Jul 5, 2004 - 11:08 PM
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who would win?.. I got a chance to see a 7gc GT-turbo in action the other day...it looked fast.. its running at 4psi low boost..and 8 psi at high pushing..200hp at 8psi.. thats basically it... do you think a 6gc 3s swap can eat up this 7gen turbo-gt?
or can the 7g turbo-gt spank us? -------------------- [color=#FF0000] I MISS MY RED BABY =(
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Jul 10, 2004 - 11:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 31, '03 From England, United Kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Bottom line: The 2ZZGE cannot stand upto the the maximum potential power output of the 3S-GTE. Period. Have you any idea how high you can take a GTE? It's turbo from the off. It's designed for big power. The 2ZZGE is an N/A engine that people just happened to have made turbos for as an aftermarket/custom part. Those two scenarios are just not the same.
Granted, any race between any 2 cars is partially dependant on to what degree both cars have been tuned but if we're talking an extreme 6gc Vs. an extreme example of a 7gc, I just don't see the 7th gen winning. Stock GTE's can be anything upto 255bhp (depending on the car they came out of, generation of engine, what territory you're in blah, blah, blah). If you can take 2ZZGE upto 255bhp, I'd say you're onto a pretty good thing. The JDM spec GTE from the ST-205 STARTS there. I've seen the lower UK spec (235bhp) taken to well over 400bhp. I don't know exactly what a JDM engine would run to. I know traction is an issue for both cars, being FF, so you wouldn't want to go to those power levels in either (Well, I wouldn't, save that for the GT-Four.) But you get the idea. Now don't think for one minute I'm dissin' 7gcs cos I'm not. I like all Celicas and a helluva lot of other Toyotas/general Jap performance cars besides. So I don't want to stir up any animosity, both are cool cars and as fellow lovers of Toyota we should all just get along. I'm just voicing my opinion, that's all. P.S. 6th gen Celicas aren't that heavy ya know..... |
Ryu3x16 7gc GT-turbo vs 6gc 3s swap Jul 5, 2004 - 11:08 PM
shid Don't be stupid Gee.
You'd own him by so ... Jul 5, 2004 - 11:11 PM
RedSunCelica RE: 7gc GT-turbo vs 6gc 3s swap Jul 5, 2004 - 11:12 PM
Drocay you'd rape it. Jul 5, 2004 - 11:14 PM
RyCeCuBe ok i'm not gonna make a bad impression on my f... Jul 6, 2004 - 1:06 AM
moltar Sixth gens are prettier though!!!... Jul 6, 2004 - 1:10 AM
shid Hey Ryce- btw, the 7th gens and the 6th gen hatche... Jul 6, 2004 - 1:32 AM
RyCeCuBe haha nice to know and thanks..yes, what shid say a... Jul 6, 2004 - 1:59 AM
macavely well seeing as my mom needs a newer car i was look... Jul 6, 2004 - 2:42 AM
97sccelica i would say they would be about even.
the 7gc may... Jul 6, 2004 - 2:52 AM
RyCeCuBe macavely..
i don't think i've ever seen a ... Jul 6, 2004 - 3:14 AM
macavely QUOTE (RyCeCuBe @ Jul 6, 2004 - 3:14 AM) macavely.... Jul 6, 2004 - 7:11 AM
Jeremy1210 Wouldn't the 3sgte win b/c of the torque kicki... Jul 6, 2004 - 10:17 AM
poix QUOTE (RyCeCuBe @ Jul 6, 2004 - 6:59 AM) yea toyot... Jul 6, 2004 - 11:23 AM
macavely QUOTE (poix @ Jul 6, 2004 - 11:23 AM) QUOTE (RyCeC... Jul 6, 2004 - 11:30 AM
RedSunCelica The way i see it is both cars have good potential.... Jul 6, 2004 - 6:58 PM
Phat_Boi What about a fixed up Turbo GT-S? I think there... Jul 6, 2004 - 7:12 PM
shid QUOTE (Phat_Boi @ Jul 7, 2004 - 12:12 AM) What abo... Jul 6, 2004 - 7:31 PM
Ryu3x16 QUOTE (Jeremy1210 @ Jul 6, 2004 - 8:17 AM) Wouldn... Jul 6, 2004 - 8:14 PM
shid The 7th gen GT celica has 135hp and 125 torque. th... Jul 6, 2004 - 9:22 PM
hata i dont even consider 7th gens as real celica's... Jul 7, 2004 - 12:04 AM
97sccelica QUOTE (RyCeCuBe @ Jul 6, 2004 - 12:14 AM) 97scceli... Jul 7, 2004 - 1:22 AM
RyCeCuBe the 7th gen gt celica has 140..yea only 5 hp diffe... Jul 7, 2004 - 1:30 AM
neoklis I dont think its merely practice or driving abilit... Jul 7, 2004 - 6:19 AM
RyCeCuBe ^^ u didn't know we were talkin bout stock car... Jul 7, 2004 - 1:42 PM
remjay QUOTE (macavely @ Jul 6, 2004 - 9:30 AM) QUOTE (po... Jul 7, 2004 - 3:14 PM
Mr7AFE ill be finding out very soon. a guy with a turbo 7... Jul 8, 2004 - 11:14 PM
Ryu3x16 you're racing a turbo'd GTS with a 7afe?..... Jul 9, 2004 - 1:39 AM
97sccelica QUOTE (RyCeCuBe @ Jul 6, 2004 - 10:30 PM) i just s... Jul 9, 2004 - 2:10 AM
poix QUOTE (remjay @ Jul 7, 2004 - 8:14 PM) QUOTE (maca... Jul 9, 2004 - 8:26 AM
shid QUOTE (Ryu3x16 @ Jul 9, 2004 - 6:39 AM) you're... Jul 9, 2004 - 10:57 AM
RyCeCuBe QUOTE (97sccelica @ Jul 9, 2004 - 7:10 AM) do you ... Jul 9, 2004 - 2:42 PM
Ryu3x16 i have a friend with a 3s swap with fmic..and he k... Jul 9, 2004 - 10:41 PM
Ryu3x16 QUOTE (shid @ Jul 9, 2004 - 8:57 AM) QUOTE (Ryu3x1... Jul 9, 2004 - 11:16 PM
RyCeCuBe ^^ the 7th gens r very simple since there's on... Jul 10, 2004 - 12:58 AM
97sccelica QUOTE (RyCeCuBe @ Jul 9, 2004 - 11:42 AM) QUOTE (9... Jul 10, 2004 - 2:49 AM
RyCeCuBe o cool, if u want...i can send u sum of their vids... Jul 10, 2004 - 3:38 AM
Mr7AFE QUOTE you're racing a turbo'd GTS with a 7... Jul 10, 2004 - 6:21 PM
Ryu3x16 QUOTE (Mr7AFE @ Jul 10, 2004 - 4:21 PM) QUOTE you... Jul 11, 2004 - 12:21 AM![]() ![]() |
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