Mar 31, 2004 - 12:33 PM
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I am curious about this swap how much would it cost??? I have not been able to find a 4A engine where could I get one??? What types mods would have to be done in the engine bay??? Do you guys have any info on this swap???
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Mar 31, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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here... this talks about the entire swap (from a 4a-fe to a 16V smallport 4a-ge.... will talk about similar issues as a 20V, but doesn't go over much wiring seeing how i used stock wiring & ecu)....
my complete swap cost me $1600 including: 4AGE motor, new flywheel, MSD 6al, MSD blaster 2 coil, MSD 8910 EIS tach adapter, KBD header, corolla GTS radiator (new), SARD adjustable fuel pressure regulator & gauge, new cap, rotor, spark plugs, oil, oil filter, belts, new KBD header, thermostat, radiator hoses, GTS gauges (from junkyard), & a couple sensors i had to buy, high flow cat, cat-back exhaust piping and exhaust done at a shop..... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/219038/9 even though the blacktop is map based and would be easier to work with boost.... the blacktop has lighter internals and it can't handle nearly as much as a silvertop can (which i've heard is lower than the 16V's can withstand... especially the gze which have partially forged internals)... you could also find a map based 4a-gze ae92 if you look close enough... which is pretty much optimum.... there's another silvertop car (an mr2) around here, which dyno'd at 120hp at the wheels... i put down 109hp at the wheels..... (just in comparison) between mine and coomers, i spent about $1400 less, have 4 less valves, ~200 rpm less, non vvt motor, but have a stronger head and easier to fix & upgrade (in the US) motor.... once you have the motor in, you can do what you want... your stock tranny (assuming your celica is an ST) will bolt up to any A series motor (probably even a 3a-c).... you won't need any custom mounts (although, if you go to a G head you need to bolt your 7a-fe motor mount bracket on the 4a-ge block instead of use the 4a-ge one... the upper part of the mount is slightly different and has timing cover clearing issues)... but as far as accessories read what i talk about in my above link.... i go into depth |
celimanST 4a swap??? Mar 31, 2004 - 12:33 PM
FAQdaWorld I'd ask coomer or John (Mynezyes or however u ... Mar 31, 2004 - 1:12 PM
toyotaspeed_90 depends on which "4a" you want.... be it... Mar 31, 2004 - 6:05 PM
celimanST QUOTE depends on which "4a" you want....... Mar 31, 2004 - 6:14 PM
toyotaspeed_90 although coomers is a success..... i gotta ask why... Mar 31, 2004 - 7:51 PM
ghostdog QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 7:51 PM) al... Mar 31, 2004 - 7:56 PM
celimanST QUOTE blacktop is still incredibly overrated. not ... Mar 31, 2004 - 8:08 PM
ghostdog why boost a 20v? its not built for it. go with a 4... Mar 31, 2004 - 8:29 PM
Coomer If you do plan to turbo the engine later, I'd ... Mar 31, 2004 - 8:33 PM
celimanST I do have one question if I was to do the swap cou... Mar 31, 2004 - 9:26 PM
DmVinny So would a 4agze be worth it over a 7afe/3sgte swa... Mar 31, 2004 - 10:38 PM
toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (DmVinny @ Apr 1, 2004 - 3:38 AM) So would a... Mar 31, 2004 - 10:40 PM
DmVinny Easier as far as??? do i still have to rewire the ... Mar 31, 2004 - 10:47 PM
FallenHero Build up the 7a. Apr 1, 2004 - 12:05 AM
Coomer QUOTE (DmVinny @ Mar 31, 2004 - 7:38 PM) So would ... Apr 1, 2004 - 12:23 AM
toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (Coomer @ Apr 1, 2004 - 5:23 AM) QUOTE (DmVi... Apr 1, 2004 - 12:33 AM
celimanST when you order a new engine does it come with a EC... Apr 1, 2004 - 12:50 AM
DmVinny QUOTE (Coomer @ Mar 31, 2004 - 10:23 PM) QUOT... Apr 1, 2004 - 1:39 AM
toyotaspeed_90 with a gze or a 20V yes, you will need the ecu tha... Apr 1, 2004 - 3:06 AM
FAQdaWorld I'd just like to add that there has been no pr... Apr 1, 2004 - 10:49 AM
Coomer QUOTE (FAQdaWorld @ Apr 1, 2004 - 7:49 AM) I'd... Apr 1, 2004 - 9:59 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner No offense to you guys interested in a 4A swap, wh... Apr 1, 2004 - 10:54 PM
FAQdaWorld Keep in mind that the 4agze in the mk I mr2 only p... Apr 2, 2004 - 1:05 AM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (FAQdaWorld @ Apr 2, 2004 - 6:05 AM) Keep in... Apr 2, 2004 - 2:31 PM
celimanST Lets say I was to take Heros advice and build my 7... Apr 3, 2004 - 12:44 AM
toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Apr 2, 2004 - 3:54 AM... Apr 5, 2004 - 10:39 PM
celimanST Well I have decided that right now a swap is just ... Apr 6, 2004 - 11:23 PM
toyotaspeed_90 ^^^ heh... i made that mistake too... i spent over... Apr 7, 2004 - 1:02 AM![]() ![]() |
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