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What makes our engines so underpowered?, Compaired to JDM's and other countries?

Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
Rjb23 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?

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Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM

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QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM)

I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Supersprynt.

Back in the day Nissan, Infiniti, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Honda, Acura, Hyundai, Mazda, Lexus and Subaru all had high powered cars.

Nissan - 300ZX, 240SX (Non-Turboed Silvias)
Infiniti - G20
Toyota - Supra, MR2, Celica Alltrac (GT4)
Mitsubishi - 3000GT, Eclipse GSX, VR4's, Galant VR-4's
Honda - Civic SI, Prelude
Acura - ITR, GSR, Legend, NSX, CL, TL
Hyundai - Tiburon, Elantra (Have been out for more than a decade)
Mazda - RX-7, MX-6, MX-5, MX-3
Lexus - SC300, SC400, GS300, GS400
Subaru - 2.5RS

Sinner you are comparing with the Solara, GT-S celica, and MR-S which aren't as high powered as the Eclipse GSX's, RX-7's, MR2....etc

PLUS NOW, there are no RX-7's, supras, MR2's, ALLTRACS, but there are the few new cars which are sweet.

Its not really the demand but the decision of what cars to bring out to the USA and what to make. The Auto Manufacturers seem to go in a phase every 5 years where there are Super cars, then economic cars, then super duper cars, the demand of cars probably more effect on the cheaper end....performance cars tend to be costly and focused on people who have 'money."

If you think about it on the evolution of celicas the 5GC and 6GC are a lot better than the 7GC in that they had the 3SGTE.....7GC's didn't come out with AWD turbo cars to compete with the Rally cars out now. Concluding that the Auto Manufacturers just decide what they want to sell and what they think would make more of the money during that perioud.

No, you're right.. there were other cars being released.

Again, I'm stating that there really werent any cars with any serious amount of balls during 94-99 like there is today. We missed the curve, if you honestly believe that engine specs have decreased since 94-99, you are absolutely out of your mind. Nowadays it's not uncommon for that RSX, WRX, or 350Z with at least double the output of any 6gc out there today, stock. It just so happens toyota wasn't really doing anything during that time period.

Now what do we have? The Scion line.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Apr 24, 2004 - 6:22 PM

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Rjb23 What makes our engines so underpowered? Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM

orvillescelica Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en... Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM

sinner96ST QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i... Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM

Supersprynt Its not because theres no demand, theres always be... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM

sinner96ST QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM

Jabberwock I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM

sinner96ST QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I... Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM

toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM

Jabberwock Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM

TRDCelicaST A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM

Mousetrashdiver The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM

Jabberwock hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM

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