umm...sure buddy.... Options

[jmoneydtb]

*the numbers are quotes taken from 2nd post on supra tt engine swap thread by charlie97L*

1) Yes, the 2JZ has 320 HP stock, and the 3S-GTE has 225-255 HP (depending on the year). However the 3S-GTE has more potential than the 2JZ.

how so? a stock longblock that can hold over 1000 whp and run 10.5's???....

2) It is interesting to note, that in almost every instance when a tuning company has built a Supra to race, they put in a 3S-GTE. Why? You can get a lot more HP out of it. (I know, if you can do this, why can’t you put the 2JZ in the Celica? It is because you can mount the 3S-GTE longitudinally in the HUGE Supra engine bay, lots of room to work.)

um wrong...they swap cause its lighter and can make up to the legal amount of power for that race circuit, and because there is more room to work with... and they do not swap for a 3s when on a drag circuit.

3) The 3S-GTE has won multiple World Rally Championships for Toyota, and Rallying is really the most strenuous test you can put on an engine. What has the 2JZ done, besides been in the Fast and the Furious? Nothing.

true the 3s-gte is awesome, its used in rally cause its light and makes good power, they also keep it in a celica for rally! supras arent meant for rally! and just to let you know, f&f was a ricers dream come true...it doesnt give the supra any credit that it deserves.

4) While I’m on the F&F, Supras are not 10-second cars stock. And it’s going to take a lot more than “15 grand” to make a 2JZ hit the 10 second mark.

correct...supras arent 10 second cars...they 7 second cars...i have personally worked on a supra w/ only about $7g and it is a low 11 second car. (no n2o, we dont believe in that stuff) just have to be smart and know what your doing.

sorry for bringin up the supra again on a celica forum...but someone obviously knows a lot more about celicas than they know about supras...

This post has been edited by jmoneydtb: Aug 23, 2004 - 2:07 PM

[jmoneydtb]

lol...yeah true, its just got on me that dude was all about just one thing being the awesomest over all without all the facts...sorry everybody. a better trd tomorrow...i like that one...lol

sev 408 - its apu, sp63 turbo, hks 272 cams, hks 80mm wastegate, 3" exhaust, Greddy 4row fmic, apexi safc, greddy type-s bov. i say $7g cause we are back on stock block now cause the other block got messed up bad. dont buy arizona clutch disk! the disk is too hard and causes crankwalk. if that hadnt happened we would still have the je 20 over forged 8.5:1 pistons running 25psi w/ about 575-600 whp...and it would there would be $10g into it instead of $7g, now we are at 23 psi and around 550 whp. we havent officially timed it at the track on the new setup but it did run a 12 on the factory turbos. damn those itty bitty 550cc injectors!

This post has been edited by jmoneydtb: Aug 23, 2004 - 2:46 PM