Sep 29, 2004 - 11:02 AM
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Well, ten days into ownership of the 3sgte and I can safely confirm what everyone else has said over and over....these engines run very rich. I have read many posts about this and about the fact that Toyota made it this way to avoid lean conditions. However, I would imagine that running an overly rich condition cannot be good for the engine over time either. I am wondering whether for engine longevity and reliability purposes, us 3sgte owners should take action either through an S-AFC or stand alone to lean out the A/F ratio. Obviously, we can see some horsepower gains from doing so but I am particularly interested in responses dealing with engine life.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 29, 2004 - 12:38 PM
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I think the issue about fuel pumps might be something akin to the issue behind hard drives.
You can always buy a bigger hard drive; but the bigger the hard drive you buy, the larger the "smallest" file becomes. IE, on a 60 MB hard drive, u could have files that were sized at only 200 bytes; but if you're hard drive is 60 GB, your smallest file size is now 800k (I forget what the exact numbers are, but the principal should be aptly demonstrated). This is because hard drives, no matter how large, have a set number of sectors. So, 60 MB divided by 500,000,000 sectors; or 60 GB divided by 500,000,000 sectors.. The one with the 60 GB will have larger sectors; and since a file cannot take up less than one sector, it has to take up a full 800k. Maybe fuel pumps are the same thing; and can only be divided into so many increments based on the delivery system. Like, the stock 5fse fuel pump is small, and so 50% of that pump is delivering for 50whp; (or something, I might just be acting crazy), and 49% is 49 whp. But with a Supra fuel pump rated at 500 whp; 50 percent is 250whp, while 49 percent is 245 whp. Then, instead of risking running lean, the ECU rounds up, and has the pump deliver more fuel in the next incriment it can go. What do you guys think? Talking out of my ass? No sense? |
jgreening Dangers of Running Rich Sep 29, 2004 - 11:02 AM
Jdog1385 you should try to lean it out a bit. nothing craz... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:05 AM
lagos my theory is that the swap runs richer then a norm... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:07 AM
jgreening Lagos, I am still running the 5sfe pump. Jayson c... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:12 AM
Supersprynt Keep in mind they have 3sgte fuel pumps that are r... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:22 AM
jgreening QUOTE Keep in mind they have 3sgte fuel pumps that... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:25 AM
Supersprynt I figure because they are a different generation. ... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:27 AM
jgreening Whats a TC? Also, are you going to do any engine ... Sep 29, 2004 - 11:46 AM
Supersprynt tc - turbocharger, my bad I start shortening thing... Sep 29, 2004 - 12:12 PM
97sccelica it fouls o2 sensors sooner(only if very very very ... Sep 29, 2004 - 12:17 PM
Supersprynt ECU's dont dump more fuel they retard timing. ... Sep 29, 2004 - 12:22 PM
Supersprynt No, that doesnt make any sense at all, LOL sorry I... Sep 29, 2004 - 2:17 PM
Kwanza26 Running a bit rich doesn't hurt the engine. I... Sep 29, 2004 - 5:04 PM
shid QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 29, 2004 - 7:17 PM) No, t... Sep 29, 2004 - 8:34 PM
Doge QUOTE (jgreening @ Sep 29, 2004 - 9:12 AM) Lagos, ... Sep 29, 2004 - 9:07 PM
Doge QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 29, 2004 - 9:07 AM) my theory i... Sep 29, 2004 - 9:13 PM
jgreening Thanks for the post Doge. It looks like up to 12p... Sep 29, 2004 - 9:26 PM
Supersprynt QUOTE (jgreening @ Sep 29, 2004 - 10:26 PM) T... Sep 30, 2004 - 7:30 AM
thedevilmaycrie QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 29, 2004 - 6:07 PM) QUOTE (jgree... Sep 30, 2004 - 10:06 AM
jgreening QUOTE How do you figure 180whp at 12psi? The JDM 3... Sep 30, 2004 - 12:25 PM
Supersprynt I've never heard 221 stock, only 225. Now, 10%... Sep 30, 2004 - 12:54 PM
Doge QUOTE (thedevilmaycrie @ Sep 30, 2004 - 8:06 AM) Q... Sep 30, 2004 - 5:56 PM
Coomer QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 30, 2004 - 10:54 AM) I... Sep 30, 2004 - 6:26 PM
Supersprynt http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55... Oct 4, 2004 - 4:42 PM
lagos so.... if fuel pressure is controled by the inject... Oct 4, 2004 - 7:21 PM
Supersprynt we do have FPRs, stock FPRs. Oct 4, 2004 - 11:18 PM
jgreening QUOTE After reading through this <very long... Oct 5, 2004 - 1:47 PM
YellowTwo QUOTE (97sccelica @ Sep 29, 2004 - 10:17 AM) but o... Oct 10, 2004 - 12:30 AM
Doge Yeah you have to know what you're doing to get... Oct 10, 2004 - 3:30 AM
YellowTwo QUOTE (Doge @ Oct 10, 2004 - 1:30 AM) Yeah you hav... Oct 10, 2004 - 4:15 PM
jgreening I just thought I would share this answer to my ori... Oct 15, 2004 - 3:17 PM![]() ![]() |
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