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post Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?
 
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post Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
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I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm paying sports car insurance for a car with not even 110 @ the crank. It seems to me if I were to buy a newer (insert model here) that it would come with almost double the horsepower right out of the factory. I hear a lot of people ask why toyota decided to put a 7afe or a 5sfe in to a celica shell. It just seems like a lawnmower engine in a lambo, it makes absolutely no sense.

A lot of those cars you mentioned were highly tuneable, it just seems that given the release of toyota's previous sports cars, (mr-2, alltrac, supra, celica) you would've think they would have carried them all the way up until 2000, if not further. Hence the reason why I throw out the demand reasoning out there.

I should do more reading to find out exactly why they just quit selling MR-2's and Supra's in the states. They just didn't sell? If the demand was always there, why not stick with a highly tuneable 3sgte or 2jz until this very day? Seems they did it everywhere else but the United States. I've seen crazy numbers come out of 3s / 2jz dynos with stock blocks. It's about money too but really, having a 'sport' divison of your car company would logically make sense to appeal to the gearheads & speedfreaks that are on this planet..

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- Rjb23   What makes our engines so underpowered?   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
- - orvillescelica   Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   Its not because theres no demand, theres always be...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - Jabberwock   I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I...   Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM
- - Jabberwock   Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - TRDCelicaST   A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - Mousetrashdiver   The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - Jabberwock   hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - sinner96ST   I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm p...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
- - Pali_playa   QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM) I lov...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
- - sinner96ST   yeah.. the engines are meant to last forever, but ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   toyota put lower motors in the celica at that time...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:17 PM
- - brianforster   i dont see the big hype about the celica gts, its ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 25, 2004 - 4:01 AM)...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:04 AM
- - Uppitycracker   Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch about car...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:37 AM
- - uzthedentist   i assume its due to fuel, the 100ron rating of jap...   Apr 25, 2004 - 8:22 AM
- - Junior   To answer the original question, toyota cars with ...   Apr 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (TRDCelicaST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM) A Hyu...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:10 AM
- - playr158   hey guys, i must apologize for the hyundia owner...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:55 AM
- - KAMiX   QUOTE Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch abo...   May 2, 2004 - 7:45 PM
- - saleeka   First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see peo...   May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM


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