.gif ) BUT the fuses blowing... sounds like a short, but the problems could be tied together.

Electrical problems are always complicated...
If the alternator has for whatever reason put a 'charge' into the system, it could blow a fuse... A dying battery also causes voltage (and thus amperage) fluctuations which can lead to a blown fuse...
The person that RoadRage had work on his car (Not his choice, so not his fault) did a very bad test (wrapping a fuse in metal wire), which caused the fuse to actually explode, and this seems to have caused more damage (His headlights now do not work).


The car is at an Auto-Electrician right now, so all hoping it isn't too bad a of a problem...



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post Aug 21, 2014 - 8:58 AM
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Why would the person wrap a fuse with electrical wire when fuses are blowing?! Well I hope all is well and it's something that's fixable for a reasonable price. Let me know how this turns out, good luck!

Posts in this topic
- RoadRage   Gauges fuse keeps blowing   Aug 16, 2014 - 11:18 PM
- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 16, 2014 - 11...   Aug 17, 2014 - 6:41 AM
- - VavAlephVav   this is the link for the 1995 wiring diagram http...   Aug 17, 2014 - 9:30 AM
- - RoadRage   Thanks for the replies! and the wiring diagra...   Aug 17, 2014 - 7:56 PM
- - RoadRage   Ok... strange I took the door car off and checked...   Aug 18, 2014 - 1:54 AM
- - Smaay   sounds like a screw is shorting out a wire   Aug 18, 2014 - 10:53 AM
- - RoadRage   Ok this is turning into a bigger problem... I got...   Aug 19, 2014 - 3:06 AM
|- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 19, 2014 - 3:0...   Aug 19, 2014 - 3:44 AM
|- - rentaspace   I have been trying to help diagnose roadrage since...   Aug 19, 2014 - 9:25 PM
|- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (rentaspace @ Aug 19, 2014 - 9...   Aug 20, 2014 - 1:50 AM
|- - rentaspace   QUOTE (Noahwhite2014 @ Aug 20, 2014 - 2...   Aug 20, 2014 - 3:31 AM
|- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (rentaspace @ Aug 20, 2014 - 4...   Aug 20, 2014 - 6:04 AM
- - RoadRage   In other words, its ****ed lol Needs to be taken ...   Aug 20, 2014 - 1:37 AM
- - RoadRage   I had the battery jump started and both alternator...   Aug 20, 2014 - 6:28 AM
|- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 20, 2014 - 7:2...   Aug 20, 2014 - 10:35 PM
|- - rentaspace   QUOTE (Noahwhite2014 @ Aug 20, 2014 - 11...   Aug 21, 2014 - 4:23 AM
|- - Noahwhite2014   Why would the person wrap a fuse with electrical w...   Aug 21, 2014 - 8:58 AM
- - VavAlephVav   Which fuses are blowing?   Aug 21, 2014 - 12:16 PM
- - VavAlephVav   Also, the purpose of a fuse is to protect more exp...   Aug 21, 2014 - 3:45 PM
- - RoadRage   OK, here is the story, the gauges fuse kept blowin...   Aug 22, 2014 - 1:51 AM
- - Noahwhite2014   QUOTE (RoadRage @ Aug 22, 2014 - 1:5...   Aug 22, 2014 - 5:33 AM


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