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post Apr 29, 2004 - 6:18 PM
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Do we, as in GT owners, manual's of course, have a chance against the Ford Probe GT and the 92+ predlude vtec 2.2? Any body with experience?


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post May 1, 2004 - 5:40 PM
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QUOTE (spunky393 @ May 1, 2004 - 10:23 PM)
The 4:11 transmissions are hard to find in any street car.  s2000's have the final drive, but they also have a kick butt hp range.  I don't know what you're talkwing about with that ST.  No one around here really drives anything like a corolla GT-S.  I drive my celica, and i drive (when allowed) my father's 69 427 chevy.  Two very different cars.  I know a lot more than you would think, i learned from what a lot of people would consider the best.  And i learned from the diagrams and hands-on experience.  I just believe the celica has a lot more potential than you do, and that's not wrong for either of us, so we should leave it at that.

That's not what you were saying earlier... you basically were saying everyone is dumb because we think realistically that a Celica GT cannot beat any of the mentioned cars. I have no doubt that a built 5SFE can lay down some good power (working on that with our MR2)... but I'm also gonna say... a modded 5SFE can only go so far. You're actually the first person that I've ever heard say the Stock toyota trannies are good for perfromance... when in fact... they only do what they're designed to do. Also note: the S2000 tranny may have similar final drive ratios... but their gearing is complete different... the way the engine makes its power is completely different... the way it delivers the power is completely different. You can't just say because this tranny has a similar final drive means it can perform the same. No... the trannies, which are geared completely different, is the factor along with the power delivery and output.

The reason I'm still posting... it's not because of anything you said to anyone else... but mostly because of the disrespect you showed towards me. I'm not putting down the Celica, nor am I ever. I, along with all of the countless others who have done swaps, bought performance parts, and have actually pushed their cars against another, have figured over time that the USDM 6th gen Celicas, in stock mechanical trim, don't even come close to competeing against other cars in its class... in terms of power and acceleration (even mod for mod).

Also, I kinda figured you would be one that has been around domestics... from your mention of the Prelude's 2.2 vs. the Celica's 2.2... so I didn't question your knowledge of cars... only your interpretation of "Final Drive ratios"... but as you may know by now... size isn't everything... nor is comparing numbers.

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- spunky393   Do we have a chance?   Apr 29, 2004 - 6:18 PM
- - Junior   prelude we don't have a chance stock. Probe, ...   Apr 29, 2004 - 6:19 PM
- - spunky393   Is it because we have the same sized engine, and t...   Apr 29, 2004 - 6:20 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (spunky393 @ Apr 29, 2004 - 4:20 PM) Is it b...   Apr 29, 2004 - 6:51 PM
- - Drocay   probe gt has turbo.   Apr 29, 2004 - 7:15 PM
- - Junior   QUOTE (Drocay @ Apr 29, 2004 - 5:15 PM) probe gt h...   Apr 29, 2004 - 7:30 PM
- - spunky393   QUOTE (Drocay @ Apr 29, 2004 - 7:15 PM) probe gt h...   Apr 29, 2004 - 7:57 PM
- - 94Toy   You should walk the 92 Probe. I think that those ...   Apr 29, 2004 - 8:04 PM
- - spunky393   I wasn't talking specific, just very curious b...   Apr 29, 2004 - 8:09 PM
- - mikew04   92 and older gts have a turbo, and ALOT more torqu...   Apr 29, 2004 - 8:11 PM
- - blkGT   QUOTE (spunky393 @ Apr 29, 2004 - 5:57 PM) QUOTE (...   Apr 29, 2004 - 9:38 PM
- - spunky393   Yes, i see that now, thanks bike.   Apr 29, 2004 - 9:52 PM
- - Akimbo   Turbo'd probes are quick. The stock ones, ya k...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:05 PM
- - celicarocker   theres one in my town with some hubcap spinnaz on ...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:32 PM
- - Jdog1385   lol, what an ugly car. as they say ****ed On Race...   Apr 30, 2004 - 10:23 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (spunky393 @ Apr 30, 2004 - 1:09 AM) I wasn...   Apr 30, 2004 - 11:54 PM
- - spunky393   the heck the final drive doesn't matter. our ...   May 1, 2004 - 12:01 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   against a GT.... seeing how i've heard a 20V s...   May 1, 2004 - 4:21 AM
- - sinner96ST   That probe is the ugliest thing i've ever seen...   May 1, 2004 - 5:06 AM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Evey week someone comes up with a new car to be ba...   May 1, 2004 - 1:42 PM
- - shid   5sfe, why do you only post on this site to bash ou...   May 1, 2004 - 2:05 PM
- - spunky393   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ May 1, 2004 - 1:42 PM) Evey wee...   May 1, 2004 - 2:14 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (spunky393 @ May 1, 2004 - 5:01 AM) the heck...   May 1, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - spunky393   The 4:11 transmissions are hard to find in any str...   May 1, 2004 - 5:23 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (spunky393 @ May 1, 2004 - 10:23 PM) Th...   May 1, 2004 - 5:40 PM
- - spunky393   Well, i don't want to get on a bad side of you...   May 1, 2004 - 5:55 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (spunky393 @ May 1, 2004 - 10:55 PM) Well, i...   May 1, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - uzthedentist   he he, this thread would have never happened if to...   May 1, 2004 - 6:50 PM
- - spunky393   Don't make me cry dentist   May 1, 2004 - 7:07 PM
- - mikeh117   I don't know about the US spec Probe and Prelu...   May 1, 2004 - 7:44 PM
- - Anub1s   ^^^^^ THAT IS AWESOME!   May 1, 2004 - 8:50 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Shid- I dont bash our cars,its just people over es...   May 1, 2004 - 8:51 PM
- - kuruptedsnake   pleasssssssse after i put my headers on i went loo...   May 1, 2004 - 9:17 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   For real, after my SAFCII I took out an Aston Mart...   May 1, 2004 - 9:57 PM
- - shid   QUOTE its annoying and so are your replies to me ...   May 1, 2004 - 10:12 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE (kuruptedsnake @ May 1, 2004 - 7:17 PM) plea...   May 1, 2004 - 10:14 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Amen   May 1, 2004 - 10:25 PM
- - kuruptedsnake   and i promise u that the girl in the 95 probe that...   May 1, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   QUOTE (shid @ May 1, 2004 - 8:12 PM) QUOTE it...   May 2, 2004 - 9:35 PM
- - spunky393   hey, lets just cut the crap, I've always told ...   May 2, 2004 - 9:59 PM
- - SlowCelica94   I personally love the 4th gen lude w/ an H22. I wa...   May 2, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - shid   It's just that you seem to jump at ANY oppurtu...   May 2, 2004 - 10:32 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   QUOTE (shid @ May 2, 2004 - 8:32 PM) It's...   May 2, 2004 - 11:37 PM
- - shid   Dude, lay off. YOU seem to be the only one freakin...   May 3, 2004 - 12:32 AM


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