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post Sep 25, 2004 - 8:57 PM
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at a stop light we both stopped then we didnt go right off the bat so i gave it a little bit of gas and was like 2 car lengths ahead of him then all of a sudden i just hear squealing tires and a rideciously loud sound (but nice) so i didnt want to embaress myself, so i just stopped.

he would of owned me huh.
 
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post Sep 27, 2004 - 2:02 AM
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QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 6:51 AM)

i wouldnt say youve been incorect i would say you could defintly argue the whole honda isnt a solid motor. as dor your opinion how could you ever argue with out using your opinion its virtuatly impossible. and just for the record arguing is the best way to learn imo, ive learned a lot from this.

anyways why do people say the 4age is not a streetable motor, because the powerband is soo high?

also ITB's, your talking about throttle bodies right?

Of course... but I don't really use my personal opinion (try not to) when I argue about Hondas. I don't like Hondas too much, I'll tell you that... but I have my "personal" reasons... ;]

As for 4AGs... the reason they don't make a lot of streetable power is somewhat like you say... but there's also a bit more to it. Just to get a 4AG to the borderline non-streetability takes a lot of work and the results don't pay off. We're talking things like high-comp pistons, big duration/lift camshafts, upgraded valvetrain, shimless underbucket conversion, oversized valves, port/polish job, lightening... depending on the set-up... the power results are almost always not as high as people expect. My current set-up, Crower 272 Duration 8.3mm lift camshafts, TRD valve springs, Jun light flywheel (coomer's old flywheel), 2.25" exhaust to a resonator to a flowmaster 40, all on a smallport 4AG is only putting me around 130whp-140whp. My ae86 idles pretty smooth at 1400 rpms with very slight overlap, but any less than that, the engine overlaps badly and shakes. It drives great, is pretty quick... but if you knew exactly how easy it is to squeeze the same amount of power out of a D16... it would seem like an awful lot of work to do to a 4AG. A B16A with bolt-ons and tuning can make easily 140-150 whp...

Yes... ITBs... Individual throttle bodies. Possibly the best EFI intake set-up for an n/a car...


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Posts in this topic
- DamDirtyApes   almost just raced a prelude   Sep 25, 2004 - 8:57 PM
- - lagos   i eat preludes for lunch.   Sep 25, 2004 - 8:59 PM
- - red_94gts   you probably eat alot of things for lunch   Sep 25, 2004 - 9:04 PM
- - Andason   nothing personal, but this thread is worthless. i...   Sep 25, 2004 - 9:10 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   nothing personal, but ur post is worthless, i didn...   Sep 25, 2004 - 9:22 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (DamDirtyApes @ Sep 25, 2004 - 6:22 PM) noth...   Sep 25, 2004 - 10:51 PM
- - celicarocker   my auto ST took a prelude off a line... by about h...   Sep 25, 2004 - 11:51 PM
- - shid   Unless they're vtec or medium mods, they'r...   Sep 26, 2004 - 12:09 AM
- - blkGT   RE: almost just raced a prelude   Sep 26, 2004 - 12:20 AM
- - recneps   16.9 what is that a stock 6 gen st? i like my pre...   Sep 26, 2004 - 12:51 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (DamDirtyApes @ Sep 25, 2004 - 7:22 PM) lago...   Sep 26, 2004 - 1:43 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   normal preludes are slow. ive never raced one wit...   Sep 26, 2004 - 6:24 AM
- - DamDirtyApes   this guy defintly had something going on under the...   Sep 26, 2004 - 9:05 AM
- - Magic   DamDirtyApes you are not from the Greek island Rh...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:11 AM
- - SlowCelica94   I raced a 4th gen prelude VTEC. I held up even wit...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:56 AM
- - red_94gts   yeah for the power they come with stock, the h22 p...   Sep 26, 2004 - 10:10 PM
- - recneps   thats what i hate about hondas and love about toyo...   Sep 26, 2004 - 10:15 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   eh im just babbling on , i know its only a honda. ...   Sep 26, 2004 - 10:17 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (red_94gts @ Sep 27, 2004 - 3:10 AM) yeah fo...   Sep 26, 2004 - 10:39 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 26, 2004 - 6:43 AM) QUOTE (DamD...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:01 PM
- - belizecelica   I had a 94 ST and crashed it, then i traded the wr...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:06 PM
- - belizecelica   I had a 94 ST and crashed it, then i traded the wr...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:07 PM
- - belizecelica   sorry i posted twice   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:13 PM
- - recneps   QUOTE Unfortunately, you don't know what you...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:16 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 4:16 AM) umm ...   Sep 26, 2004 - 11:33 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   Kwanza is my hero...   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:10 AM
- - recneps   QUOTE Kwanza is my hero... oh im not done, ive ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:21 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 5:21 AM) ok i will...   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:29 AM
- - vangSTa_celica   I have to agree with Kwanza. People know Hondas a...   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:35 AM
- - recneps   wow i feel i almost redeemed my self there.   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:41 AM
- - Doge   I agree... the civic is the main reason honda has ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:02 AM
- - recneps   i totally disagree with the fact the hondas are so...   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:20 AM
- - Ryu3x16   yeah..true.. honda's are great cars.... my cou...   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:23 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 6:20 AM) i to...   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:43 AM
- - recneps   QUOTE Oh... and go ahead and try to dispute what I...   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:51 AM
- - Ryu3x16   kwanza...i've notice that..how come everytime ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:01 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 6:51 AM) i wouldn...   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:02 AM
- - recneps   QUOTE kwanza...i've notice that..how come ever...   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:16 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Ryu3x16 @ Sep 27, 2004 - 7:01 AM) kwanza......   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:17 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 7:16 AM) now i wou...   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:18 AM
- - shadycrew31   lets face it guys hondas are turning into fords.. ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 2:51 AM
- - recneps   QUOTE >>>Edited in<<<< I want...   Sep 27, 2004 - 8:34 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 25, 2004 - 9:59 PM) i eat ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 10:19 AM
- - Anub1s   It all depends on the generation of the Prelude. M...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:02 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Sep 27, 2004 - 7:51 AM) lets ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:24 AM
- - recneps   yeah but dosnt the B18C have a longer stroke and s...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:28 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 4:28 PM) yeah but ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:44 AM
- - Andason   good lord, someone should rename this thread to th...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:48 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (recneps @ Sep 27, 2004 - 1:34 PM) engines b...   Sep 27, 2004 - 11:50 AM
- - belizecelica   sorry i meant i have a 4th gen 'lude, and its ...   Sep 27, 2004 - 12:27 PM
- - kdash   oh no not another honda arguement again   Sep 27, 2004 - 1:28 PM
- - red_94gts   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Sep 27, 2004 - 3:39 AM) QUOTE (r...   Sep 30, 2004 - 11:25 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (red_94gts @ Oct 1, 2004 - 4:25 AM) hey i us...   Oct 1, 2004 - 11:00 AM
- - Gilbert_619   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 1, 2004 - 4:00 PM) QUOTE (re...   Oct 1, 2004 - 1:58 PM
- - Gilbert_619   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 1, 2004 - 4:00 PM)QUOTE...   Oct 1, 2004 - 1:59 PM
- - red_94gts   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 1, 2004 - 4:00 PM) QUOTE (re...   Oct 2, 2004 - 12:19 AM
- - recneps   QUOTE (red_94gts @ Oct 2, 2004 - 5:19 AM) QUO...   Oct 2, 2004 - 1:00 AM
- - red_94gts   well **** i raced another one tonight, just to see...   Oct 2, 2004 - 1:54 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (red_94gts @ Oct 2, 2004 - 6:54 AM) well ***...   Oct 2, 2004 - 11:45 AM
- - red_94gts   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 2, 2004 - 4:45 PM) . The ty...   Oct 2, 2004 - 7:44 PM


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