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post Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?
 
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post Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM)
I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm paying sports car insurance for a car with not even 110 @ the crank. It seems to me if I were to buy a newer (insert model here) that it would come with almost double the horsepower right out of the factory. I hear a lot of people ask why toyota decided to put a 7afe or a 5sfe in to a celica shell. It just seems like a lawnmower engine in a lambo, it makes absolutely no sense.

A lot of those cars you mentioned were highly tuneable, it just seems that given the release of toyota's previous sports cars, (mr-2, alltrac, supra, celica) you would've think they would have carried them all the way up until 2000, if not further. Hence the reason why I throw out the demand reasoning out there.

I should do more reading to find out exactly why they just quit selling MR-2's and Supra's in the states. They just didn't sell? If the demand was always there, why not stick with a highly tuneable 3sgte or 2jz until this very day? Seems they did it everywhere else but the United States. I've seen crazy numbers come out of 3s / 2jz dynos with stock blocks. It's about money too but really, having a 'sport' divison of your car company would logically make sense to appeal to the gearheads & speedfreaks that are on this planet..

"I hear a lot of people ask why toyota decided to put a 7afe or a 5sfe in to a celica shell. It just seems like a lawnmower engine in a lambo, it makes absolutely no sense."

like jabber said they had the supra for power. there is no point to put out to power cars. the 6gc was ment more for looks. and is it not sexy? they put in those 2 engines cause its meant to be a daily driver car. and they know those are good engines that last a long time(dont u just love toyota engineering).

"I should do more reading to find out exactly why they just quit selling MR-2's and Supra's in the states. They just didn't sell?"

they werent in demand. the sale for those 2 cars drematically decreased. why? cause SUV(Stupid Ugly Vehicle) were the new trend. it was around that time when suv's blew up and ppl loved them. so what did toyota do? said f**k the sports car were doin SUVs now. ta da the highlander is introduced. and i think sequoa round that time. now ppl want sports cars again. voila the volta.

Posts in this topic
- Rjb23   What makes our engines so underpowered?   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
- - orvillescelica   Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   Its not because theres no demand, theres always be...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - Jabberwock   I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I...   Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM
- - Jabberwock   Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - TRDCelicaST   A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - Mousetrashdiver   The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - Jabberwock   hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - sinner96ST   I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm p...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
- - Pali_playa   QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM) I lov...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
- - sinner96ST   yeah.. the engines are meant to last forever, but ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   toyota put lower motors in the celica at that time...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:17 PM
- - brianforster   i dont see the big hype about the celica gts, its ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 25, 2004 - 4:01 AM)...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:04 AM
- - Uppitycracker   Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch about car...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:37 AM
- - uzthedentist   i assume its due to fuel, the 100ron rating of jap...   Apr 25, 2004 - 8:22 AM
- - Junior   To answer the original question, toyota cars with ...   Apr 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (TRDCelicaST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM) A Hyu...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:10 AM
- - playr158   hey guys, i must apologize for the hyundia owner...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:55 AM
- - KAMiX   QUOTE Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch abo...   May 2, 2004 - 7:45 PM
- - saleeka   First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see peo...   May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM


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