Mar 6, 2018 - 10:07 AM
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new GR Zupra...... (redacted) its a BMW
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Feb 5, 2019 - 8:15 AM
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If I heard correctly in that video, the engines will be the same. Toyota just subjected the new designed BMW engine to the rigors of the Toyota durability validation process.
So it should be at least as reliable as a toyota engineered engine. This post has been edited by bloodMoney: Feb 5, 2019 - 8:16 AM -------------------- ~bloodMoney
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Feb 24, 2019 - 6:27 PM
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If I heard correctly in that video, the engines will be the same. Toyota just subjected the new designed BMW engine to the rigors of the Toyota durability validation process. So it should be at least as reliable as a toyota engineered engine. That's what I got out of it as well. It's a BMW engine, re-engineered by Toyota to be up to their standards. My question is, is BMW using the Toyota-engineered engine in their other cars or will it strictly be the Z4 that gets the Toyota variant? Or will BMW be using that variant at all? It looks like there's still a lot of plastic bits all around the engine which kind of sucks, since we all know the plastic parts of the BMW cooling systems suck. It seems odd that Toyota would test every bolt and rivet in the B58 and revise as necessary then still leave the plastic in the cooling system. Another concern- Toyota did their own suspension tuning and designed their own interior, yet they raided the BMW parts bin for everything. Was any of that revised to meet Toyota's standards? I have a feeling only the engine was re-engineered but I'm left questioning to what extent. Toyota also did their own engine tuning. So does that mean that we will be getting a Toyota ECU that can't be reflashed like BMW ECU's or will it have a BMW ECU that Toyota tuned? In other words, will it be easy to get an ECU reflash for more power or will we be stuck going with standalones? These are all things that I think about while not being able to afford one at all. I might be interested in picking one up several years from now after it's known how they handle and how reliable they are but in the meantime I'll stick to classic Toyotas that cost me a fortune. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
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njccmd2002 new Zupra!!! Mar 6, 2018 - 10:07 AM
richee3 Looks about how we all expected. Can’t say I’m sur... Mar 6, 2018 - 10:18 AM
bloodMoney I want to know WTF the car is really going to look... Mar 6, 2018 - 12:03 PM
richee3 I think the current renderings are pretty close, b... Mar 6, 2018 - 5:13 PM
njccmd2002 man, even the forums are ready!!!
we ... Mar 6, 2018 - 5:41 PM
navseal345 I like the Viper roof! Mar 6, 2018 - 5:54 PM
Box I like the looks, only question is if it'll ha... Mar 6, 2018 - 7:23 PM
cheela QUOTE (Box @ Mar 6, 2018 - 6:23 PM) ... Mar 7, 2018 - 10:14 AM
Box QUOTE (cheela @ Mar 7, 2018 - 9:14 A... Mar 7, 2018 - 9:30 PM
Bitter Yay BMW reliability... Mar 6, 2018 - 9:08 PM
narly_charley QUOTE (Bitter @ Mar 6, 2018 - 9:08 P... Mar 7, 2018 - 2:42 PM
TimeslideZ QUOTE (Bitter @ Mar 6, 2018 - 9:08 P... Mar 7, 2018 - 2:57 AM
richee3 One article I read quoted Tetsuya Tada as saying t... Mar 7, 2018 - 3:51 PM
NgoFcukinWay BMW Supra. meh. pass. Mar 7, 2018 - 9:05 PM
block Wish this was strictly a Toyota project. I hate t... Mar 7, 2018 - 9:25 PM
Bitter It's official, Box likes stick. That explains ... Mar 7, 2018 - 9:31 PM
Box Fairly sure it was official a long time ago I only... Mar 7, 2018 - 9:57 PM
bloodMoney QUOTE (Box @ Mar 7, 2018 - 9:57 PM) ... Mar 9, 2018 - 8:17 AM
Box I know, but any kind of retort acknowledging it ju... Mar 9, 2018 - 3:28 PM
Bitter Why not both? Mar 9, 2018 - 8:37 PM
Box Because automatics take out any fun in driving for... Mar 9, 2018 - 9:40 PM
richee3 As we draw nearer to the official reveal, we keep ... Sep 19, 2018 - 2:34 PM
narly_charley I'm still upset that they teamed up with BMW. ... Sep 19, 2018 - 3:04 PM
NgoFcukinWay MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee... Sep 19, 2018 - 3:28 PM
cheela At least it's return to performance and fun wi... Sep 19, 2018 - 3:42 PM
NgoFcukinWay Supra Utility Vehicle. Sep 20, 2018 - 7:59 AM
richee3 QUOTE (richee3 @ Sep 19, 2018 - 1:34... Sep 20, 2018 - 2:16 PM
NgoFcukinWay Well, what I wanna know is are they going to be pu... Sep 20, 2018 - 3:06 PM
richee3 Those drawn out posts I’ve made and I still haven’... Sep 20, 2018 - 9:55 PM
navseal345 Chee we could do halfies? Sep 20, 2018 - 9:56 PM
cheela QUOTE (navseal345 @ Sep 20, 2018 - 9... Sep 21, 2018 - 9:23 AM
navseal345 QUOTE (cheela @ Sep 21, 2018 - 9:23 ... Sep 21, 2018 - 9:28 AM
njccmd2002 QUOTE (cheela @ Sep 21, 2018 - 9:23 ... Sep 21, 2018 - 11:01 AM
Box I still don't understand the lack of a manual ... Sep 21, 2018 - 7:31 AM
NgoFcukinWay ...would be cool if they threw a dogbox/PPG transm... Sep 21, 2018 - 8:54 AM
cheela Fair enough. I'll keep it and drive it occasio... Sep 21, 2018 - 9:44 AM
njccmd2002 on point with the supra, i dont like it. it has a... Sep 21, 2018 - 11:04 AM
narly_charley $60K! Holy balls... You could build SOOOO... Sep 21, 2018 - 1:44 PM
Bitter With BMW power train it won't be about who get... Sep 21, 2018 - 8:10 PM
Box 60K even gets you a decent enough turbo MKIV, whic... Sep 22, 2018 - 12:45 AM
richee3 I guess I’m technically the first person here on t... Oct 30, 2018 - 10:05 PM
Bitter Dimensions not cartoonish, model 100% accurate to ... Oct 30, 2018 - 10:30 PM
Box Pssh, bought one on Gran Turismo Sport ages ago. Oct 30, 2018 - 11:17 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 30, 2018 - 9:30 ... Oct 30, 2018 - 11:43 PM
cheela https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25868740...XEnt... Jan 14, 2019 - 3:59 PM
navseal345 Oh good god. Even the shifter & interior look ... Jan 14, 2019 - 9:01 PM
cheela QUOTE (navseal345 @ Jan 14, 2019 - 8... Jan 15, 2019 - 8:47 AM
bloodMoney Hard pass.
I'd rather import a MKIV and spen... Jan 15, 2019 - 9:30 AM
cheela QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jan 15, 2019 - 8... Jan 15, 2019 - 10:41 AM
richee3 QUOTE (cheela @ Jan 15, 2019 - 10:41... Jan 15, 2019 - 11:50 AM
navseal345 There will be a mid-cycle refresh. That'll may... Jan 15, 2019 - 1:38 PM
NgoFcukinWay I like the gauge cluster and that's about it. ... Jan 15, 2019 - 2:06 PM
njccmd2002 Why would i ever want a BMW, It looks like a cross... Jan 15, 2019 - 11:29 PM
BonzaiCelica whats curb weight? Jan 16, 2019 - 1:50 PM
bloodMoney about 3400lbs IIRC Jan 16, 2019 - 3:16 PM
Bitter QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jan 16, 2019 - 2... Jan 21, 2019 - 2:22 PM
njccmd2002 https://jalopnik.com/the-first-mkv-toyota-s...lion... Jan 21, 2019 - 9:58 AM
cheela QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 21, 2019 - 8... Jan 21, 2019 - 4:21 PM
Bitter QUOTE (cheela @ Jan 21, 2019 - 3:21 ... Jan 21, 2019 - 11:48 PM
NgoFcukinWay 2 charities got a million each, so the dude basica... Jan 21, 2019 - 7:22 PM
cheela ^lol, that's a marketing gimmick. that car... Jan 22, 2019 - 11:16 AM
njccmd2002 i sense a lot of jealousy here. Jan 22, 2019 - 11:35 PM
BonzaiCelica the M2 competition with 405 hp in a 6spd or maybe ... Jan 22, 2019 - 11:46 PM
navseal345 Engineering Explained YouTube video covering the e... Jan 23, 2019 - 11:27 PM
bloodMoney For whatever reason, I can't stand that guy...... Jan 24, 2019 - 10:56 AM
Bitter He talks like Chuckee2009 or whatever, also super ... Jan 24, 2019 - 11:29 PM
bloodMoney You know, I can actually stomach Chuckee2009 for h... Jan 25, 2019 - 11:06 AM
njccmd2002 And the jealousy goes on Jan 26, 2019 - 10:05 PM
narly_charley Rev up your BMW Toyota!!!! Jordan ... Jan 28, 2019 - 11:03 AM
njccmd2002 BEEmeryota..... bada booom Jan 28, 2019 - 11:57 AM
richee3 Interesting.
https://youtu.be/_jbyzmtgU_0 Feb 4, 2019 - 1:53 AM
njccmd2002 all the video confirmed what i knew, its a rebadge... Feb 4, 2019 - 3:25 AM
richee3 Did we watch the same video? Nothing in the video... Feb 4, 2019 - 1:38 PM
navseal345 Burros & chariots are fairly reliable. Feb 4, 2019 - 8:42 PM
navseal345 Finding out the differences of the engine will be ... Feb 4, 2019 - 8:45 PM
NgoFcukinWay Toyota also closed the block for strength.
From a... Mar 4, 2019 - 10:31 PM
njccmd2002 meh....
Ill drive this in the mean time... Mar 8, 2019 - 10:39 AM
bloodMoney Nice! RHD MKIII
I like it! Mar 8, 2019 - 10:53 AM
njccmd2002 it came with surprise gremlins, it was auctioned a... Mar 8, 2019 - 1:48 PM
bloodMoney What kind of gremlins? Nothing too serious, I hope... Mar 8, 2019 - 3:42 PM
cheela really makes me wonder about these "inspectio... Mar 8, 2019 - 3:45 PM
njccmd2002 No headlights, no heater, no wiper, no spare tire,... Mar 8, 2019 - 9:39 PM
Bitter New Supra ain't even out yet and they already ... Mar 12, 2019 - 8:44 PM
richee3 Has anyone else been watching the news for these c... May 16, 2019 - 7:16 PM
Bitter And when adjusted for inflation, roughly $20,... May 16, 2019 - 8:43 PM
richee3 And when comparing current prices, it's the sa... May 16, 2019 - 9:32 PM
Box If only they had a manual as an option, outside of... May 17, 2019 - 2:40 AM
narly_charley I appreciate the specs, but it's just a BMW...... May 17, 2019 - 7:30 AM
Box See but they already have platforms in house to ma... May 17, 2019 - 2:32 PM
BonzaiCelica so the rebadged z4 has 335 hp and the actual z4 ha... May 22, 2019 - 5:18 PM
Box Yes, Toyota de-tuned the B58 to meet their standar... May 22, 2019 - 6:07 PM
Bitter Speculation is that Toyota may have sent out a ... May 22, 2019 - 7:19 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Bitter @ May 22, 2019 - 6:19 ... May 22, 2019 - 9:15 PM
Bitter QUOTE (richee3 @ May 22, 2019 - 9:15... May 22, 2019 - 11:07 PM
Box Probably because Mazda started restoring NA Miatas... May 22, 2019 - 9:50 PM
bloodMoney QUOTE (Box @ May 22, 2019 - 9:50 PM)... May 23, 2019 - 8:19 AM
Box QUOTE (bloodMoney @ May 23, 2019 - 8... May 23, 2019 - 3:37 PM
njccmd2002 But who is going to pay dealer prices for some of ... May 23, 2019 - 1:51 PM![]() ![]() |
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