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post Aug 10, 2004 - 12:09 AM
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So i dont normaly post... ever haha.... but i need your guys help on this one. I drive a standard 5s-fe celica with intake, cat-back, plugs wires, and stage 2 clutch. Now how might that stand against a fairly stock DOHC Vtec CRX? I dont have alot of experience against Vtec's so i must ask.. Im fairly sure my engine wont hold up that well of a fight but i would like to make sure... I bet im leaving alot of important information out of this but yeah... just some advice thats all. Thanks...


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post Aug 11, 2004 - 4:52 PM
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QUOTE (psyko @ Aug 11, 2004 - 11:31 AM)
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"Si" via auto store on a DX

Edit: Si almost has double the HP as your car


ya it was that body style(99), had an si sticker on the back, redlined at 7, i don't know of any other civic that does that, and the speedometer went kinda high i think it was like 160. and they aren't double the hp, they have like 160. an st on paper has 115. and the si's torque is ass, it's like 110, i have more then that. either way it was close, they aren't that fast so to the dude that started this post, go for it. turboinduction, if u dont' believe me check it : http://www.clubcivic.com/board/specs.php

Civic Si (1999)

HP -160
MAX HP - 7600
TRQ -111
MAX TRQ - 7000
0-60 7.2 Seconds
Curb Weight - 2601

Celica ST (1995)

HP -110
MAX HP -5600
TRQ 115
MAX TRQ -2800
0-60 10.1 Seconds
Curb Weight -2415


Now comes the year differences. Your model is a 1995 whereas this Civic must of been a 1999 or 2000. Hondas put considerable power to the wheels in reference to their flywheel horse power. They have incredible top end power (note the max HP at 7600rpm). Your car has aged and the difference WHEEL HP is a guess at 60-65. So let me rephrase and say that a Si will have 60-70% more power than a 95 ST. Initial torque of both is almost identical, however the max trq for the Celica comes very fast. If I were to guess how this match would look, it would go like this:

Both start
Civic will pull forward
Celica will pull towards front of civic (not quite there)
Celica will shift
Civic will hit VTEC and top end
Celica will squint to read Civic license plate

Not that I like Civics (because I dont) but you cant expect to believe a base model Celica from the mid-90's will beat a 2000 top model Si. If this were the case my GT should keep up with the S2000.


EDIT: I'm not trying to call you a liar Psyko, but alot of people on the website claim they can beat all kinds of impossible cars. "I beat a GSX, Type-R integra" etc etc. It may of been a young kid with no driving experience. In this case, I can beat them with a slower car just due to strong differences in driving abilities, though a highly unlikely case.

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- Dtown_GT   GT Vs. Vtech   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:09 AM
- - Digndoug   Im guessing thats the b16 with 160hp .. you will ...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:11 AM
- - shid   You'd do ok.. It might be a little close.. the...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:20 AM
- - Digndoug   keep in mind, that its in a crx.. so its prolly on...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:21 AM
- - Ale_lock   Crx > GT Like doug said, weight & hp. Comp...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:24 AM
- - drdos   are you sure its a crx? ive beaten a crx b4 but it...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:28 AM
- - shid   old skool CRXs = easy as hell to beat   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:33 AM
- - Akimbo   Depends, I'd vote CRX. CRX's are fun littl...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:36 AM
- - Ale_lock   ENGINE HF DX Si DOHC VTEC <Car models Val...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:39 AM
- - Ryu3x16   crx....i eat them everyday... anyways..i raced a ...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:44 AM
- - Ale_lock   ST/GT's are around 2,7k lbs & Converts are...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:46 AM
- - Ale_lock   Edit: Double post, sorry.   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:46 AM
- - Ryu3x16   QUOTE (Meonspeed @ Aug 9, 2004 - 10:46 PM) ST/GT...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:47 AM
- - Ale_lock   Well it's probably right since the #'s whe...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:48 AM
- - Kwanza26   Ummm... you'll get smacked bad. I don't e...   Aug 10, 2004 - 1:13 AM
- - 97sccelica   a b16 swap into a crx or civic dx hatch is no joke...   Aug 10, 2004 - 1:58 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 10, 2004 - 6:58 AM) a b16 ...   Aug 10, 2004 - 2:41 AM
- - Hanyo   you guys forgot to bring up the idea that the gt r...   Aug 10, 2004 - 5:17 AM
- - Supersprynt   The other week I raced a B16 swapped 97/98 Civic h...   Aug 10, 2004 - 7:06 AM
- - turboinduction   lol - you'll get spanked But DO NOT FORGET - ...   Aug 10, 2004 - 9:33 AM
- - acenova   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Aug 10, 2004 - 10:17 AM) you guys f...   Aug 10, 2004 - 9:49 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Aug 10, 2004 - 10:33 AM) l...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:04 AM
- - SlowCelica94   lol, "you still look better at the finish lin...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:09 AM
- - snadman   Yeah they redline at 6400rpm not 5800...check your...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:30 AM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 10, 2004 - 10:04 AM)...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:33 AM
- - LatinKraze   QUOTE (snadman @ Aug 10, 2004 - 8:30 AM) Yeah they...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:36 AM
- - Coomer   I've ridden in a '88 Civic sedan with a B1...   Aug 10, 2004 - 10:59 AM
- - Digndoug   As talking about this subject of the b16's.. M...   Aug 10, 2004 - 11:10 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Aug 10, 2004 - 11:33 AM) I...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:30 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Aug 10, 2004 - 12:10 PM) As talk...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:31 PM
- - LatinKraze   I raced my friends del sol Vtech. Yep, I lost. 3-4...   Aug 10, 2004 - 12:57 PM
- - psyko   ya know, i raced a civic si the other day, and he ...   Aug 11, 2004 - 12:47 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (psyko @ Aug 10, 2004 - 9:47 PM) ya know, i ...   Aug 11, 2004 - 3:42 AM
- - turboinduction   "Si" via auto store on a DX Edit: Si al...   Aug 11, 2004 - 9:51 AM
- - psyko   QUOTE "Si" via auto store on a DX Edit:...   Aug 11, 2004 - 11:31 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (psyko @ Aug 11, 2004 - 4:31 PM) ya it was t...   Aug 11, 2004 - 11:34 AM
- - LatinKraze   The guy in the 99 Si could have been a sucky drive...   Aug 11, 2004 - 11:36 AM
- - nik   Well I have a problem I got a crx turbo wanting to...   Aug 11, 2004 - 3:38 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (psyko @ Aug 11, 2004 - 11:31 AM) QUOTE...   Aug 11, 2004 - 4:52 PM
- - celimanST   well I friend of mine that has a CRX and unless yo...   Aug 11, 2004 - 5:41 PM
- - redtcel   my best friend is getting rid of his b16a crx righ...   Aug 11, 2004 - 7:21 PM
- - psyko   QUOTE EDIT: I'm not trying to call you a liar ...   Aug 12, 2004 - 12:03 AM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE (celimanST @ Aug 11, 2004 - 10:41 PM) The CR...   Aug 12, 2004 - 12:57 AM
- - BlackSTX   I think you've got to consider the distance of...   Aug 12, 2004 - 8:43 AM
- - Dtown_GT   thanks alot for the comments.. Im getting a new st...   Aug 12, 2004 - 3:18 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (Dtown_GT @ Aug 12, 2004 - 1:18 PM) O and no...   Aug 12, 2004 - 3:24 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Dtown_GT @ Aug 12, 2004 - 8:18 PM) O and no...   Aug 12, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - Ale_lock   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Aug 11, 2004 - 5:52 P...   Aug 13, 2004 - 1:02 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 12, 2004 - 12:24 PM) QUOTE (Dt...   Aug 13, 2004 - 8:08 PM
- - Dtown_GT   sorry i was just pointing out i had a civic and a ...   Aug 14, 2004 - 9:17 PM
- - celimanST   QUOTE QUOTE The CRX has more potential for speed i...   Aug 17, 2004 - 11:20 PM
- - red_94gts   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Aug 10, 2004 - 2:33 PM) lo...   Aug 19, 2004 - 9:44 PM


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