Sep 25, 2004 - 11:16 PM
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I've already made my cosmetic and suspension plans for my Celica that will come in the future, but now I have to think about what is going to be under the hood. Sometimes it only frustrates me to think about it so I figured I would get some ideas and opinions.
OK, so far I've pretty much ruled out a 7a-fte project. It just doesn't seem like it will pay off in the long run. The minimum goal I'm wanting to achieve is 250 whp, and 250 lb-ft. of torque. How I get that... I really don't care. The problem I'm having is that I don't know where to start. I want something that is going to completely blow people's minds when they see it. I know that getting something like that requires custom work - and I'm not talking about the homemade kind (unless you're someone that knows how to do it). I don't know anyone at all that can make custom headers, mounts, intakes, piping, etc. I know that probably the most fun project would be a 7a-gte. I'm really impressed by frotou's project. After seeing all the custom work he's had done, I doubt I would ever be able to pull something like that off. I guess the only other option I have would to be a 4a-gze or 3s-gte swap. After seeing all the trouble that John went through with his 4a-gze, I'm kinda iffy about that as well. I know that the 3s-gte would give me trouble since I have an ST. I haven't done that much research about it. I don't know which generation of the 3s-gte is better, or if it's more common to find a USDM 3s-gte for the swap or a JDM 3s-gte. Sitting around and thinking about all this just makes me want to turn the Celica into a beater and save up for an EVO. But despite that, all my friends say I should keep the Celica and fix it up beyond belief. I guess that's the path I'll go unless a swap or hybrid project drives me insane. I am by no means a car expert, and I wouldn't even touch my engine in any way other than to change the oil, spark plugs, belts, or any other job that a monkey with a wrench could do successfully. I'm all about tearing it apart to learn about it, but I wouldn't consider putting anything together on my car without some supervision (I think I got lucky when I successfully replaced my front axles). I dunno, maybe I know more about cars than I think, but I'm still nervous to do anything big. Alright, I started rambling. So give me your ideas, opinions, criticism or anything else you can come up with. |
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Sep 30, 2004 - 2:06 PM
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No doubt the the late model 4AGZE's were built very well... IMO, better than even the 3SGTE in many ways, but my point overall is, tuning tuning tuning. 90% of the people who look to "bolt-on" modifications are not people who tune their cars. I'm sure you get what I mean when I say that... but like I said above... it's a matter of an efficient blower and tuning. 250 would be pushing the 4AGZ block to its very limits... I've torn apart these blocks, and true enough, they're very well built... but still, 250whp out of a 1.6 liter requires quite a bit of boost. So much boost that I'll get uncomfortable with making tuning mistakes. And yeah... excellent forum... =D I'm glad you're here too... good info being passed and I might be looking into an engine soon... ;] -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Delta_Phoenix Looking for advice on performance Sep 25, 2004 - 11:16 PM
Kwanza26 250 whp is a VERY ambitious goal. The 4AGZE canno... Sep 25, 2004 - 11:33 PM
Delta_Phoenix I guess I'll just get a new car then. No poten... Sep 25, 2004 - 11:48 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (Delta_Phoenix @ Sep 26, 2004 - 4:48 AM) I g... Sep 25, 2004 - 11:55 PM
Delta_Phoenix I just want to take full advantage of the Celica... Sep 26, 2004 - 3:25 AM
celicasupra209 How about this. swap your 7afe into a
new/low-mi... Sep 27, 2004 - 4:43 PM
Mr2swift For starters, the 4agze will and can get to 250+ t... Sep 28, 2004 - 11:35 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 29, 2004 - 4:35 AM) For star... Sep 29, 2004 - 12:22 AM
Mr2swift No sir, I am not talking about building the motor ... Sep 29, 2004 - 1:59 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 29, 2004 - 6:59 PM) No ... Sep 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM
celicasupra209 QUOTE (celicasupra209 @ Sep 27, 2004 - 9:43 PM) Ho... Sep 29, 2004 - 4:44 PM
playr158 you don't need the gt-4 hood for the S/c i don... Sep 29, 2004 - 4:52 PM
psyko i know edo17982 is rebuilding the 7a internals (he... Sep 30, 2004 - 9:16 AM
Mr2swift QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Sep 29, 2004 - 9:41 PM) QUOTE (M... Sep 30, 2004 - 1:43 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (psyko @ Sep 30, 2004 - 2:16 PM) i know edo1... Sep 30, 2004 - 1:45 PM
Supersprynt He wants 160 wheel hp? thats optimistic on a 7a, b... Sep 30, 2004 - 1:52 PM
Delta_Phoenix Well now that the matter of tuning the 7A came up ... Oct 1, 2004 - 7:31 AM
recneps ive seen a dyno sheet of a 7a-fte makign 160whp at... Oct 1, 2004 - 8:15 AM
recneps heres the dyno
http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=... Oct 1, 2004 - 8:27 AM
lagos think of it this way.....what motor would give you... Oct 1, 2004 - 9:08 AM
Delta_Phoenix I've been looking around at some of the swaps ... Oct 2, 2004 - 7:31 AM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (Delta_Phoenix @ Oct 2, 2004 - 12:31 PM) But... Oct 2, 2004 - 11:33 AM
Delta_Phoenix I've read about everything I possibly can abou... Oct 3, 2004 - 4:19 AM
shadycrew31 i feel as though the 7a isnt getting enough credit... Oct 3, 2004 - 6:34 AM
Delta_Phoenix I'm just not too interested in boosting an eng... Oct 3, 2004 - 11:03 AM
Mr2swift QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 2, 2004 - 4:33 PM)
The silv... Oct 3, 2004 - 11:41 AM
playr158 "i feel as though the 7a isnt getting enough ... Oct 3, 2004 - 12:20 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 3, 2004 - 11:34 AM) i fee... Oct 3, 2004 - 2:46 PM
shadycrew31 oh i know that with stock internals it will suck. ... Oct 3, 2004 - 4:57 PM
shadycrew31 oh one more thing kwanza do you know if the 4a... Oct 3, 2004 - 5:05 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 3, 2004 - 9:57 PM) but i ... Oct 3, 2004 - 6:14 PM
shadycrew31 i wish i had your bain kwanza. your like a toyota ... Oct 3, 2004 - 7:05 PM
Delta_Phoenix Haha, yeah he's right. The 7a DOES have 2 cams... Oct 3, 2004 - 7:49 PM
playr158 couldn't we figure out a way to drive them sep... Oct 3, 2004 - 7:55 PM
Delta_Phoenix You'll have to ask Kwanza about that one. All ... Oct 3, 2004 - 8:13 PM
shadycrew31 dont those cams are so small in the 7a, it makes y... Oct 3, 2004 - 9:38 PM![]() ![]() |
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