 REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte, with a GE head. no gte. |
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i have found a head thanks to a memeber, im trying to convince my dad into helping with the project. alright so im brainstorming for the 5sgte. since i can bolt the turbo-manifold directly on theres no problem there. but what about the intake manifold. it has a different bolt pattern if what i heard it right. so id need a GE intake manifold. or aftermarket intake for a 3sge. now the 5sfe uses a maf sensor would the 3sge manifold use the same type? anyone have more information on this. also on the GE head were would i tap it for oil? or does it use the same location and sensor as the 5sfe?
Also. il be running out of fuel with the amount of boost i want to run. the 7mgte injectors 440cc will fit but the ohms are wrong, for a coil pack is it as simply as sondering a resistor on one of the injector harness leads? if so thats the next step. This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Sep 15, 2004 - 10:10 PM -------------------- |
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Sep 17, 2004 - 11:43 PM
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The blocks are of the same family and are based off of the S series block design (3S and 5S). The 5S has increased deck height (taller block), and a .5 overbore. Those are the only major differences between the two, aside from reinforcement ribs and such. The internals are also different, the 3SG blocks having much stronger internals being a performance engine while the 5SFE has a longer crank (longer/bigger stroke). The stroke increase and the bore increase is what makes the 5S block a 2.2 liter as opposed to the 3S block which is 2.0. Now, because they are from the same family of blocks, the water passages and such are all cut the same way (or at least, very very similar). They line up more or less. Because the cuts in the block are the same, the cuts in the head are the same. Refer to NEVERSTOP's picture of the combustion chambers. Even though the two heads are completely different, they share similar cooling passages in the head because they share the same block family... On a side note, Toyota did do a revision to the 5S block in the later models. I forget which exactly, but I think it happened in 97 or 98 or something like that. This was the last block revision for the 5SFE and these 5S blocks, as I'm told, do not line up to the older 3SG heads. The later model 3SG heads (3rd gen, BEAMS, possibly ST205) may line up to the last revision, meaning they may not line up to the older 5S blocks... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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can you explain alittle more though? how does the 2.0 head match the 2.2 block? Posts in this topic
x_itchy_b_x REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
NEVERSTOP why not run a 3sgte intake manifold??
as for gett... Sep 16, 2004 - 12:07 AM Doge isnt the 3sge a 2.0 liter head? what block are yo... Sep 16, 2004 - 5:37 PM Coomer Yeah, I'm curious as to which head you plan on... Sep 16, 2004 - 5:49 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 16, 2004 - 10:37 PM) isnt the 3s... Sep 16, 2004 - 6:45 PM Doge doesn't the combustion chamber have to be matc... Sep 16, 2004 - 7:01 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:01 AM) doesn... Sep 16, 2004 - 7:22 PM Doge Oh sweet! You learn something new every day... Sep 16, 2004 - 7:24 PM celicarocker im completely lost... i know nothing about engines... Sep 16, 2004 - 7:38 PM x_itchy_b_x i pan on buying a new block anyways. from here htt... Sep 16, 2004 - 10:43 PM NEVERSTOP QUOTE The only problem I see, the 5SFE bottom end ... Sep 16, 2004 - 11:30 PM x_itchy_b_x haha its not reallt the need for being different i... Sep 17, 2004 - 10:16 AM Kwanza26 QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 17, 2004 - 4:30 AM) No... Sep 17, 2004 - 12:54 PM NEVERSTOP QUOTE The USDM 1st gen 3SGTE (ST165) had the bigpo... Sep 17, 2004 - 11:00 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 4:00 AM) do... Sep 17, 2004 - 11:31 PM NEVERSTOP QUOTE I'm pretty sure 91-93 used a non-TVIS he... Sep 18, 2004 - 2:12 AM Kwanza26 QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 7:12 AM) let me ... Sep 18, 2004 - 2:46 AM NEVERSTOP QUOTE I'm also trying to clearify to you that ... Sep 18, 2004 - 12:42 PM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM) QUOTE I... Sep 18, 2004 - 12:50 PM NEVERSTOP QUOTE haha i love these topics. alright thats what... Sep 18, 2004 - 1:21 PM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 2:21 PM) QUOTE h... Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM NEVERSTOP QUOTE or go stand alone right? thats probly better... Sep 18, 2004 - 10:58 PM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 11:58 PM) QUOTE ... Sep 20, 2004 - 9:03 PM playr158 neverstop if he's doin a total performance eng... Sep 20, 2004 - 9:13 PM Kwanza26 Standalone would be by far, the best bet... Sep 21, 2004 - 12:07 AM NEVERSTOP Stand alones are good ideas.. if you have the mone... Sep 22, 2004 - 12:29 PM
Punch QUOTE(NEVERSTOP @ Sep 22, 2004 - 5:2... Dec 25, 2005 - 9:23 AM killer_siller a 5sgte is a 5sgte is a 5sgte, no matter what bloc... Dec 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM |
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