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> What makes our engines so underpowered?, Compaired to JDM's and other countries?
post Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?
 
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post May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM
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First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see people who think with their brains and not with their imagination... Anyways, people seem to be forgetting the 2 main resons why all those fast powerful imports were never brought into the states, or even considered so- Emmissions and the strong yen in the mid 90's... Yes there were plenty of performance models overseas, and some were fourtunate enough to be sold in the states like the supra and RX7. problem was, it was very difficult to pass emissions with these cars while still maintaining their power. perfect example of this were the supra and MR2 turbos. Yes you could get them in the US, but not california toward the end of their lifespans- they couldent meet the emmissions requirements as they aged and the rules became more strict. Rumor has it subaru wanted to bring the wrx over here before the new generation debuted, but they just couldent make it pass emmissions testing. So even if the car was lucky enough to pass the emissions, the yen was very strong compared to the us dollar, making ALL japanese cars more expensive than most competiotors. Thats partially why the 6th gen gt-4 did not make it over here, it would have cost in the low 30 thousand range, and thats 10 yeras ago. If you look at the price of a 93 RX7- base list was 32,500... 2 years later in 95 that cost had risen to 37,000 even... 93 300GT VR-4 was 37,200. In 99 it departed at $44,600- a $7400 increase. basically, the economy of the time was a big factor in these types of cars loosing popularity, they just ended up being outpriced due to unfavorable exchange rates.


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Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver
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- Rjb23   What makes our engines so underpowered?   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
- - orvillescelica   Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i...   Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   Its not because theres no demand, theres always be...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - Jabberwock   I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su...   Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I...   Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM
- - Jabberwock   Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - TRDCelicaST   A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor...   Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - Mousetrashdiver   The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - Jabberwock   hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - sinner96ST   I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm p...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
- - Pali_playa   QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM) I lov...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
- - sinner96ST   yeah.. the engines are meant to last forever, but ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   toyota put lower motors in the celica at that time...   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:17 PM
- - brianforster   i dont see the big hype about the celica gts, its ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 25, 2004 - 4:01 AM)...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:04 AM
- - Uppitycracker   Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch about car...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:37 AM
- - uzthedentist   i assume its due to fuel, the 100ron rating of jap...   Apr 25, 2004 - 8:22 AM
- - Junior   To answer the original question, toyota cars with ...   Apr 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (TRDCelicaST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM) A Hyu...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:10 AM
- - playr158   hey guys, i must apologize for the hyundia owner...   Apr 29, 2004 - 11:55 AM
- - KAMiX   QUOTE Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch abo...   May 2, 2004 - 7:45 PM
- - saleeka   First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see peo...   May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM


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