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> REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte, with a GE head. no gte.
post Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
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i have found a head thanks to a memeber, im trying to convince my dad into helping with the project. alright so im brainstorming for the 5sgte. since i can bolt the turbo-manifold directly on theres no problem there. but what about the intake manifold. it has a different bolt pattern if what i heard it right. so id need a GE intake manifold. or aftermarket intake for a 3sge. now the 5sfe uses a maf sensor would the 3sge manifold use the same type? anyone have more information on this. also on the GE head were would i tap it for oil? or does it use the same location and sensor as the 5sfe?

Also. il be running out of fuel with the amount of boost i want to run. the 7mgte injectors 440cc will fit but the ohms are wrong, for a coil pack is it as simply as sondering a resistor on one of the injector harness leads? if so thats the next step.

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post Sep 17, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 4:00 AM)
dont know about the 165 but the 185 and 205 heads are different.. 185 head has TVIS while the 205 does not.. the intake and exhaust ports are different also on them.

I'm pretty sure 91-93 used a non-TVIS head. I've worked on an ST165 and an ST185 at the shop and I'm pretty certain the later model ST185 (91-93) used the smallport head. I'm uncertain about the ST205... The exact model alltracs I worked on was a 92 Alltrac... vs an 89 Alltrac...
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LOL I was just referring to the intake manifold there.. not the head also tongue.gif

All things work in conjunction and once you start putting things together, you'll have to do the other stuff too. For example: TPS may be different, and the older 3SGTE uses an external coil/ignitor opposed to an internal distributor type... amougst other little things. All of these little things inter-connect to the manifold and read off the AFM/MAP so you gotta do it correctly if you wanna use stockish electronics. This is the sort of stuff I wouldn't try to cut and paste on.

>>> I should also point out we don't know which 3SG head exactly he has...

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- x_itchy_b_x   REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte   Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   why not run a 3sgte intake manifold?? as for gett...   Sep 16, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - Doge   isnt the 3sge a 2.0 liter head? what block are yo...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - Coomer   Yeah, I'm curious as to which head you plan on...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:49 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 16, 2004 - 10:37 PM) isnt the 3s...   Sep 16, 2004 - 6:45 PM
- - Doge   doesn't the combustion chamber have to be matc...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:01 AM) doesn...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:22 PM
- - Doge   Oh sweet! You learn something new every day...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:24 PM
- - celicarocker   im completely lost... i know nothing about engines...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:38 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i pan on buying a new block anyways. from here htt...   Sep 16, 2004 - 10:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The only problem I see, the 5SFE bottom end ...   Sep 16, 2004 - 11:30 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   haha its not reallt the need for being different i...   Sep 17, 2004 - 10:16 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 17, 2004 - 4:30 AM) No...   Sep 17, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The USDM 1st gen 3SGTE (ST165) had the bigpo...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:00 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 4:00 AM) do...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:31 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:24 AM) Oh sweet...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm pretty sure 91-93 used a non-TVIS he...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:12 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 7:12 AM) let me ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:46 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm also trying to clearify to you that ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:42 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM) QUOTE I...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:50 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE haha i love these topics. alright thats what...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:21 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 2:21 PM) QUOTE h...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE or go stand alone right? thats probly better...   Sep 18, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 11:58 PM) QUOTE ...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:03 PM
- - playr158   neverstop if he's doin a total performance eng...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   Standalone would be by far, the best bet...   Sep 21, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   Stand alones are good ideas.. if you have the mone...   Sep 22, 2004 - 12:29 PM
|- - Punch   QUOTE(NEVERSTOP @ Sep 22, 2004 - 5:2...   Dec 25, 2005 - 9:23 AM
- - killer_siller   a 5sgte is a 5sgte is a 5sgte, no matter what bloc...   Dec 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM


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