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post Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?
 
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post Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
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Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe maybe the caldina has a chance in the US..hehe?

Honestly 94-99 did have a lot more high powered cars than now.
Here is a list of cars that I think are better than cars now.

Nissan 300ZX...Twin Turbo and can be modded to be faster than the 350Z
Nissan Silvia...not really a US car but who doesn't have a SR20DET in their
Toyota Supra...nuff said
Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX....the newer generation just can't compare
Mitsubishi 3000GT...can you say VR...
Mazda RX-7...RX-8 isn't as good and the RX-7 TT ROTARY!

6GC out there today...man GT-4 ST205 just kicks A$$!!! WRX can't compare except for the STI...RSX has no chance....350Z I would rather have the GT4.

But you are probably comparing to the US SPECS hehe...

However the output of 94-99 was much greater than now. 300ZX VS. 350Z, Supra VS. ? Eclipse GSX VS. Eclipse GT 3000GT vs. EVO(not a good comparison though) RX-7 VS. RX-8

You get the point but I am sure that the newer ones would not easily beat the older models. 94-99 was great for performance but sucked for American 6GC's.

Compare those and you will notice the drop in horsepower but mainly because of the disappearence of turbos.

But you have to understand that the reason TOYOTA didn't have much of a line in 94-99 is that the supra was doing great for high performance, LEXUS was doing great for luxury, and toyota had the moset sales for any car....camry.


Now if you compare cars worldwide....6GC's were just on the top of performance with the Beams and GT-4's.

Posts in this topic
- Rjb23   What makes our engines so underpowered?   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
- - orvillescelica   Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   Its not because theres no demand, theres always be...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - Jabberwock   I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I...   Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM
- - Jabberwock   Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - TRDCelicaST   A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - Mousetrashdiver   The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - Jabberwock   hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - sinner96ST   I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm p...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
- - Pali_playa   QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM) I lov...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
- - sinner96ST   yeah.. the engines are meant to last forever, but ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   toyota put lower motors in the celica at that time...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:17 PM
- - brianforster   i dont see the big hype about the celica gts, its ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 25, 2004 - 4:01 AM)...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:04 AM
- - Uppitycracker   Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch about car...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:37 AM
- - uzthedentist   i assume its due to fuel, the 100ron rating of jap...   Apr 25, 2004 - 8:22 AM
- - Junior   To answer the original question, toyota cars with ...   Apr 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (TRDCelicaST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM) A Hyu...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:10 AM
- - playr158   hey guys, i must apologize for the hyundia owner...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:55 AM
- - KAMiX   QUOTE Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch abo...   May 2, 2004 - 7:45 PM
- - saleeka   First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see peo...   May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM


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