Oct 17, 2016 - 9:15 PM
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Just put some money down on a red 1997 Celica... I'll be bringing it home on a trailer this weekend, don't even have it yet. But I'll be updating this thread with little things that I do to it. For now, here are the pictures ripped directly from the Craigslist ad:
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Oct 3, 2017 - 3:46 AM
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Just gonna dump some information about my sunroof here. I opened it up and looked around the guts to figure out why it doesn't work, and in the process, I learned a lot about the history of the car. I'm including some pretty detailed stuff because the sunroof manufacturer, Farmont, was bought out around the year 2000, and now there is almost no information to be found on this product anywhere on the internet. There are certainly no spec sheets, maintenance guides, replacement parts, or anything like that available.
I believe this unit was "professionally" installed by a Toyota distributor, as opposed to a previous owner. As I understand it, Toyota is the only major manufacturer that has been using a distributor network to act as a middleman between Toyota corporate and American dealerships. This system started in the 1960's when Toyota needed help breaking into the North American market. Since then, Toyota has been steadily buying out its distributors as they have been becoming obsolete, but 2 of them apparently grew too big to mess with. They are Gulf States Toyota and I believe Southeast Toyota Distributors. Apparently they liked to buy poorly-optioned cars from Toyota, add options themselves using non-OEM products (thus "adding value"), and in turn sell those cars to dealerships. If you've been around a while, you may have heard of Toyota's end customers getting screwed in the options department because of these distributors. I have a feeling this is what happened to my car with the fog lights and this sunroof. I put "professionally" in quotes earlier because these things were not installed well at all. I'm actually surprised the sunroof doesn't leak, as everything about this thing looks like it was done by Michael J. Fox on speed. But yeah, I just wanted to type all this info because I found it really interesting, and there may be other Celica owners out there seeking information on their strange aftermarket parts. Some of it might be wrong but the general idea is there. - Anyway, on to the sunroof. It is a Farmont F1000. This is what the control panel looks like. Literally just forward and backward directions. The sunroof is a "spoiler" type, meaning the back pops up while the whole glass panel slides backward and above the car's roof in one motion. This is different from the factory sunroofs which can either pop up in the back or slide into the roof--not both simultaneously. You can tell my sunroof is aftermarket because the controls are not integrated into the dome light area by the rear view mirror, as is the case in factory systems. There are a lot of other details that give it away too, like the curvature of the glass and the mismatched trim color. ![]() This is the rear area of the sunroof. Those two black tabs pointing down are attached to spring-loaded rolled up black fabric shades. They can be pulled forward and literally hooked onto the front trim of the sunroof to block the sunlight. I always thought this was kind of cool and unique, but it isn't the most effective. When both shades are extended, they don't cover the whole area of the glass panel. Also, the driver's side shade is starting to fall apart. The little aluminum bar is coming through the fabric, which can be seen in the picture. ![]() Here's the exposed motor. It works fine, but doesn't catch on anything. I originally thought the reason would be a stripped gear, but I was only half right. ![]() The problem was right above the motor. A drive gear was missing altogether: ![]() Here is what this part is supposed to look like. I found this image on some old internet forum where a guy had a similar issue with the same sunroof: ![]() The gear is supposed to go right in between these two threaded cables: ![]() A previous owner must have lost it when he attempted a repair or something. Not a whole lot I can do about a missing gear in an extinct sunroof. So right now I'm looking into having the whole thing removed. I want a complete sunroof delete to save that weight at the very top of my car. I doubt I would be able to find a nice factory sunroof and be able to install it for cheap, taking into consideration the two sunroofs are almost certainly different sizes. Plus, this will be a good opportunity for me to try my hand at making a new headliner in a nice black suede material. So that's it for now. I realize nobody really cares about this info, but I didn't want it to go to waste after I spent so much time combing the internet for it. Plus someone might find this post in a search if they are having similar issues. This post has been edited by Bushmatic: May 7, 2018 - 10:35 AM -------------------- |
Bushmatic 1997 ST - The Bushmobile Oct 17, 2016 - 9:15 PM
njccmd2002 Clean celica Oct 18, 2016 - 6:22 AM
cheela welcome! yeah that looks like a really clean c... Oct 18, 2016 - 9:26 AM
Bushmatic Spent a few hours looking at engine swap write-ups... Oct 18, 2016 - 11:40 AM
Box Welcome! Every time I see a Renaissance Red C... Oct 18, 2016 - 12:28 PM
ClevelandGaint Welcome, once you get one your bound to get others Oct 18, 2016 - 2:17 PM
Bushmatic I just tried to post 3 times but the posts are not... Oct 18, 2016 - 2:31 PM
cheela QUOTE (Bushmatic @ Oct 18, 2016 - 2... Oct 18, 2016 - 3:08 PM
cheela as for your other questions:
tachometer: http://w... Oct 18, 2016 - 3:20 PM
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Box Here's a writeup on drums to discs: http://www... Oct 18, 2016 - 3:38 PM
bryanf Here is my writeup on the brake conversion:
http:... Oct 18, 2016 - 4:10 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (Box @ Oct 18, 2016 - 4:38 PM)... Oct 18, 2016 - 6:10 PM
Smaay Sounds like you should have not bought this car. I... Oct 18, 2016 - 6:53 PM
ClevelandGaint You can go on eBay and purchase a 7th gen celica s... Oct 18, 2016 - 6:54 PM
Box QUOTE (ClevelandGaint @ Oct 18, 2016 - 6... Oct 18, 2016 - 7:39 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 18, 2016 - 6:53 P... Oct 18, 2016 - 8:47 PM
Csober Nice to see pictures of it, and was good to meet y... Oct 19, 2016 - 8:02 AM
Bushmatic Got her home today, it was a nice drive! It... Oct 21, 2016 - 5:09 PM
Box You could try using some Liquid Wrench or PB Blast... Oct 21, 2016 - 11:13 PM
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BonzaiCelica My left front speaker blew out and quite honestly ... Oct 23, 2016 - 12:05 PM
Box You can test the speaker wiring with a voltmeter o... Oct 23, 2016 - 12:43 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (Box @ Oct 23, 2016 - 1:43 PM)... Oct 23, 2016 - 9:40 PM
Bushmatic Still waiting on a lot of items to ship to continu... Oct 31, 2016 - 2:16 PM
Box Or it could be the fader setting. That's abo... Oct 31, 2016 - 3:48 PM
Bushmatic I got my head unit and wiring harness, so I starte... Nov 1, 2016 - 7:08 PM
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richee3 Both are standard with every head unit I've ev... Nov 7, 2016 - 8:59 AM
Bushmatic QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 7, 2016 - 8:59 ... Nov 7, 2016 - 1:38 PM
Bushmatic Two small questions to anyone reading...
I'm ... Nov 13, 2016 - 7:59 PM
richee3 I have a spare tach if you need it, but I've g... Nov 13, 2016 - 8:48 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 13, 2016 - 8:48... Nov 13, 2016 - 9:11 PM
Box The switch plunger for the glove box light is prob... Nov 13, 2016 - 10:15 PM
BonzaiCelica http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#en... Nov 14, 2016 - 2:28 PM
Bushmatic Trying to figure out the best way to repair/restor... Nov 17, 2016 - 9:56 PM
CelicaDICE I have a set of genuine GT4/SS-III raiser blocks. ... Nov 18, 2016 - 12:18 PM
Box ST and GT have the same lift door, what you're... Nov 18, 2016 - 12:59 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (CelicaDICE @ Nov 18, 2016 - 12... Nov 18, 2016 - 4:10 PM
cheela I would just drill the extra hole for the spoiler.... Nov 18, 2016 - 5:48 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (cheela @ Nov 18, 2016 - 5:48 ... Nov 18, 2016 - 8:57 PM
Bushmatic Small update, Legacy wheels don’t fit in the front... Nov 29, 2016 - 1:38 PM
Bitter If you only barely need to clear then 5mm spacers ... Nov 30, 2016 - 12:06 AM
cheela Fyi. njccmd2002 is giving away a 2 post spoiler fo... Dec 6, 2016 - 4:41 PM
Csober If you're still looking for a 2 post hatch the... Dec 18, 2016 - 9:34 PM
msk59 Nice updates. Like the details you write. Who make... Jan 26, 2017 - 12:49 PM
Bushmatic Hey, I'm back, after packing up everything, sh... Apr 28, 2017 - 2:31 AM
Box Well the right way to take care of the spoiler hol... May 3, 2017 - 5:58 PM
Bushmatic Might as well post a quick update... Nothing parti... Aug 21, 2017 - 11:05 PM
Bushmatic Just pulled the trigger on a master cylinder, valv... Aug 22, 2017 - 12:41 PM
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BonzaiCelica you didnt use any primer did you for the plastic??... Sep 1, 2017 - 5:46 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 1, 2017 - 3... Sep 4, 2017 - 12:56 AM
tr1stan Nice. I always like the sound of magnaflow. It is ... Sep 5, 2017 - 3:20 AM
Bushmatic RE: 1997 ST - The Bushmobile Sep 5, 2017 - 1:31 PM
cheela nice! those are in great condition. I've w... Sep 5, 2017 - 2:05 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (cheela @ Sep 5, 2017 - 12:05 ... Sep 5, 2017 - 3:45 PM
cheela owner in Japan was probably picking up chicks in h... Sep 5, 2017 - 5:00 PM
Box QUOTE (cheela @ Sep 5, 2017 - 5:00 P... Sep 5, 2017 - 5:58 PM
njccmd2002 them toes Sep 5, 2017 - 11:23 PM
Bushmatic I want to get a pair of tiny carriage/mushroom hea... Sep 11, 2017 - 6:45 PM
cheela damn. that sucks about the sunroof.. you could try... Oct 3, 2017 - 9:25 AM
njccmd2002 im pretty sure you can find that part if you look ... Oct 3, 2017 - 10:04 AM
Bushmatic QUOTE (cheela @ Oct 3, 2017 - 7:25 A... Oct 3, 2017 - 2:14 PM
njccmd2002 if the sunroof is oem and not aftermarket, chances... Oct 4, 2017 - 10:43 AM
Box QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 4, 2017 - 10... Oct 4, 2017 - 11:12 AM
Bushmatic It's a moot point by now because I've deci... Oct 4, 2017 - 8:27 PM
Box For me it's O.E. or not at all when it comes t... Oct 4, 2017 - 8:53 PM
njccmd2002 ill know and ill point it out Oct 4, 2017 - 9:18 PM
Box Not after it's done and he uses that memory wi... Oct 4, 2017 - 10:22 PM
Bushmatic valve cover gasket job with something extra
(New... Oct 18, 2017 - 8:17 PM
Smaay that thing needs a V6 in there Oct 18, 2017 - 8:33 PM
Box Looks a lot better! Oct 18, 2017 - 8:40 PM
Bushmatic Half a year later update! Still alive and dri... Jun 28, 2018 - 1:55 PM
TimeslideZ Yoooooo glad it's still running and being work... Jul 2, 2018 - 10:13 PM
cheela bump!
what happened to the reveal?? Jul 25, 2018 - 4:28 PM
Box Should be able to bake open the tail lights and th... Jul 26, 2018 - 4:46 AM
Bushmatic Sorry about the short delay, I moved back to Michi... Jul 30, 2018 - 12:05 AM
Box Louvers are supposed to go on the outside. Jul 30, 2018 - 3:37 AM
CoolZeen louvers ? it will be cool if they made some for ou... Jul 31, 2018 - 1:13 PM
cheela Blinds are interesting. You should get a TRD roof ... Jul 31, 2018 - 1:22 PM
NgoFcukinWay You probably would've been better off installi... Aug 1, 2018 - 8:30 AM
Bushmatic QUOTE (Box @ Jul 30, 2018 - 4:37 AM)... Aug 1, 2018 - 11:37 AM
Box Hey, I was being funny not mean. Aug 1, 2018 - 11:36 PM
Bushmatic QUOTE (Box @ Aug 2, 2018 - 12:36 AM)... Aug 3, 2018 - 1:35 AM
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Bushmatic Engine finally blown! Car is for sale, as is, ... Feb 5, 2021 - 8:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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