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post Mar 29, 2012 - 12:55 AM
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Ok so i just performed an oil change on my 7afe. The first couple of weeks the car was fine but now when the engine is at normal operating temperature the rpm idle drops to about 600-700 rpm and the car feels like its about to die. Anybody know why it does this? nothing is wrong with any vacuum lines, everything has been kept up to date.
 
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post Oct 9, 2016 - 1:14 PM
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Jump E1 and TE1 in the diag box and then start the engine, the engine should be warmed to operating temp before starting and all accessories should be off. This places the engine into base timing mode with no advance or retard, do not drive the vehicle in this mode. To check timing allow idle to stabilize and then check timing off plug wire #1, snap the throttle a couple times while checking timing to ensure it always settles back down to the correct position. It should be 10 degrees BTDC, only non OBD2 are adjustable, later models are fixed timing even if the distributor is rotatable as the ECU uses crankshaft and camshaft position to set ignition and fuel injection timing. Timing set too advanced will cause a high idle and possibly preignition or ping under load without the use of higher octane fuel, ignition timing set too low will cause sluggish acceleration and high emissions as well as a low idle. The 7A with adjustable timing runs very well with 15 degrees timing and 89 octane or better fuel, pairs well with bolt ons such as an air intake and ebay header+exhaust.


But if you're idling at specification and it still feels rough either you have one or more cylinders not running correctly or worn mounts or both issues going on. The passenger side mount is responsible for most of the idle quality issues reported. Assuming your engine is running perfectly with good compression across the board and all cylinders contributing 100% the mount is the cause of a rough feeling idle, it's not that the engine is running roughly it's that you're feeling it in the cabin due to a worn mount transmitting too much vibration. If it feels 'boomy' in the cabin at idle it's the mount worn out.


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- SAE-HI   7afe low idle   Mar 29, 2012 - 12:55 AM
- - CAcelica29   mine does something similar, stop lights and traff...   Mar 29, 2012 - 1:33 AM
- - Tigawoods   not sure if the 7A has a throttle adjustment screw...   Mar 29, 2012 - 11:17 AM
- - SAE-HI   what i did was add about half a quart of oil to it...   Mar 29, 2012 - 11:59 AM
|- - CAcelica29   mine definitly isnt low on oil.....dirty IACV mayb...   Mar 29, 2012 - 12:13 PM
- - d3ath2009   my 7a has always idled low like that once its warm...   Mar 29, 2012 - 12:38 PM
|- - HectortheRican   QUOTE (d3ath2009 @ Mar 29, 2012 - 11...   Mar 29, 2012 - 12:49 PM
- - mandrek   QUOTE (SAE-HI @ Mar 29, 2012 - 1...   Mar 29, 2012 - 12:54 PM
- - SAE-HI   theres nothing wrong with the timing. before it wo...   Mar 29, 2012 - 1:07 PM
- - mandrek   hmm, and you checked the base timing with a jumpe...   Mar 29, 2012 - 5:10 PM
- - SAE-HI   nope , yeah same oil except i put alittle less of ...   Mar 29, 2012 - 10:17 PM
- - Driftingmy85   Was there any solution to this issue. I'm havi...   Oct 7, 2016 - 11:50 AM
- - Bitter   Idle speed is supposed to be 750 +/- 50 RPM, so 70...   Oct 8, 2016 - 4:23 PM
- - msk59   How do you check the timing on 7AFE engine. My car...   Oct 9, 2016 - 11:57 AM
- - Bitter   Jump E1 and TE1 in the diag box and then start the...   Oct 9, 2016 - 1:14 PM
- - msk59   Thanks Bitter. My car is 1996 ST so OBDII.   Oct 9, 2016 - 8:11 PM
- - Bitter   You can check timing but you can't adjust it, ...   Oct 9, 2016 - 8:52 PM
- - msk59   Thank You Bitter. Appreciate your input and help.   Oct 11, 2016 - 7:43 AM


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