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post Oct 20, 2004 - 9:44 PM
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um...is it possible to make a celica twin turbo..by useing the stock twin turbo off of a supra..........with custom made header...and a built block 7afe .....with port and polish head..and..blah blah blah.!!!.the rest is secret for me..hahah!!!! if not..possilbe..could it been done.the other way around..go get some junk yard turbo.I MEAN SOME SMALL TURBO to make enough rooms for it..and make twin on the celica..with custom header....cauz...anything with $$$$$$$$ is possible right.............that is what i heard???? bowdown.gif
 
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post Oct 25, 2004 - 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Consynx @ Oct 25, 2004 - 12:05 PM)
answer my Q...i dont even remember what this topic was about but i wanna know how TT's work, and the dif kinds tongue.gif

Here read this on a turbo forum:

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actually, twins dont reduce turbo lag. also there are 2 types of twin turbos, REAL twin turbos, and SEQUENTIAL twin turbos.

the "real" twin turbos, aka full-time twin turbos, is that both turbos are spooled up at the same time. the advantage of this is that both turbos will be giving u power all the time. the disadvantage is that if u know that turbos work on exhaust gases, well, instead of having the pressure of all the exhaust gases powering just one turbo, u have to use half and half, so spool time aint that great.

sequential twin turbos work differently. mostly, its one small turbo and one bigger turbo working. the key difference is that the smaller turbo will be the one doing all the work at a certain RPM level, and then the bigger one kicks in. ill sure the MK4 Supra as an example. all the way up until 3,000RPM, the small turbo will be the only one giving the car power, and then once 3,000rpms has been reached, the big turbo will kick in cuz the exhaust gas pressure is strong enough to spool it up fast, so in other words, the small turbo spools up the bigger turbo. the disadvantage is that, well, u dont have both turbos working full time, so one of them is just dead weight when they are not operational.


this is where single turbo set ups come in. while a single turbo will have the initial turbo lag of a full-time twin turbo (though the smaller the turbo is, the less lag it will have, get a really small one and u will barely notice the lag). turbos are efficient as long as they can work correctly with the torque band of the car. this means, that it can keep giving nice boost all the way up to the peak torque of the car. remember, torque is turning force (by definition). a single turbo will always be operational, and if u have the money, u can even get a lightweight one to save even more on weight. one bigger decent turbo can outlast 2 smaller ones due to the rotational speeds of the turbine blades (the bigger they are, the less rpms they have to go about in order to create the same amount of power).

full-time twin turbo cars are just the answer to big single turbos, but they are of no advantage just cuz they pretty much require the same force to spool up as just one big turbo, but they have more weight on them so no big deal (double the equipment is needed to run double the crap). then as for sequentials, well, just read the dead weight part above. single turbos dont have any dead weight since they are always in use.

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- st_celica_killer   CELICA TWINTURBO.....   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:44 PM
- - Digndoug   its possible but not worth it, supras have twin be...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:46 PM
- - playr158   you need two intake manifolds two seperate header...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:49 PM
- - Doge   the 7a would only have enough exhaust volume to pr...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:53 PM
- - Jaws4God   so if you did, what kinda hp gain would you get? ...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:53 PM
- - Doge   also.. the TT supra turbo setup is sequential..mea...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:54 PM
- - creis   anything is posible, but not worth the money at al...   Oct 20, 2004 - 9:58 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (creis @ Oct 20, 2004 - 10:58 PM) anything i...   Oct 20, 2004 - 10:00 PM
- - Doge   you would have no top end... even though they resp...   Oct 20, 2004 - 10:02 PM
- - st_celica_killer   so would it be better off with 2 smaller turbo the...   Oct 20, 2004 - 10:04 PM
- - creis   i dont think that it would make 10 psi, i think th...   Oct 20, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - Justin   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Oct 21, 2004 - 2:46 AM) its poss...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:08 AM
- - shadycrew31   QUOTE (Justin @ Oct 20, 2004 - 11:08 PM) QUOT...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:38 AM
- - st_celica_killer   so what is the answer is it going to work or not. ...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:40 AM
- - st_celica_killer   OR IS IT ..BETTER OFF WITH A CUSTOM TWIN TURBO..US...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:44 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (st_celica_killer @ Oct 20, 2004 - 11:44 PM)...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:48 AM
- - Justin   QUOTE (st_celica_killer @ Oct 21, 2004 - 6:40 AM) ...   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:49 AM
- - shadycrew31   i hope that was a joke lol....   Oct 21, 2004 - 1:53 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (st_celica_killer @ Oct 20, 2004 - 11:40 PM)...   Oct 21, 2004 - 5:48 AM
- - Supersprynt   Why would you want a V4? Do you have a motorcycle?...   Oct 21, 2004 - 7:18 AM
- - orvillescelica   QUOTE (creis @ Oct 20, 2004 - 8:07 PM) i dont thin...   Oct 21, 2004 - 8:16 AM
- - turboinduction   4 types of engine: V-Formation (V) Inline (I) W-F...   Oct 21, 2004 - 8:40 AM
- - Mike   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Oct 20, 2004 - 7:46 PM) its poss...   Oct 21, 2004 - 8:47 AM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Mike @ Oct 21, 2004 - 8:47 AM) QUOTE (...   Oct 21, 2004 - 9:21 AM
- - Consynx   does it really have to open to the big turbo, or i...   Oct 21, 2004 - 11:47 AM
- - ST-204   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Oct 21, 2004 - 2:46 AM) its poss...   Oct 21, 2004 - 12:39 PM
- - shid   This is almost the dumbest topic ever. It's si...   Oct 21, 2004 - 12:50 PM
- - turboinduction   congrats shid on the master of the 5th Hey, you a...   Oct 21, 2004 - 12:55 PM
- - shid   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Oct 21, 2004 - 5:55 PM) co...   Oct 21, 2004 - 12:56 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (shid @ Oct 21, 2004 - 12:56 PM) QUOTE (turb...   Oct 21, 2004 - 2:35 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (Justin @ Oct 21, 2004 - 2:08 AM) QUOTE (Dig...   Oct 21, 2004 - 2:40 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Oct 21, 2004 - 1:40 PM) 4 ...   Oct 21, 2004 - 2:55 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 21, 2004 - 2:40 PM) Why d...   Oct 21, 2004 - 2:59 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Oct 21, 2004 - 2:55 PM) QUOTE (t...   Oct 21, 2004 - 3:01 PM
- - SlowCelica94   QUOTE (shid @ Oct 21, 2004 - 5:50 PM) This is almo...   Oct 21, 2004 - 3:36 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   The Supra is an inline 6, not a V6. *reads thread...   Oct 21, 2004 - 11:44 PM
- - shid   QUOTE (SlowCelica94 @ Oct 21, 2004 - 8:36 PM) QUOT...   Oct 21, 2004 - 11:52 PM
- - Anub1s   Can't we all just be friends?!   Oct 22, 2004 - 1:15 AM
- - creis   I think we all know the supra is an inline 6 not a...   Oct 22, 2004 - 5:21 AM
- - jayi12-15psi   can we, from now on ignore people like this? I...   Oct 22, 2004 - 8:38 AM
- - turboinduction   I LOVE CAPS!   Oct 22, 2004 - 8:53 AM
- - Consynx   QUOTE (Consynx @ Oct 21, 2004 - 9:47 AM) does it r...   Oct 22, 2004 - 12:46 PM
- - st202gt   a while back and i found a page about twin turbo k...   Oct 22, 2004 - 1:00 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Consynx @ Oct 22, 2004 - 12:46 PM) QUOTE (C...   Oct 22, 2004 - 1:02 PM
- - Mike431635   Small turbo on a stock 2JZ-GTE is a CT20 (not rela...   Oct 22, 2004 - 4:35 PM
- - Consynx   if Boxsters are what subaru uses, def not inline f...   Oct 23, 2004 - 3:17 PM
- - recneps   boxster engine, flat engines are defintly not a in...   Oct 23, 2004 - 4:39 PM
- - OOBE   This guy posts the most stupid threads. I can...   Oct 24, 2004 - 11:06 PM
- - shadycrew31   QUOTE (OOBE @ Oct 24, 2004 - 9:06 PM) This guy pos...   Oct 25, 2004 - 12:39 AM
- - Kwanza26   Look what happens when you get a bunch of people t...   Oct 25, 2004 - 12:58 AM
- - FallenHero   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Oct 24, 2004 - 10:58 PM) Look wh...   Oct 25, 2004 - 1:02 AM
- - doGGy   AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! are you still a...   Oct 25, 2004 - 5:57 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (turboinduction @ Oct 22, 2004 - 6:53 AM) I ...   Oct 25, 2004 - 5:58 AM
- - Consynx   ok...even though no1 tried to answer my question, ...   Oct 25, 2004 - 9:30 AM
- - shid   For the love of god, let this topic die   Oct 25, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - Consynx   answer my Q...i dont even remember what this topic...   Oct 25, 2004 - 12:05 PM
- - turboinduction   QUOTE (Consynx @ Oct 25, 2004 - 12:05 PM) answer m...   Oct 25, 2004 - 12:22 PM
- - shid   No. Ok, fine TTs work any way your mind can imag...   Oct 25, 2004 - 12:24 PM
- - Consynx   lol ok, i'll let it die now...knowing that the...   Oct 25, 2004 - 3:14 PM


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