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> got the 5SFTE put on a DYNO, heres the results. actual number finally
post Nov 6, 2004 - 3:06 PM
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i figure 220 ish chp and 227ctq. how about you?
13psi. 93 octane gas no additives.
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im happy with it for now. once i get cams ill be good. biggrin.gif

ps woot. 4 little boxes now

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post Nov 8, 2004 - 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 9, 2004 - 3:13 AM)
um...15psi is the limit of the stock ct26 turbo, not the motor.

lookup JekylandHyde on mr2oc.com...he is running 23psi on an unopened motor with 200,000 miles on it.

my final point: dont knock the 3sgte, its a great motor and well worth the upgrade.

on that note, i give up. people can argue this back and forth forever.

I NEVER knocked the motor man. Go back and read what I wrote if that's the impression you got. It's a matter of opinion when it comes to max boost on stock internals. Indeed the turbo maxes out at 15 psi (not really max... but is really inefficient after that)... From my research, a large populous agrees that 15 psi is where the stock 3SGTE pistons start having problems regardless of turbos. That doesn't mean it can't live there... it just means the level of tuning required to have the engine run with that level of boost is very high and the room for mistakes is VERY low. As for the dude running 23psi on the stock block... I'll assure you, he's either BS'ing, or he's run 23 psi for a few drag runs and/or dyno runs. I'll gurrantee that a 3SGTE is not gonna live reliably at 23 psi on the stock block. The 3SGTE does not have stock forged pistons (i think the rods may be)... and a lot of forged set-ups are designed for 20+ psi. 20 psi of boost is a whole lot... For example... my cousin has a buddy who built a turbo B18B Integra. They guy did the whole works with forged internals, fuel mods, programmable ECU, etc... and he's blown up the motor 2 times trying to reach 20 psi.

Also consider... how many people that have swapped in a 3SGTE in the Celica community have really built their motors? Have you? Maybe some people are content with 8-10 psi with the original engine (7AFE/5SFE)... It's much less of a headache than a swap... regardless of how much better that swap is. No body is denying that. The 3SGTE is a great motor and has a ton of build potential... that doesn't mean a 5SFTE is not...


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- x_itchy_b_x   got the 5SFTE put on a DYNO   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:06 PM
- - Digndoug   DAMN, thats pretty freaking nice.. now you just ne...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:11 PM
- - funnyboy117   Good job man, you're ahead of my stock ST by l...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:12 PM
- - importceli   damn dude mad props, how much did your grand total...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:36 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (importceli @ Nov 6, 2004 - 4:36 PM) damn du...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:40 PM
- - importceli   so 3grand with internals and install? could i get ...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:53 PM
- - shid   Nice Itchy; Nice Can't wait to put down that ...   Nov 6, 2004 - 4:30 PM
- - lagos   wow, nice numbers. thats about what the swap puts ...   Nov 6, 2004 - 5:00 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 6, 2004 - 6:00 PM) wow, nice nu...   Nov 6, 2004 - 9:26 PM
- - orvillescelica   wow!! nice job! much more than i expec...   Nov 6, 2004 - 9:35 PM
- - Consynx   actually it should be about the same until some he...   Nov 6, 2004 - 10:20 PM
- - Hanyo   run the quarter mile.. all this horsepower numbe...   Nov 6, 2004 - 11:27 PM
- - celicaspeed   Thats awsome!You want to go fast drop weight a...   Nov 6, 2004 - 11:41 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (celicaspeed @ Nov 7, 2004 - 12:41 AM) Thats...   Nov 7, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - Fox-N-It2   Lemme guess stock 5s management with bigger inject...   Nov 7, 2004 - 12:28 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (Fox-N-It2 @ Nov 7, 2004 - 1:...   Nov 7, 2004 - 1:09 AM
- - celicarocker   m00oo00ttT!!! badass john!!...   Nov 7, 2004 - 1:22 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE wow, nice numbers. thats about what the swap...   Nov 7, 2004 - 1:23 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Nov 7, 2004 - 4:27 AM) run the...   Nov 7, 2004 - 2:17 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (raven_101 @ Nov 7, 2004 - 3:17 AM) QUOTE (H...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:29 AM
- - turboinduction   itchy b is my hero - great job 5S pride m00t m00t...   Nov 7, 2004 - 10:38 AM
- - gtfc115   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 7, 2004 - 6:23 AM) QUOTE wo...   Nov 7, 2004 - 10:40 AM
- - Digndoug   It dosnt look like he built it up at all.. he just...   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:08 AM
- - lagos   here is the thing...the 5sfe is a higher compressi...   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:17 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   my 5sfte isnt built at all. ur right. once it is s...   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:27 AM
- - Consynx   he's passing the time till he can swap, with w...   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:44 AM
- - drdos   pretty decent number's.   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:44 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE here is the thing...the 5sfe is a higher com...   Nov 7, 2004 - 3:12 PM
- - erics1one   Nice numbers indeed. The 13psi on a stock setup d...   Nov 7, 2004 - 3:41 PM
- - lagos   NEVERSTOP, what happened to your swap, why dont y...   Nov 7, 2004 - 5:15 PM
- - FallenHero   wow, that's really great man. I am actually s...   Nov 7, 2004 - 5:55 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE NEVERSTOP, what happened to your swap, why d...   Nov 7, 2004 - 6:24 PM
- - Doge   QUOTE wow man.. where have you been the last two ...   Nov 7, 2004 - 7:00 PM
- - Consynx   9.5:1 i thought it was 10.5:1 once again, i gues...   Nov 7, 2004 - 7:25 PM
- - celicaspeed   If you get a piggy back it will do alot more than ...   Nov 7, 2004 - 8:44 PM
- - Kwanza26   Good stuff. Excellent numbers... what I'd exp...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:10 PM
- - turboinduction   I just read Itchy's last post on the first pag...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:24 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   u guys i have plans for the 5sfte. i want to push ...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:29 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Nov 8, 2004 - 2:29 AM) u guys...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:32 PM
- - spunky393   This is muscle car knowledge coming out, try to fi...   Nov 7, 2004 - 9:58 PM
- - lagos   my theory is this....if slaping on a turbo, retar...   Nov 7, 2004 - 11:02 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE my theory is this....if slaping on a turbo, ...   Nov 8, 2004 - 3:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE and theres a little more than just slappin o...   Nov 8, 2004 - 8:34 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   but isnt the 3sge is the same as a 3sgte right?? w...   Nov 8, 2004 - 10:56 AM
- - nik   its good to see that the guys putting on turbos an...   Nov 8, 2004 - 11:57 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Nov 8, 2004 - 3:56 PM) but is...   Nov 8, 2004 - 12:01 PM
- - Consynx   lol, Neverstop...i liked the comment this is a li...   Nov 8, 2004 - 1:12 PM
- - nik   i wish they just would have imported the GT4   Nov 8, 2004 - 1:29 PM
- - spunky393   nice add nik Also, you're saying life and dea...   Nov 8, 2004 - 7:14 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (spunky393 @ Nov 9, 2004 - 12:14 AM) nice ad...   Nov 8, 2004 - 7:29 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Nov 8, 2004 - 5:29 PM) The 3SGTE...   Nov 8, 2004 - 7:40 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 9, 2004 - 12:40 AM) QUOTE (Kwan...   Nov 8, 2004 - 9:17 PM
- - lagos   um...15psi is the limit of the stock ct26 turbo, n...   Nov 8, 2004 - 10:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 9, 2004 - 3:13 AM) um...15psi i...   Nov 8, 2004 - 10:33 PM
- - lagos   http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/HydeMods.htm Hyde...   Nov 8, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - Consynx   since this is running out what is the max output o...   Nov 8, 2004 - 11:12 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE QUOTE  and theres a little more than j...   Nov 8, 2004 - 11:46 PM
- - lagos   hmm... i never said my car was one of a kind or an...   Nov 9, 2004 - 12:25 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE hmm... i never said my car was one of a kind...   Nov 9, 2004 - 12:58 AM
- - Kwanza26   You guys are arguing based on opinion... Lagos......   Nov 9, 2004 - 1:50 AM
- - Supersprynt   Just to interrupt on your buddy Josh, Kwanza. He...   Nov 9, 2004 - 8:31 AM
- - spunky393   I can't remember who said that they use to sol...   Nov 9, 2004 - 8:54 AM
- - Supersprynt   Uh...3SGTE isnt a belief or idea you can believe i...   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:21 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Nov 9, 2004 - 8:21 AM) U...   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:24 AM
- - Supersprynt   i dont think any sort of modification will have th...   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:51 AM
- - Nemises   thought some of youmight like this if you havent s...   Nov 9, 2004 - 12:59 PM
- - Nemises   gotta read this is for the 5sfe Initial dyno test...   Nov 9, 2004 - 1:04 PM
- - FallenHero   I wonder if it has an air conditioner, or interior...   Nov 9, 2004 - 1:50 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Nov 9, 2004 - 2:50 PM) I wonde...   Nov 9, 2004 - 2:07 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   QUOTE since you decided to go on a presonal attack...   Nov 9, 2004 - 2:18 PM
- - SlowCelica94   I've lost a lot of respect for you NEVERSTOP. ...   Nov 9, 2004 - 3:29 PM
- - Yota   I don't understand how NEVERSTOP made an ass o...   Nov 9, 2004 - 4:42 PM
- - nik   everyone is slingen mud now.   Nov 9, 2004 - 5:10 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   im sorry..... i jsut posted up some numbers yes t...   Nov 9, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I've lost a lot of respect for you NEVER...   Nov 9, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - SlowCelica94   It's not that you replied, thats fine, it...   Nov 9, 2004 - 7:36 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   i wanan swap in a supra engine... that will pwn bo...   Nov 9, 2004 - 9:26 PM
- - spunky393   hold on apes, what kinda race   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:41 PM
- - lagos   NEVERSTOP, everyone has a different way of looking...   Nov 9, 2004 - 11:38 PM
- - celicaspeed   I think the 5sfe is a great start but if your like...   Nov 10, 2004 - 12:54 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE you do realize that his motor probably wont ...   Nov 10, 2004 - 1:17 AM
- - SlowCelica94   So the arugment is sorta like this. 3s is better. ...   Nov 10, 2004 - 2:01 AM
|- - ST204no2   QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Nov 10, 2004 - 2:01 AM)S...   Nov 14, 2004 - 3:07 AM
- - SlowCelica94   Also, as far as what Lagos has brough to this site...   Nov 10, 2004 - 2:06 AM
- - celicarocker   meh.... johns addicted to speed anyway... i give i...   Nov 10, 2004 - 9:26 AM
- - ummmx2   well from what i hear..you can get the basic basic...   Nov 10, 2004 - 12:13 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE So the arugment is sorta like this. 3s is be...   Nov 10, 2004 - 2:40 PM
- - lagos   185 clip - 2000-2500 - yep thats correct MRT2 Tra...   Nov 10, 2004 - 8:12 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   come on though if we didnt base things on price we...   Nov 10, 2004 - 9:23 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE come on though if we didnt base things on pr...   Nov 10, 2004 - 9:29 PM
- - t-spoon   Just FYI, the 3sgte can in fact handle more than 1...   Nov 11, 2004 - 2:00 AM
- - OOBE   Dude, back home (Puero Rico), there's more peo...   Nov 11, 2004 - 11:59 AM
- - celicarocker   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Nov 10, 2004 - 10:23 PM) come...   Nov 11, 2004 - 12:58 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (SlowCelica94 @ Nov 10, 2004 - 2:06 AM) supe...   Nov 11, 2004 - 1:14 PM
- - CheesyLobster   Get a 3sgte and bore it. There you got a engine th...   Nov 14, 2004 - 4:27 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   the idea is to do sumthing new and creative though...   Nov 14, 2004 - 11:58 AM
- - chucho   Good job, hope it keeps going strong for ya I ...   Nov 14, 2004 - 3:48 PM
- - Doge   QUOTEGet a 3sgte and bore it. There you got a engi...   Nov 14, 2004 - 10:30 PM
|- - ST204no2   QUOTE(Doge @ Nov 14, 2004 - 10:30 PM)QUOTEGet...   Nov 15, 2004 - 5:09 AM
- - Punch   thats a good idea   Dec 9, 2004 - 12:24 AM
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