6G Celicas Forums

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte, with a GE head. no gte.
post Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
+Quote Post
x_itchy_b_x



Enthusiast
*****
Joined Nov 12, '02
From Webster Ma.
Currently Offline

Reputation: 1 (100%)




i have found a head thanks to a memeber, im trying to convince my dad into helping with the project. alright so im brainstorming for the 5sgte. since i can bolt the turbo-manifold directly on theres no problem there. but what about the intake manifold. it has a different bolt pattern if what i heard it right. so id need a GE intake manifold. or aftermarket intake for a 3sge. now the 5sfe uses a maf sensor would the 3sge manifold use the same type? anyone have more information on this. also on the GE head were would i tap it for oil? or does it use the same location and sensor as the 5sfe?

Also. il be running out of fuel with the amount of boost i want to run. the 7mgte injectors 440cc will fit but the ohms are wrong, for a coil pack is it as simply as sondering a resistor on one of the injector harness leads? if so thats the next step.

This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Sep 15, 2004 - 10:10 PM


--------------------
 
Start new topic
Replies
post Sep 17, 2004 - 12:54 PM
+Quote Post
Kwanza26



Enthusiast
*****
Joined Dec 27, '03
From Nor Cal
Currently Offline

Reputation: 0 (0%)




QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 17, 2004 - 4:30 AM)
Not doubting you here but I think you would be able to use the 5s harness with the 3sge intake manifold... I can see the problem with the 3sgte due to TVIS and other sensors etc... but would the 3sge really be that different?

You can use the 5S harness, but you'll need all of the appropriate plugs from the 3SG cause more than likely things like TPS, plugs for MAP or AFM, distributor plugs, ignitor/coil, etc are all different. All of these things will need to be wired in for the 3SG head to work correctly, not to mention you'll probably need to re-pin the ECU plugs to match the 3SG ecu. TVIS is not an isse. It's one plug and does not need to be plugged in. I don't see having and utilizing TVIS as an advantage, but that all depends which head he has.
QUOTE
haha its not reallt the need for being different its that the im planning to buy is amazing port and polish and everything. i read that te 3sgte head and 3sge head are the same. anyone wanna say different? haha and guys this wont happend for a while ill jsut source parts for now. but once thingswork out for me ill build that motor.

Each generation of the 3SG wore a different head. This is also refers partially to the 3SGTE. The USDM 1st gen 3SGTE (ST165) had the bigport head with TVIS while the 2nd gens (ST185 models 91-93) does not. I believe the ST205 3SGTE has the same head as the ST185 gen 3SGTE... As far as the n/a heads are concerned, 1st gen 3SGE had TVIS (bigport), 2nd gen did not (smallport), 3rd gen was shimless, and 4th/5th gens were the Beams red and black respectively.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Sep 17, 2004 - 12:55 PM


--------------------
"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"

1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver...

1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...

1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be...

Posts in this topic
- x_itchy_b_x   REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte   Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   why not run a 3sgte intake manifold?? as for gett...   Sep 16, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - Doge   isnt the 3sge a 2.0 liter head? what block are yo...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - Coomer   Yeah, I'm curious as to which head you plan on...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:49 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 16, 2004 - 10:37 PM) isnt the 3s...   Sep 16, 2004 - 6:45 PM
- - Doge   doesn't the combustion chamber have to be matc...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:01 AM) doesn...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:22 PM
- - Doge   Oh sweet! You learn something new every day...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:24 PM
- - celicarocker   im completely lost... i know nothing about engines...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:38 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i pan on buying a new block anyways. from here htt...   Sep 16, 2004 - 10:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The only problem I see, the 5SFE bottom end ...   Sep 16, 2004 - 11:30 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   haha its not reallt the need for being different i...   Sep 17, 2004 - 10:16 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 17, 2004 - 4:30 AM) No...   Sep 17, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The USDM 1st gen 3SGTE (ST165) had the bigpo...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:00 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 4:00 AM) do...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:31 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:24 AM) Oh sweet...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm pretty sure 91-93 used a non-TVIS he...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:12 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 7:12 AM) let me ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:46 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm also trying to clearify to you that ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:42 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM) QUOTE I...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:50 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE haha i love these topics. alright thats what...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:21 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 2:21 PM) QUOTE h...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE or go stand alone right? thats probly better...   Sep 18, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 11:58 PM) QUOTE ...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:03 PM
- - playr158   neverstop if he's doin a total performance eng...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   Standalone would be by far, the best bet...   Sep 21, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   Stand alones are good ideas.. if you have the mone...   Sep 22, 2004 - 12:29 PM
|- - Punch   QUOTE(NEVERSTOP @ Sep 22, 2004 - 5:2...   Dec 25, 2005 - 9:23 AM
- - killer_siller   a 5sgte is a 5sgte is a 5sgte, no matter what bloc...   Dec 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: February 24th, 2026 - 9:34 PM