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post Jan 3, 2016 - 1:45 PM
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So, I bought my first Rav4 about a month or 2 ago. I've been in the celica world for a long time and I wanted a winter beater. As it turns out, the 3s decided that it was going to start Rod knocking like a beast. Needless to say, car needed work.

I had an old 5s just sitting on a pallet in the garage collecting dust. it came from a 94 celica, and it ran when it was pulled.

Now that I've got everything out of the Rav, and from what i'm told, the 5s block will need ground on the back to make space for the transfer case, but otherwise it should be pretty straight forward I think.

I haven't had time to research everything... but to be honest there isn't much out there on this particular swap because there aren't that many gains to be had. For me the gains are purely $$$.

if you guys see anything glaring, PM me and let me know if you would....

The Plan
1) swap wiring harness from 3sfe to 5sfe
2) "depending on how the ecu works out", swap over exhaust manifold because of OBD1/OBD2 differences in the model years
3) hook tranny and T-case to 5sfe ( grind block as needed, additionally brace as needed for missing mounting points)
4) repair subframe rust, mount engine and tranny to subframe - reinstall in car
5)hook everything back up including 3sfe ecu to run engine. ** Pray ecu can deal with extra stroke/air and change fuel delivery to accomodate**
6) ** pray that i don't need to swap injectors to do this to get engine to running** - Does anyone know if there is much in the way of difference between the injectors? basically I'm looking to run the 5sfe like a stroked 3sfe. Should work I'd think.


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post Jan 14, 2016 - 5:50 PM
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Haha thanks Mike. I'll be looking into this directly.
What's the trigger for the sensor? Any idea?


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post Jan 14, 2016 - 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jan 14, 2016 - 5:50 PM) *
Haha thanks Mike. I'll be looking into this directly.
What's the trigger for the sensor? Any idea?


That I couldn't tell you, you'll just have to compare the gear or crank on either engine. Hopefully it's the gear, cause I know the gear slides all the way on there and the crank doesn't show.

Posts in this topic
- ricochet1490   Rav4 3sfe to 5sfe engine swap   Jan 3, 2016 - 1:45 PM
- - Bitter   just run the 5S with it's injectors on the 3S ...   Jan 3, 2016 - 5:14 PM
- - Batman722   The 94 5s doesn't have cam and crank sensor th...   Jan 3, 2016 - 6:25 PM
- - Bitter   I didn't catch that. Good point! He might ...   Jan 3, 2016 - 8:34 PM
- - ricochet1490   @batman - I appear to have located at least the ...   Jan 3, 2016 - 10:22 PM
- - ricochet1490   http://www.rav4world.com/forums/85-4-1-fau...s-98-...   Jan 12, 2016 - 8:29 PM
- - mkernz22   Is the crank sensor on the block or the oil pump a...   Jan 13, 2016 - 9:17 PM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Jan 13, 2016 - 9:1...   Jan 13, 2016 - 11:12 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jan 13, 2016 - 11...   Jan 14, 2016 - 4:55 PM
- - ricochet1490   Haha thanks Mike. I'll be looking into this di...   Jan 14, 2016 - 5:50 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jan 14, 2016 - 5...   Jan 14, 2016 - 11:26 PM
- - mkernz22   Any update?   Jan 27, 2016 - 8:37 AM
- - block   This better be worth it lol   Jan 28, 2016 - 6:26 PM
- - ricochet1490   I was in Europe last week. So no update. I'll...   Jan 28, 2016 - 9:24 PM
- - ricochet1490   So I've got everything sorted I think. As you...   Mar 6, 2016 - 10:27 AM
- - Bitter   SAFC can fix that?   Mar 6, 2016 - 5:10 PM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (Bitter @ Mar 6, 2016 - 5:10 P...   Mar 7, 2016 - 1:19 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Mar 7, 2016 - 1...   Mar 7, 2016 - 11:28 PM
- - Bitter   I still think the 3S maps with 5S injectors will w...   Mar 7, 2016 - 11:36 PM
- - ricochet1490   Successful weekend. Engine bolted onto the transmi...   Mar 21, 2016 - 11:10 AM
- - ricochet1490   Ok, So I need some help. So it's not driving ...   Jul 17, 2016 - 6:03 PM
- - Bitter   30 or so cc won't make it not run, they're...   Jul 17, 2016 - 6:56 PM
- - ricochet1490   You thinking too much or too little?   Jul 18, 2016 - 8:08 AM
- - Bitter   Could be either, should be around 40-50 PSI to hav...   Jul 18, 2016 - 6:40 PM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (Bitter @ Jul 18, 2016 - 7:40 ...   Jul 18, 2016 - 6:45 PM
- - njccmd2002   why not get aftermarket fuel regulator. there are...   Jul 19, 2016 - 3:26 AM
- - JasonTX   i'm a little confused on the ac and injector i...   Jul 24, 2016 - 11:29 AM
- - ricochet1490   Update. Fuel pressure and spark timing check out....   Jul 24, 2016 - 12:38 PM
- - Bitter   Check compression I guess. And check spark AT the ...   Jul 24, 2016 - 1:00 PM
- - ricochet1490   OK, so it now kind of runs, but still dies. I put ...   Aug 17, 2016 - 7:51 PM
- - njccmd2002   crank sensor light? i would check into that. make...   Aug 17, 2016 - 8:12 PM
- - ricochet1490   So I think it has something to do with injector wi...   Aug 19, 2016 - 6:52 PM
- - Bitter   Both look like batch fire in pairs?   Aug 20, 2016 - 9:26 AM
- - ricochet1490   well, you just gave me something to look up. the ...   Aug 20, 2016 - 10:55 AM
- - ricochet1490   The more I've researched today it shouldn...   Aug 20, 2016 - 1:36 PM
- - Bitter   when you get it running try to spray some carb spr...   Aug 21, 2016 - 9:06 PM
- - Pez   I was just a passer by, reading your thread. I wor...   Aug 23, 2016 - 11:14 AM
- - njccmd2002   ^^ posted the crank sensor idea 5 posts ago, he d...   Aug 23, 2016 - 4:00 PM
- - ricochet1490   Well, it runs and drives! As it turns out, it...   Oct 2, 2016 - 7:12 PM
- - Bitter   Haha wow, I thought I said timing a while back?   Oct 2, 2016 - 7:33 PM


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