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post Nov 19, 2004 - 5:30 PM
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I need some places to consider traveling to and also some reasons -such as places to see and go

please keep them within the US as my passport expires this spring and im not looking to travel with anyone at this moment and so i dont really wanna leave the country by myself


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post Nov 21, 2004 - 9:12 PM
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QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 21, 2004 - 12:10 PM)

closest thing you come to anti grav, theres some misconceptions about airships, your gas in your tank is more dangerous then the hydrogen in an airship.

This is one of the few discarded great inventions that was never fully developed, I think the last 2 centuries is littered with interesting technologies.  But Id have to put Air ships and Nuclear power at the top of the list of technologies with the largest potential, but never pursued or fully developed.

Imagine where we would be today if we would have fully pursued nuclear fission technologies, learning to safely harness fission in every day applications such as cars, jets.  really every fuel/energy source has its hazard, JP8 fuel for planes, the most toxic stuff you can think of, probably just as bad as anything radioctive if it containinates an area.

And Airships... I can only imagine we probably have floating way stations or mini cities in the air, or Air cargo haulers instead of ocean freight.  So can haul so much more stuff with airships then airplanes and faster then ocean freighters or trains.  It would be awesome.
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I believe that airships did get their fair share, but was not found to be cost effective. It is much easier to create lift using a wing and fluid forces than with bouyancy. The size airship needed to lift a certian mass is vastly greater than the size of wing needed to lift the same craft. The lightest gas available, hydrogen, was used and still massive hangers had to be constructed to house them. Yes, gasoline is much more volitile than hydrogen. But the lower heating value of gasoline is enomous compared to its size, plus its really easy to store. Hydrogen is not as energetic or as easy to store compressed. And without compression, it just takes up a lot of space.

The size airship required to lift the same amount of cargo as an ocean tanker would probably have to be a few miles in diameter. And the size bouyant mass needed to lift a small city?? It would be the size of a small state! My guess would be probably be MA. And even then, how you are you going to get plumping? sewage? keep it from drifting arond? Also, airships are very susceptible to weather conditions. The British gave up on thiers because too many were crashing on thier way to or from India.


QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 2:15 PM)
QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Nov 21, 2004 - 4:14 PM)
Fission is ok, but fusion is better becasue it doesn't necessarily involve any harmful radiation or waste. wink.gif

Dispite energy costs, the energy output from a fusion reactor would be far greater. Theres a team in California I believe working on a fusion reactor, using a donut shaped chamber with plasma flowing in the centre contained by a electromegnetic field.
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where do people get these jobs? honestly?
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My department of Aeronautics and Astronautics here at the University of Washington are one of the leaders in plasma and fusion research. There is a dual toridical plasma reactor in the lab above mine which studies the the helicity of plasma injected into a Tokamak fusion reactor. Also there is a 'spin-off' lab in Redmond which does a lot more than the stuff here on campus. The stuff there is really cool! The stuff here on campus has to be restricted from super harmful or radioactive materials, they dont.

If you want a job like that, get a MS or PhD in physics, Aerspace Engineering, or nuclear engineering with a focus on plasmas. Im sure the job offers will pour in after that.

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post Nov 21, 2004 - 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Nov 21, 2004 - 7:12 PM)
QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 21, 2004 - 12:10 PM)

closest thing you come to anti grav, theres some misconceptions about airships, your gas in your tank is more dangerous then the hydrogen in an airship.

This is one of the few discarded great inventions that was never fully developed, I think the last 2 centuries is littered with interesting technologies.  But Id have to put Air ships and Nuclear power at the top of the list of technologies with the largest potential, but never pursued or fully developed.

Imagine where we would be today if we would have fully pursued nuclear fission technologies, learning to safely harness fission in every day applications such as cars, jets.  really every fuel/energy source has its hazard, JP8 fuel for planes, the most toxic stuff you can think of, probably just as bad as anything radioctive if it containinates an area.

And Airships... I can only imagine we probably have floating way stations or mini cities in the air, or Air cargo haulers instead of ocean freight.  So can haul so much more stuff with airships then airplanes and faster then ocean freighters or trains.  It would be awesome.
[right][snapback]209801[/snapback][/right]


I believe that airships did get their fair share, but was not found to be cost effective. It is much easier to create lift using a wing and fluid forces than with bouyancy. The size airship needed to lift a certian mass is vastly greater than the size of wing needed to lift the same craft. The lightest gas available, hydrogen, was used and still massive hangers had to be constructed to house them. Yes, gasoline is much more volitile than hydrogen. But the lower heating value of gasoline is enomous compared to its size, plus its really easy to store. Hydrogen is not as energetic or as easy to store compressed. And without compression, it just takes up a lot of space.

The size airship required to lift the same amount of cargo as an ocean tanker would probably have to be a few miles in diameter. And the size bouyant mass needed to lift a small city?? It would be the size of a small state! My guess would be probably be MA. And even then, how you are you going to get plumping? sewage? keep it from drifting arond? Also, airships are very susceptible to weather conditions. The British gave up on thiers because too many were crashing on thier way to or from India.


QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 2:15 PM)
QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Nov 21, 2004 - 4:14 PM)
Fission is ok, but fusion is better becasue it doesn't necessarily involve any harmful radiation or waste. wink.gif

Dispite energy costs, the energy output from a fusion reactor would be far greater. Theres a team in California I believe working on a fusion reactor, using a donut shaped chamber with plasma flowing in the centre contained by a electromegnetic field.
[right][snapback]209854[/snapback][/right]


where do people get these jobs? honestly?
[right][snapback]209855[/snapback][/right]


My department of Aeronautics and Astronautics here at the University of Washington are one of the leaders in plasma and fusion research. There is a dual toridical plasma reactor in the lab above mine which studies the the helicity of plasma injected into a Tokamak fusion reactor. Also there is a 'spin-off' lab in Redmond which does a lot more than the stuff here on campus. The stuff there is really cool! The stuff here on campus has to be restricted from super harmful or radioactive materials, they dont.

If you want a job like that, get a MS or PhD in physics, Aerspace Engineering, or nuclear engineering with a focus on plasmas. Im sure the job offers will pour in after that.
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I hardly ever see hard science jobs posted. I've talked with lots of engineers in the 90s who ended up being computer dweebs because they couldnt find jobs.

On Airships, their are various hybrids, and new designs that have been in the works forever, I'm not sure on all the technologies, but there are the conventional 2 mile long airships to lift cargo, hybrid wing for additional lift and hydro/hel for lift, and speculation on more ways of generating more lift power.

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- BlackCelicaGT94   I have this urge to travel   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:30 PM
- - orvillescelica   what kind of things do you like? History? Grand mo...   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:41 PM
- - ghostdog   anywhere outside the US. get your passport renewed   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:49 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   went to germany and loved it but its a bit too exp...   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:53 PM
- - Kamakiri   If you've never been to AZ there's tons of...   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:56 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   im gonig there in feb to see an ex actually   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:59 PM
- - trdevelopment   ^hell yeh man the wether is buetiful right now in ...   Nov 19, 2004 - 6:00 PM
- - Uppitycracker   I think anywhere in Europe or Asia is definately c...   Nov 19, 2004 - 7:03 PM
- - coustoe   whats a succesful career? go to japan, all the ja...   Nov 19, 2004 - 7:42 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 19, 2004 - 5:42 PM)whats ...   Nov 19, 2004 - 9:04 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Nov 19, 2004 - 10:04 PM...   Nov 19, 2004 - 9:08 PM
|- - celicarocker   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Nov 19, 2004 - 10:04 PM...   Nov 20, 2004 - 4:54 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(celicarocker @ Nov 20, 2004 - 2:54 PM)Q...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:50 AM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   well i know whatim gonna do ---MARRY RICH   Nov 19, 2004 - 9:19 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Nov 19, 2004 - 7:19 P...   Nov 19, 2004 - 10:21 PM
- - shadycrew31   go to new york, miami, la then go home!   Nov 19, 2004 - 9:30 PM
- - The__J__Factor   Australia, Its awesome, especialy on the Gold Coas...   Nov 19, 2004 - 11:09 PM
- - creis   History lesson: The Spruce Goose! was probibly...   Nov 20, 2004 - 6:08 AM
- - orvillescelica   QUOTE(creis @ Nov 20, 2004 - 3:08 AM)History ...   Nov 20, 2004 - 6:34 AM
- - shadycrew31   history lesson who cares about the spuce goose. so...   Nov 21, 2004 - 6:54 AM
- - orvillescelica   QUOTE(shadycrew31 @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:54 AM)hi...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:30 AM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Nov 21, 2004 - 5:30 AM...   Nov 21, 2004 - 11:26 AM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   litre bags?? ur milk comes in bags? hmm mine comes...   Nov 21, 2004 - 11:09 AM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Nov 21, 2004 - 9:09 A...   Nov 21, 2004 - 4:58 PM
- - Digndoug   You could come to Annapolis, Maryland, its near D....   Nov 21, 2004 - 11:50 AM
- - orvillescelica   [/quote] air ships are better than airplanes. [sn...   Nov 21, 2004 - 11:52 AM
|- - coustoe   air ships are better than airplanes. [snapback]2...   Nov 21, 2004 - 3:10 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 21, 2004 - 1:10 PM) Imag...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:14 PM
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||- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:15 PM)QUOTE(...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:20 PM
|- - ghostdog   assuming you're talking about fusion its still...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:15 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:15 PM)assu...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:22 PM
- - mr_dude   Someone should make dirigable out of liquid helium...   Nov 21, 2004 - 2:42 PM
- - Consynx   lol, i was waiting for this kind of response i li...   Nov 21, 2004 - 2:54 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(Consynx @ Nov 21, 2004 - 12:54 PM)lol, ...   Nov 21, 2004 - 3:13 PM
- - Benevolence   Go to Rosarito... it maybe in mexico but you don...   Nov 21, 2004 - 3:19 PM
- - Andason   whats a litre? a LITER.   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:14 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:14 PM)whats ...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:16 PM
- - Andason   litre = french version of liter do you speak frenc...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:33 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:33 PM)litre ...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:37 PM
|- - Andason   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Nov 21, 2004 - 4:37 PM)...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:40 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(Andason @ Nov 21, 2004 - 6:40 PM)and am...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:42 PM
||- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:42 PM)QUOT...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:44 PM
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|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Nov 21, 2004 - 3:36 PM)QUOT...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:38 PM
- - Andason   haha m00t for wisconsin. we have half of our stuff...   Nov 21, 2004 - 5:58 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   QUOTE(Consynx @ Nov 21, 2004 - 12:54 PM)lol, ...   Nov 21, 2004 - 6:03 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Nov 21, 2004 - 4:03 P...   Nov 21, 2004 - 6:18 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 21, 2004 - 4:18 PM)QUOTE(...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:27 PM
- - carb0n_f1b3r   you could always go to japan an get a job there tu...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:27 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(carb0n_f1b3r @ Nov 21, 2004 - 8:27 PM)y...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:43 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Nov 21, 2004 - 5:43 PM)QUOT...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:47 PM
|- - Andason   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Nov 21, 2004 - 6:43 PM)QUOT...   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:15 PM
- - Consynx   supermodel? psh, try 7 i'd like to have somet...   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:07 PM
- - chucho   you'd probably enjoy New Orleans during Mardi ...   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:29 PM
- - orvillescelica   QUOTE(coustoe @ Nov 21, 2004 - 12:10 PM) clos...   Nov 21, 2004 - 9:12 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Nov 21, 2004 - 7:12 PM...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:23 PM
- - The__J__Factor   LITER, in Australia its litre, how do u guys prono...   Nov 21, 2004 - 9:44 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(The__J__Factor @ Nov 21, 2004 - 7:44 PM...   Nov 21, 2004 - 9:57 PM
- - Andason   out of pure curiousity.... why does everyone on he...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:29 PM
- - carb0n_f1b3r   well im down to skip over to jap that is unless yo...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:37 PM
- - Digndoug   Im with ya andason, I know nothing, an I also wann...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:42 PM
- - ghostdog   yeah I'm kind of thinking of moving.. we'l...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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- - Jonathan   Well Im an avid traveler Get a Credit card from d...   Nov 22, 2004 - 12:07 PM
- - Consynx   im still going to japan... muahahahaha muahahahaha...   Nov 22, 2004 - 12:48 PM


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