Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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What is it that causes our engines to be so under powered? Is it the ECU's, or what?
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May 2, 2004 - 9:00 PM
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First things First- AMEN KWANZA... Nice to see people who think with their brains and not with their imagination... Anyways, people seem to be forgetting the 2 main resons why all those fast powerful imports were never brought into the states, or even considered so- Emmissions and the strong yen in the mid 90's... Yes there were plenty of performance models overseas, and some were fourtunate enough to be sold in the states like the supra and RX7. problem was, it was very difficult to pass emissions with these cars while still maintaining their power. perfect example of this were the supra and MR2 turbos. Yes you could get them in the US, but not california toward the end of their lifespans- they couldent meet the emmissions requirements as they aged and the rules became more strict. Rumor has it subaru wanted to bring the wrx over here before the new generation debuted, but they just couldent make it pass emmissions testing. So even if the car was lucky enough to pass the emissions, the yen was very strong compared to the us dollar, making ALL japanese cars more expensive than most competiotors. Thats partially why the 6th gen gt-4 did not make it over here, it would have cost in the low 30 thousand range, and thats 10 yeras ago. If you look at the price of a 93 RX7- base list was 32,500... 2 years later in 95 that cost had risen to 37,000 even... 93 300GT VR-4 was 37,200. In 99 it departed at $44,600- a $7400 increase. basically, the economy of the time was a big factor in these types of cars loosing popularity, they just ended up being outpriced due to unfavorable exchange rates.
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
Rjb23 What makes our engines so underpowered? Apr 24, 2004 - 4:09 PM
orvillescelica Keep in mind that the 5sfe and the 7afe are old en... Apr 24, 2004 - 4:42 PM
sinner96ST QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 2:09 PM) What i... Apr 24, 2004 - 4:53 PM
Supersprynt Its not because theres no demand, theres always be... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:05 PM
sinner96ST QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:05 PM) ... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:12 PM
Jabberwock I think you are wrong sinner96ST...I agree with Su... Apr 24, 2004 - 5:42 PM
sinner96ST QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Apr 24, 2004 - 3:42 PM) I... Apr 24, 2004 - 6:02 PM
toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (orvillescelica @ Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM) Ke... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:37 PM
Jabberwock Well the matrix is pretty good for toyota...hehe m... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
TRDCelicaST A Hyundai Elantra!? Oh god, that might be wor... Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM
Mousetrashdiver The only advantage i see the newer ones having is ... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:42 PM
Jabberwock hehe yeah elantras are pretty bad but thats what h... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
sinner96ST I love the look of my car, but honestly, i'm p... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:48 PM
Pali_playa QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 10:48 PM) I lov... Apr 24, 2004 - 10:03 PM
sinner96ST yeah.. the engines are meant to last forever, but ... Apr 24, 2004 - 10:07 PM
toyotaspeed_90 toyota put lower motors in the celica at that time... Apr 24, 2004 - 10:17 PM
brianforster i dont see the big hype about the celica gts, its ... Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 25, 2004 - 4:01 AM)... Apr 25, 2004 - 12:04 AM
Uppitycracker Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch about car... Apr 25, 2004 - 12:37 AM
uzthedentist i assume its due to fuel, the 100ron rating of jap... Apr 25, 2004 - 8:22 AM
Junior To answer the original question, toyota cars with ... Apr 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
playr158 QUOTE (TRDCelicaST @ Apr 24, 2004 - 8:39 PM) A Hyu... Apr 29, 2004 - 11:10 AM
playr158 hey guys, i must apologize for the hyundia owner... Apr 29, 2004 - 11:55 AM
KAMiX QUOTE Im sick of hearing a bunch of kids bitch abo... May 2, 2004 - 7:45 PM![]() ![]() |
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