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> 3s-ge from a RS200 Altezza, not serious- but can it be done?
post Apr 1, 2004 - 1:12 AM
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Like the topic reads- is it possible? I was playing a little GT3 tonight and got to thinking... and also- why hasnt anybody here completed a 3s-ge swap into a celica?
btw when i say possible i mean cost effective possibe for all you "anything can be done with $$$"...


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post Apr 4, 2004 - 4:22 AM
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QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 1, 2004 - 11:03 PM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Apr 1, 2004 - 9:57 PM)
many parts will be needed, the altezza is a RWD car

RWD engine into a fwd car isnt the easiest swap

The 3SGE was used in the Celica(FWD) AND the Altezza(RWD). It's the transmission and headers that would be different.

the title of the post reads 3s-ge from a RS200 altezza

i kno that 3sge engines came in celicas, but the 3sge from an rs200 altezza is in a rwd configuration.

the transmission is not the only difference between a celica 3sge and a altezza 3sge.

yes, the altezza exhaust manifold will have to be switched with one from a celica 3sge but its more than just that

most likely the accessories are mounted in a way favorable for a longitudal mounting of the engine, which may not give room for a motor mount when you take the engine and swap it into a fwd application.


http://www.billzilla.org/3sgonstand.jpg note how the alternator would be on the opposite side, possibily close to hitting the power steering rack, or maybe even in the way of the axel that would power the passenger side wheel

http://www.billzilla.org/ae3sgecover.jpg and look at the intake manifold, it faces the oposite direction as a celica 3sge, and not only that, the TB is a lot lower, which, when a 3s block is in a celica, the engine leans back towards the firewall.

this would make for an awkward intake setup, which could be solved by using a celica 3sge intake manifold, but that only makes the parts list longer

so far from what i can tell, new accessories and their mounting brackets will be needed, along with celica 3sge engine mounts, a celica 3sge exhaust manifold and a celica 3sge intake manifold to make intake plumbing easier and better routed

like i said, not the easiest swap, a lot of parts sourcing is required, perhaps even fabrication.

its a lot like buying just a 3sgte and trying to swap it into an ST

This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Apr 4, 2004 - 4:23 AM


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- saleeka   3s-ge from a RS200 Altezza   Apr 1, 2004 - 1:12 AM
- - aaronc222   A 3SGE should bolt in just the same as a 3SGTE or ...   Apr 1, 2004 - 1:30 AM
- - doGGy   And as long as Euro and JDM GT with 3SGE has 175 h...   Apr 1, 2004 - 5:20 AM
- - macavely   well a few weeks ago i asked the question has anyo...   Apr 1, 2004 - 8:36 AM
- - 97sccelica   many parts will be needed, the altezza is a RWD ca...   Apr 1, 2004 - 11:57 PM
- - aaronc222   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Apr 1, 2004 - 9:57 PM) many pa...   Apr 2, 2004 - 2:03 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Apr 1, 2004 - 11:57 PM) many p...   Apr 2, 2004 - 8:25 AM
- - Mousetrashdiver   Got an interesting question... could you take a 3s...   Apr 2, 2004 - 9:00 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Mousetrashdiver @ Apr 2, 2004 - 9:00 AM) Go...   Apr 2, 2004 - 9:07 AM
- - Mousetrashdiver   Yeah thats pretty much what i wanted to know... bu...   Apr 2, 2004 - 9:11 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Mousetrashdiver @ Apr 2, 2004 - 9:11 AM) Ye...   Apr 2, 2004 - 9:20 AM
- - Mousetrashdiver   QUOTE yea thats the last AWD Celica imported to th...   Apr 2, 2004 - 11:19 AM
- - macavely   yes there is the mighty st205   Apr 2, 2004 - 11:21 AM
- - Yobbe   Without knowing anything about it, I would think y...   Apr 2, 2004 - 11:22 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (macavely @ Apr 2, 2004 - 1:25 PM) QUOTE (97...   Apr 2, 2004 - 2:27 PM
- - Mousetrashdiver   Damn... i want one lol (DONT WE ALL)   Apr 3, 2004 - 12:59 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 1, 2004 - 11:03 PM) QU...   Apr 4, 2004 - 4:22 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Apr 4, 2004 - 9:22 AM) QUOTE (...   Apr 4, 2004 - 12:56 PM
- - 97sccelica   yea, i was a little sleepy when i made that post, ...   Apr 4, 2004 - 3:53 PM


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